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    1. hairybootygobbler on

      source: [https://www.f35.com/f35/global-enterprise.html](https://www.f35.com/f35/global-enterprise.html)

      Note: The United Kingdom and Italy are the only European countries that operate the F35 B variant, as the others lack fixed wing aircraft carriers (France and Spain do, but they have not committed to buying F35s). The actual number of ready jets is lower, some are yet to be delivered. Italy probably has the largest operational fleet as the UK has only had around 40-50 F35s delivered so far, its hard to know the exact number.

    5. tree_boom on

      Those numbers – at least for the UK – are the number they profess to plan to buy rather than the number actually ordered or delivered. We’ve not even placed an order for more than 48 jets yet, though that will probably come soon. The plan is 60 Bs and 12 As following batch 2 and then some unknown mix afterwards – assuming we ever actually acquire more than 72.

      Really though, I’m not totally confident at this stage that we get more than 72 jets. Lead times mean that any we order after batch 2 won’t be delivered until after GCAP is in production

    6. nicubunu on

      Do we count those ordered but going to be delivered years from now? Are we sure they will arrive?

    7. ventus1b on

      What’s the meaning of the different shades of blue? The dark blue (UK, IT) I understand, but the others?

    9. Camelbak99 on

      Netherlands is 58 (37 + 9 + 6 + 6)
      Belgium is 45 (34 + 11)
      Denmark is 43 (27 + 16)

    10. BeatTheMarket30 on

      Too many. Europe needs to focus on own fighters such as gcap and fcas.

    11. Alin_Alexandru on

      I think you should add a map legend. You know, explaining the different shades of blue.

    12. missedmelikeidid on

      It’s not like the F-35 is available at a lot where you just pay at the cashier and the dozens of planes are delivered in a week. It will take ages until all ordered planes have been delivered.
      Talking about these numbers is false security.

    13. szczszqweqwe on

      First F35 for Poland will be delivered in 2026, so we don’t „have“ them.

    15. Fart-Overture on

      How come Ireland is richer than most of these countries, but we don’t have a military?

    16. TommyTBlack on

      every euro spent on an f-35 is a euro that could have been spent building up our own defence industry instead

    18. Senior_Barnacle2317 on

      I’m not a military guy but I have been following the conflict closely. 

      Could someone explain to me the purpose of these fighters? 
      At present Russia doesn’t fly over Ukraine because they release missiles from their own borders.

      Using these fighters to shoot down incoming missiles has proven not to be cost effective 

      I’m all for rearming Europe but we need the right gear, not any gear

    20. GregGraffin23 on

      Europe should fly European planes. I don’t think that should be controversial. Europe must reliant on itself and not the USA (or anyone else)

    21. ShiroJPmasta on

      A lot of countries just bought F35 to still have nuclear sharing without sharing secrets of other jets they have/develop.

    22. heapOfWallStreet on

      Too much. Europe should start build it’s own defense industry. Not being dependent of a fake alley.

    23. InterestingTank5345 on

      I still belive the Swedish jets had been better, especially in the irony of Sweden providing weapons for their arch nemesis.

    24. No_Gur_7422 on

      Does this include the dozen new F-35As the RAF is planning for nuclear combat?

    25. Razbojnik666 on

      Denmark just recently ordered 16 F35 more, bringing the total up to 43, when delivered.

    27. 3dvard_1 on

      I’m not really up to date but switzerland will buy fewer because they didn’t agree that the price will not increase from when they sign the contract to their delivery. Something like that at least.

    29. Eastern_Click_4361 on

      Romania has bought 32 in the first phase and possibly another 16 in the second phase.

    36. nous_serons_libre on

      It’s scary to see how many European countries have chosen the F35 and have de facto suborned their air forces to the whims of the USA.

    37. DkMomberg on

      Denmark has closed a deal for an additional 16 F35s, for a total of 43. The chart says 27.

    38. CommanderCorrigan on

      This is order numbers, Finland has zero at them moment for example.

    39. Budget-Awareness6476 on

      aka How many F-35s have European countries been ordered to buy..

    40. Electrical-Lab-9593 on

      I think European NATO could do with a cheaper bomb/missile truck to standardize on as well, unless that is the Eurofighter ?

      as i see that F16 are reaching end of life due to hours on the airframes

    41. Kashuki01 on

      More like EU countries by the times they sucked up the US instead of spending home

    43. orthoxerox on

      Damn, that’s a lot of planes. You could’ve donated many more of the older fighters to Ukraine and still had hundreds of the newest ones left.

    44. dakjelle on

      Imagine invading Ukraine under the lie it was about security and then face a Europe that just decided to burn money and put Russia in the weakest position it has ever been in modern times.

      Those numbers BTW, are not up to date several countries decided to buy more.

    45. Vermisseaux on

      Switzerland ordered 36 but there is a big scandal about price increase. Do there is some hope that we end up with less, unfortunately little hope that the order will be cancelled altogether.

    46. Boundish91 on

      With the current leadership in the US this could turn out to be a massive mistake.

    47. Huge-Reflection-8640 on

      No wonder no one takes the EU seriously. The US pisses down your throats and you still swallow it.

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