Everyone has 2 surnames in Spain. It should be father’s first surname + mother’s first surname.
Guirigalego on
What’s completely nuts is that I as a dual UK-Spanish citizen, am in the process of applying for a passport for one of my children and he has to have both his existing surname (mine) and his mother’s English maiden surname which she hasn’t used in 20 years. His grandparents find it very amusing.
Old_Office_3823 on
So in Spain or Portugal, if you get a child, which of your two surnames will it get?
csquared_yt on
It’s funny that growing up in the UK with portuguese parents because for the longest time I thought everyone did what they do in portugal with names, but I guess not
Cafx2 on
Blue should be Name + FATHER’S Surname?
stabs_rittmeister on
In official documents in Eastern Slavic countries it’s usually surname, then first name, then patronymic.
gigsoll on
In Ukraine we mostly use the Surname Name Father’s name, but when something more special, like when I was publishing a research paper for university Name Father’s name Surname was used and it was very unusual
New_Employer_7679 on
Bavaria should be switched, just like Hungary’s, lol
Quiet-Luck on
I work a lot with French people. It seems they always write the family name in capitals. Is that right?
Winslow_99 on
I may be biased but I find the Spanish and Portuguese ones the only valid and non sexist options
mdmeaux on
UK is different for members of the secret service: they use Last Name + First Name + Last Name
Several-Zombies6547 on
In Greece the father’s name is only on some official documents, no one uses it irl. It’s not even in the passport and the ID includes both parents‘ names in the back side.
fireKido on
in italy in some context it can be surname + first name, it really depends
Usually any formal data entry context, or official and bureaucratic documents
In everiday life, this is accurate, it’s frits name + last name
Stylianius1 on
In Portugal, the civil registry code of 1932 was the first to define that people could only have up to 3 surnames and that the last one should always be one of the father’s. (The 4 surname limit was imposed later, at least since 1978)
Stuxnet101 on
Iceland also does mothers first name for women, no?
samostrout on
The blue part is basically First Name + Father’s Surname
A_Perez2 on
In Spain, everyone has two last names (the father’s last name + the mother’s last name).
I remember more than one problem on official websites that required two last names, but many foreigners don’t have two last names, although they do have two first names (which is normal in Spain, but not everywhere).
So people who needed to fill out the form would put their middle name as their first surname and their surnames as their second surname… and what a mess that caused in town halls, airports, etc.!
In other words:
Real name: John D. Smith
On the form:
First name: John
First surname: David
Second surname: Smith
And vice versa!
I know of a case of a Spaniard who had to put both his surnames because otherwise they told him it didn’t match his ID, and he had bureaucratic problems. But on the English website, he could only put his first name and surname, so he had to put both his surnames together, separated by a hyphen.
Real name: Juan Pérez Martínez
On the form:
First name: Juan
Last name: Pérez-Martínez
PiberiusOrphan on
Its patronymic for iceland and green countries, not fathers name
Rhosddu on
A minority in Scotland and Wales use a patronymic system broadly similar to the Icelandic model. It began to be less common following legislation by the Westminster Government in the 1830s to bring those countries in line with English naming conventions, but has now been revived.
Cold_P_North on
Greek here. No, it’s not.
d_Art_z on
In Ukraine it’s actually Surname, First name, Patronymic name
V_es on
It’s patronymic not “father’s name” for east slavic countries.
Microgolfoven_69 on
I wonder how middle names work in other countries? In Limbourg the order of the full name is traditionally First name + Second name chosen by parents + (feminised for a girl) name of the godfather + (masculinsed for a boy) name of the godmother + Last name
ataltosutcaja on
Oh boy, in Hungarian if you get married according to old law, it gets much more complicated than this…
Oberndorferin on
In Germany you often enough have it family name, first name
XenophonSoulis on
Greece should be blue, just like it should be on the same picture posted again yesterday.
