Hallo Finnland! Ich bin mir nicht sicher, ob dies das beste Subreddit ist. Wenn nicht, lassen Sie es mich wissen. Ich hoffte auf Hilfe bei der Suche nach den Namen im Babybuch meines Vaters, um das finnische Erbe aufzuspüren. Die finnische Linie ist der obere Teil dieses Buches.
Ich bin zu 25 % Finne, also war mein Vater zur Hälfte und sein Vater zu 100 %. Dies ist DNA-bestätigt. Die 1. Generation der Familie (Justina Carlson und Leander Andersson, oben in „Großvater“ und „Mutter“ aufgeführt) wanderte zwischen 1890 und Anfang des 20. Jahrhunderts nach Minnesota, USA, aus.
Ich versuche hier den Nachnamen Manula zu entziffern, ebenso wie badbak… es scheint nicht finnisch zu sein? Wir kamen aus Südösterbotten und mein Vater und mein Großvater hatten beide sehr gebräunte Haut und schwarzes Haar, wenn das etwas bedeutet.
Ich werde versuchen, auch über Genealogie zu posten, aber ich dachte, ich versuche es hier, da ich weiß, dass das finnische Erbe ziemlich isoliert ist.
Danke und ich hoffe, das macht Sinn …
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Von False_Grape1326
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There are currently about 40 people with surname ”Manula” in Finland, [according to database search.](https://nimipalvelu.dvv.fi/en/surname-search?name=Manula). That narrows it down quite a bit.
It may also be misspelled [Maunula](https://nimipalvelu.dvv.fi/en/surname-search?name=Maunula) which is more common a surname with 774 living people.
There is also an [info page about the name](https://www.tuomas.salste.net/suku/nimi/manula.html) and where people with that name live.
”Badbak” could be Swedish language meaning something like bath-back, you get the idea. Many areas and villages in Ostrobothnia have strong Swedish speaking minority or even majority.
Manula is a Finnish surname, but I don’t know any details of it.
Manula doesn’t seem exactly Finnish, but it’s close enough (other surnames ending in -la exist in droves, it denotes a place of origin. And Manu is a nickname for Mauno, which is a reasonably common name, so could just be that the first person of the lineage to get a surname was the child of a Manu, or the farm they lived at was Manu’s farm, etc). And there are currently 42 living Manulas in Finland, so that seems perfectly plausible.
Andrew Badbak/(Badtak ?) seems less likely to be local as those names don’t exist in the digitised records, but could be a misspelling, or just older than digitised records before they disappear from Finland
There’s this one guy who studies and keeps track on Finnish surnames. [The page has some info on surname Manula](https://www.tuomas.salste.net/suku/nimi/manula.html), such as living locations but sadly only from 1939 onwards. It’s in Finnish but maybe translate it with chatGPT or similar and see if it gives you any new info.
I’d like to remind you that Manula is one of those names that are related to a place, which means that people with that name might not be related, even if they lived in the same place.
If you can find out more information about Justina Carlson and Leander Andersson (or their parents), like birhdays and birthplaces, you’ll probably be able to track them and your ancestors in the Finnish parish records.
Is it possible that your grandmother, or whoever filled out the baby book, didn’t spell very well? -back or -backa would be a common element in Swedish names, either as a first syllable or a last syllable, but not -bak. I looked for Badback on the website that u/LonelyRudder shared, and it’s not there, but there are people in Finland named [Bodbacka](https://www.tuomas.salste.net/suku/nimi/bodbacka.html).
BTW, Andersson and Carlson are Swedish names, but that doesn’t mean that the people who had those names were Swedes. Finland was ruled by Sweden for many years, and many people who were ethnically Finnish and spoke Finnish had Swedish last names. Last names were pretty fluid up until the late 19th/early 20th century, at least in western Finland.
Remember also that surnames weren’t a thing in Finland yet in turn of the 20th century. They became mandatory by law 1920. Many people picked their surname then.
Just a comment: I agree what’s written above + logical explanation for Badbak would be Badbäck -> bath + small stream of water. Brook.