Laut einer Quelle plant Deutschland, 15 weitere in den USA hergestellte F-35-Jets zu bestellen

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European nations buying F-35s believe that the USA will be back to sanity soon? Or are they confident that they will reverse-engineer stuff if the shit hits the fan?

Once again Germany leads the way in buying European systems.

How many F-35’s does Europe realistically need against Russia?

idiots , can’t they buy in europe.

Terrible. We cannot increase our military reliance on the US. Just because the F-35 is the best plane it doesn’t mean that we need it. Russia doesn’t even effectively have 5th gen fighter jets and this whole theory of nth gen jets and the strategy to deploy them has all been written by and centered around the American military industrial complex anyway. It’s not an absolute truth. If aircraft becomes more vulnerable due to better and cheaper missile technology, the solution is not to buy an advanced and expensive aircraft that is supposed to evade those missiles. The solution is to buy many cheap and dispensible aircraft and equip them with remote control.
The only reason why we might have to buy F-35 is for the US nukes but for that we don’t need them in large quantities.

A few months ago a defense ministry spokesperson said the claims of an additional 15 F35s to be purchaseed were false, let’s see who’s actyally telling the truth.

Lovely, can’t wait to have more expensive Kit standing on german airfields. Which will turn into the World’s most expensive pile of scrap metal, if parts/software stop. The whole point of re-vitalising national Arms production was lessening of US reliance.

BERLIN, Oct 20 (Reuters) – German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius intends to order an additional 15 F-35 fighter jets from U.S. manufacturer Lockheed Martin [(LMT.N), opens new tab](https://www.reuters.com/markets/companies/LMT.N), a parliamentary source told Reuters on Monday, confirming a report by Spiegel magazine.

Planners expect the aircraft to cost about 2.5 billion euros ($2.9 billion), according to confidential documents prepared for parliament’s budget committee, the source said.

Another source familiar with the matter confirmed the discussions to buy additional aircraft, without citing a number. The defence ministry in Berlin declined to comment.

Germany has already ordered 35 of the U.S.-made jets to replace its fleet of 85 ageing Tornado fighter jets, which are set to be decommissioned.

The F-35 aircraft will succeed the Tornado jets in their role of carrying U.S. nuclear bombs stored in Germany in the event of a conflict.

In July, Berlin denied plans to acquire an additional 15 F-35 fighter jets, but a significantly expanded [defence budget](https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/german-budget-committee-approves-investment-heavy-2025-budget-2025-09-04/) has since created more scope for weapons purchases.

At the time, a [military source](https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/germany-plans-buy-additional-15-f-35-fighter-jets-politico-reports-2025-07-11/) told Reuters that the idea of acquiring 15 more F-35 jets had been part of earlier discussions.

Any decision to purchase more F-35 aircraft could cause new tensions between [Germany](https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/berlin-weighs-developing-fighter-jet-without-dassault-says-source-2025-09-26/) and France, which have been at odds over their struggling fighter jet project [FCAS](https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/french-chaos-delays-meeting-future-european-fighter-jet-2025-10-09/), or SCAF in French.

I’m Portuguese and I say good call. With so many countries like mine dismissing the F-35 projects they will be cheaper and East Europe needs them more now. And for Germany is only one of the options they have, dicktator Trump can’t do much, grounding F35s when the county has another models to use would stop all F35 projects all over the world… I don’t put it pass the yellow Smurf tough.

Head -> desk

The EU had 4 years to hit the mobilization button and start producing and ordering equipment for the ZSU. Instead, it let the Ukrainian army to atrophy to an abysmal state. It’s answer to the worsening situation in the east instead is to throw mad cash into the American MIC, whose president, might I remind you, is a Russian lapdog and whose administration considers the EU an enemy.

What are the F-35s going to be used for exactly? Countries categorically refuse to confront the Russians and even shooting down drones which violate borders is considered too scary.

With the money wasted on that, you could have build and delivered enough equipment to kill 10s of thousands of Russians and protected that many Ukrainians, whether we talking about drones, IFVs/APCs, artillery and SPGs, or 4th gen Jets and rockets.