UNSC isn’t relevant if Russia is in the seat and a highly armed country with 1.5 billion people isn’t.
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smit8462 on
Explaination for China’s decision?
Normal_Human455 on
It is useless because UN have no actual power, we have seen un in russia ukraine war and gaza genocide
Tz-Tok on
SC should be removed.
Desideratae on
India and Germany in, UK, Russia out. France should prolly be replaced by someone as well
Excellent_Mud_172 on
No permanent seats. Elect the members. Might even elect a rep from a Muslim or black nation.
Cultural-Ad-8796 on
Why haven’t Italy and Spain said anything?
dhruvazs on
I don’t think India will ever be a part of UNSC, it is more likely that newer security alliances or institutions will take its place. Because till the time China has a veto in UNSC, they will never let India hold a permanent (or equal) status. (There are 5 permanent members with veto and 10 temporary members without veto and india is one of the temporary members though)
Their is no process for including or excluding a country in UNSC, so their is no legitimate process for a country’s selection till the permanent members create one.
We should also remember that UNSC is a realist organisation rather than an idealist one. What do you think happens if UNSC decides to fight against Russia in Ukraine – it would lead to next world war which in reality no country can afford.
kangerluswag on
So wait, 4 out of the P5 support it unconditionally?? So the only thing stopping them from approving India on the SC is China’s condition that India stop supporting Japan for a seat on the SC? Has this ever come up for a vote or anything and had China veto it for that reason??
Low_Bodybuilder5592 on
old map, and this is not a UN voting ig but surveys. the p5 members dont want to share power. 4 of them agreeing is meaningless cuz they know china won’t
Questionableth0ught on
It’s in none of the 5 SC seats interest’s to actually split veto power. There’s a reason Japan, Germany, Brazil and India have their proposals „stalled“ with 4/5 different SC seats approving and always 1 blocking. None of them actually want a new SC member, so they vote yes for diplomatic reasons knowing the 5th will always vote no.
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UNSC isn’t relevant if Russia is in the seat and a highly armed country with 1.5 billion people isn’t.
edit:grammar
Explaination for China’s decision?
It is useless because UN have no actual power, we have seen un in russia ukraine war and gaza genocide
SC should be removed.
India and Germany in, UK, Russia out. France should prolly be replaced by someone as well
No permanent seats. Elect the members. Might even elect a rep from a Muslim or black nation.
Why haven’t Italy and Spain said anything?
I don’t think India will ever be a part of UNSC, it is more likely that newer security alliances or institutions will take its place. Because till the time China has a veto in UNSC, they will never let India hold a permanent (or equal) status. (There are 5 permanent members with veto and 10 temporary members without veto and india is one of the temporary members though)
Their is no process for including or excluding a country in UNSC, so their is no legitimate process for a country’s selection till the permanent members create one.
We should also remember that UNSC is a realist organisation rather than an idealist one. What do you think happens if UNSC decides to fight against Russia in Ukraine – it would lead to next world war which in reality no country can afford.
So wait, 4 out of the P5 support it unconditionally?? So the only thing stopping them from approving India on the SC is China’s condition that India stop supporting Japan for a seat on the SC? Has this ever come up for a vote or anything and had China veto it for that reason??
old map, and this is not a UN voting ig but surveys. the p5 members dont want to share power. 4 of them agreeing is meaningless cuz they know china won’t
It’s in none of the 5 SC seats interest’s to actually split veto power. There’s a reason Japan, Germany, Brazil and India have their proposals „stalled“ with 4/5 different SC seats approving and always 1 blocking. None of them actually want a new SC member, so they vote yes for diplomatic reasons knowing the 5th will always vote no.