Chat-Kontrolle zu Steroiden findet statt

[You can read the entire plan here. It is more dystopian than Chat Control](https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/download/4802e306-c364-4154-835b-e986a9a49281_en?filename=Concluding%20Report%20of%20the%20HLG%20on%20access%20to%20data%20for%20effective%20law%20enforcement_en.pdf) This plan is called ”Roadmap for lawful and effective access to data for law enforcement” or ”ProtectEU” for short.

EU [has already endorsed]( https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:52025DC0349) that plan, originally devised by anonymous law enforcement lobbyists. [When German MEP Patrick Breyer requested the names](https://fragdenstaat.de/anfrage/sub-groups-working-groups-of-the-high-level-expert-group-on-access-to-data-for-effective-law-enforcement/#nachricht-842415) of the individuals involved in the high level group, the group that wrote this proposal, the EU Commission [replied with a list with all names blacked out](https://media.frag-den-staat.de/files/foi/848493/document17-participantlistfirstplenary.pdf)

They are so proud of the plan, it is all over their website, such as [here](https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/networks/high-level-group-hlg-access-data-effective-law-enforcement_en)
and [here](https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/internal-security/lawful-access-data/data-retention_en) and [here](https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/internal-security/lawful-access-data_en) too

By the way, about the data retention aspect of this law, the [previous data retention law](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Retention_Directive) was declared illegal in 2014 by CJEU (EU’s highest court) for being mass surveillance and violating human rights.

Since most EU states refused to follow the court order and the EU commission refused to enforce it, [CJEU recently caved in to political pressure](https://www.laquadrature.net/en/2024/04/30/surveillance-and-hadopi-eu-court-buries-online-anonymity-a-little-further/) and changed their stance on data retention, making it legal. We shall see if the Commission refuses to enforce court decisions this time when it is about invading privacy rather than protecting it.

**The Europol chief said that in a digital environment, the police needed to be able to decode these messages to fight crime. [“You will not be able to enforce democracy without it,”](https://www.belganewsagency.eu/europol-chief-calls-on-tech-giants-to-unlock-encrypted-messages) she added.**

I’m not that much in this topic. What are the actual dangers of that for a common, non-criminal citizen?

EDIT: Sheesh… Ask a question on Reddit and get downvoted for curiosity. Classic.

Isn’t that made by those guys who conveniently had their data removed?

When privacy gets rebranded as a threat, we’ve got a problem.

WEF have told their puppets what they want and the puppets tell us what we need.

Of course politicians the wealthy will be exempt from such things, there’s security risks for them!

Told y’all EU is pushing hard for these laws until one passes. And if one passes, the other ones do too. EU isn’t this nice community where they want the best for citizens. In reality, it’s a block quickly turning authoritarian and dystopic. The fact that EU law is above country laws is gonna fuck us hard. Digital sovereignty will mean the Chinese or Russian systems for us.

Thank fuck we will never join the dystopian EU. At this point we should just leave the EEA

Just like the Digital services act which is partly in breach this will be in breach of the GDPR

Every time chatcontrol fails to pass, it comes back stronger, how do we get rid of that evil ?

What gets me most about it, is that its really only against normal, innocent citizens.

Criminals, terrorists, spy networks,… will find other ways real quick. Two weeks tops.

That bloody nuts!

I know the UK has it’s own issues but holy moly things like Chat Control & now this sometimes make me glad i’m out of the EU (Although I am a ardent believer that the UK should have remained & Brexit was a mistake)

There is just no way these people are so stupid they still don’t understand why this is just not technically possible without undermining our digital society.

The only explanation for this push is authoritarianism.

They want a backdoor while maintaining the integrity of encryption. These folks believe in magic.

We can’t magically disinvent secure end-to-end communication. Loving regards, IRC.

Liberals still doing their best for EU to become fascist, in the name of order, security and profits.

> „to create the most far fetching surveillance apparatus the world has ever seen“

So nobody thought this might be *a bit* too on the nose?