ScotchPleb on
Western Isles of Scotland do the same as Iceland, though the map is of course correct that this is not the usual way in either Scotland or the UK and is not official.
bitchy_muffin on
in romania, our „normal“ one is actually surname (commonly the father’s) + name
and when applying to schools and stuff you do surname + father’s name initial(s) + name
balbuljata on
In Malta it’s the same as in Hungary, but it’s always left out of these maps.
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Everyone has 2 surnames in Spain. It should be father’s first surname + mother’s first surname.
What’s completely nuts is that I as a dual UK-Spanish citizen, am in the process of applying for a passport for one of my children and he has to have both his existing surname (mine) and his mother’s English maiden surname which she hasn’t used in 20 years. His grandparents find it very amusing.
So in Spain or Portugal, if you get a child, which of your two surnames will it get?
It’s funny that growing up in the UK with portuguese parents because for the longest time I thought everyone did what they do in portugal with names, but I guess not
Blue should be Name + FATHER’S Surname?
In official documents in Eastern Slavic countries it’s usually surname, then first name, then patronymic.
In Ukraine we mostly use the Surname Name Father’s name, but when something more special, like when I was publishing a research paper for university Name Father’s name Surname was used and it was very unusual
Bavaria should be switched, just like Hungary’s, lol
I work a lot with French people. It seems they always write the family name in capitals. Is that right?
I may be biased but I find the Spanish and Portuguese ones the only valid and non sexist options
UK is different for members of the secret service: they use Last Name + First Name + Last Name
In Greece the father’s name is only on some official documents, no one uses it irl. It’s not even in the passport and the ID includes both parents‘ names in the back side.
in italy in some context it can be surname + first name, it really depends
Usually any formal data entry context, or official and bureaucratic documents
In everiday life, this is accurate, it’s frits name + last name
In Portugal, the civil registry code of 1932 was the first to define that people could only have up to 3 surnames and that the last one should always be one of the father’s. (The 4 surname limit was imposed later, at least since 1978)
Iceland also does mothers first name for women, no?
The blue part is basically First Name + Father’s Surname
In Spain, everyone has two last names (the father’s last name + the mother’s last name).
I remember more than one problem on official websites that required two last names, but many foreigners don’t have two last names, although they do have two first names (which is normal in Spain, but not everywhere).
So people who needed to fill out the form would put their middle name as their first surname and their surnames as their second surname… and what a mess that caused in town halls, airports, etc.!
In other words:
Real name: John D. Smith
On the form:
First name: John
First surname: David
Second surname: Smith
And vice versa!
I know of a case of a Spaniard who had to put both his surnames because otherwise they told him it didn’t match his ID, and he had bureaucratic problems. But on the English website, he could only put his first name and surname, so he had to put both his surnames together, separated by a hyphen.
Real name: Juan Pérez Martínez
On the form:
First name: Juan
Last name: Pérez-Martínez
Its patronymic for iceland and green countries, not fathers name
A minority in Scotland and Wales use a patronymic system broadly similar to the Icelandic model. It began to be less common following legislation by the Westminster Government in the 1830s to bring those countries in line with English naming conventions, but has now been revived.
Greek here. No, it’s not.
In Ukraine it’s actually Surname, First name, Patronymic name
It’s patronymic not “father’s name” for east slavic countries.
I wonder how middle names work in other countries? In Limbourg the order of the full name is traditionally First name + Second name chosen by parents + (feminised for a girl) name of the godfather + (masculinsed for a boy) name of the godmother + Last name
Oh boy, in Hungarian if you get married according to old law, it gets much more complicated than this…
In Germany you often enough have it family name, first name
Greece should be blue, just like it should be on the same picture posted again yesterday.
Western Isles of Scotland do the same as Iceland, though the map is of course correct that this is not the usual way in either Scotland or the UK and is not official.
in romania, our „normal“ one is actually surname (commonly the father’s) + name
and when applying to schools and stuff you do surname + father’s name initial(s) + name
In Malta it’s the same as in Hungary, but it’s always left out of these maps.