Aktuelle Frontlinie in der Ostukraine: Vorgeschlagene Waffenstillstandsgrenze zwischen russischen und ukrainischen Streitkräften
Von Former_Goose_5202
Aktuelle Frontlinie in der Ostukraine: Vorgeschlagene Waffenstillstandsgrenze zwischen russischen und ukrainischen Streitkräften
Von Former_Goose_5202
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Ugh, that map is probably outdated already. The frontline shifts daily, it’s a brutal grind for tiny villages. Hard to keep up fr.
The frontline is outdated, the Russians are already in the Dnipro region.
Handing Putin a win that would cost him a million casualties. What a deal maker that Trump fella is.
This front map looks like it is from spring. Fantastic journalism by the BBC, claiming this is accurate for October 20th, whilst horrendous battles for Pokrovsk and Kupyansk are going on as we speak, not to mention the lack of the bulge north of Pokrovsk and nothing in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast.
Ya, that ain’t going to work.
It means Russia can concentrate its forces later for a renewed conflict, and the new “border” here doesn’t favor Ukraines defensive efforts, even if they did get a chance for a breather and resupply.
They should submit a counter proposal claiming all of Ukraine back and then a good chunk of russia
If Russia conquers Pokrovsk and Kupyansk, which they have almost done, the SFU will very likely fall in disarray, leading to more land loss.
The next round of talks will be even less favourable for Ukraine. Every round of talks is less favourable than the previous one since the Minsk agreements.
Ukraine appears to be losing
This seems completely wrong on multiple fronts, from current Frontline not being shown correctly to actual demand (Zap and Kherson aren’t being fully demanded, only Donetsk based on whats reported)
Why don’t people just let Russia have those four regions and we all make it peace without further escalation and we finally have peace, get our economy back and start building business and European safety and cancel all embargos and that’s it?
This isn’t a proposed ceasefire boundary, it’s the pre condition for Russia to start ceasefire discussions.
Ie give us all your defensive positions and maybe we’ll stop attacking you.
The map forgets to label Zaporizhzhia city, which had a pre war population of 750k, is the capital of its oblast, and was never captured by Russia.
This is just not at all what the front looks like right now
That’s not how current frontline looks like, fyi
Problem is, none of that land outside of Crimea and the far eastern Donbas is ethnically Russian
This map is already 3 months old
The precedent we are getting from the 2020s is that international law and UN are useless and a joke, that NATO is full of eunuchs, that you can get territories and whatever you want by invasion and force, and that nukes guarantee diplomatic inmunity
The „front line“ used on the map is ISW assessed russian „control line“, not the front line as stated on the map. The front line is around 5-10 km away from the „control line“ on ISW maps, called „assessed russian advance“.
BBC intentionally uses the wrong terminology to push their narrative.
Trump is the worlds greatest coward.
“Hey so let us completely breach your front line and establish new forward positions that we can break out form once we recover form our losses”
Any peace treaty has to come with Ukraine being permitted to join NATO and the EU.
Otherwise the Russian motive is quite obvious.
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So pootin wants land he does not holds and would give up other land on Zaporizhzhia which he also does not have.. master strategy!