Facing threats, election workers in this Idaho County say they’ve found a solution against election deniers ahead of November: Ballot Verifier, a first-of-its-kind tool that gives anyone with an internet connection direct access to every single ballot that has been cast in all Ada County elections since 2022, meaning that those in the election denial movement can no longer say that they don’t have access to the information they want.
“We just decided there’s got to be a way that we can push back against this a little bit but also achieve that perfect marriage between technology and government records so that citizens, candidates, parties, everybody has access to all the information that we have,” says county clerk Trent Tripple.
The tool provides sleek graphics of all election races, and allows users to filter by type of ballot and even drill right down to precinct level to see an image of every single one of the ballots counted.
“I can’t even dream up how we can be more transparent than this,” says Tripple. “There isn’t anything else that we have that the public cannot see.”
I might be a cynic, but I don’t think this will change anything. It’s a question of faith and when you give them an infinite dataset, they’ll find something to latch onto. There will be some guy who swears he put something on his and it didn’t show up or some correlation between votes with a particular ink mark. I hope it works but won’t hold my breath.
trucorsair on
It’s a nice thought, but if election deniers were capable of reason, and looking at data objectively, they wouldn’t be election deniers. Instead of independent thought, they mindlessly follow, whoever captures their imagination and speaks for their supposed grievances.
markth_wi on
Nathaniel Hawthorne put it nicely – you can’t rationally argue someone out of a position they didn’t rationally argue themselves into.
These folks aren’t looking for transparency , they aren’t looking to be treated fairly, they are looking to mess about with everyone else’s rights to have transparency and fairness. As we’ve seen with other public service challenges it doesn’t matter how deferential or polite you are , as we see with former President, he can say he was treated unfairly and call things a scam at every turn, until his dying breath but in his bones he knows he was treated like a creampuff and will sometimes even privately admit as much.
What **we** need to do is denormalize the fringe bullshit, we need to penalize being that stupid or willfully ingenious or deceitful in our dealing with one another. We need to bring around the idea of being far, far better consumers of information because old Cosmo was right from „Sneakers“ , there’s a world war, and ‚it’s not about bullets and guns, it’s about information, what we see, how we work , what we believe….it’s all about the information.‘
Abedsbrother on
„Where are the servers located that host the website tool?“ – will be the first question asked.
Cymbal_Monkey on
I’ve spent enough time watching conspiracy theorists to know this will do nothing to change minds.
The post on freedom.god/trump is being written already and will read „Deepstate sets up fake website with fake ballot information to cover up the rigged election“
mobrocket on
Trump said in 2016 the election was rigged when he thought he was going to lose… And didn’t make a peep about it being rigged once he won
2020 he did the same thing cus he lost
Basically Jesus himself could come down from heaven and tell Trump supporters it wasn’t rigged and they wouldn’t believe it
They aren’t rational people. Remember they are the same ones who think a silver spoon NY billionaire is just like them and cares about them so much
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By David Gilbert
Facing threats, election workers in this Idaho County say they’ve found a solution against election deniers ahead of November: Ballot Verifier, a first-of-its-kind tool that gives anyone with an internet connection direct access to every single ballot that has been cast in all Ada County elections since 2022, meaning that those in the election denial movement can no longer say that they don’t have access to the information they want.
“We just decided there’s got to be a way that we can push back against this a little bit but also achieve that perfect marriage between technology and government records so that citizens, candidates, parties, everybody has access to all the information that we have,” says county clerk Trent Tripple.
The tool provides sleek graphics of all election races, and allows users to filter by type of ballot and even drill right down to precinct level to see an image of every single one of the ballots counted.
“I can’t even dream up how we can be more transparent than this,” says Tripple. “There isn’t anything else that we have that the public cannot see.”
Read the full story: [https://www.wired.com/story/ballot-verifier-idaho-new-tech-election-deniers/](https://www.wired.com/story/ballot-verifier-idaho-new-tech-election-deniers/)
I might be a cynic, but I don’t think this will change anything. It’s a question of faith and when you give them an infinite dataset, they’ll find something to latch onto. There will be some guy who swears he put something on his and it didn’t show up or some correlation between votes with a particular ink mark. I hope it works but won’t hold my breath.
It’s a nice thought, but if election deniers were capable of reason, and looking at data objectively, they wouldn’t be election deniers. Instead of independent thought, they mindlessly follow, whoever captures their imagination and speaks for their supposed grievances.
Nathaniel Hawthorne put it nicely – you can’t rationally argue someone out of a position they didn’t rationally argue themselves into.
These folks aren’t looking for transparency , they aren’t looking to be treated fairly, they are looking to mess about with everyone else’s rights to have transparency and fairness. As we’ve seen with other public service challenges it doesn’t matter how deferential or polite you are , as we see with former President, he can say he was treated unfairly and call things a scam at every turn, until his dying breath but in his bones he knows he was treated like a creampuff and will sometimes even privately admit as much.
What **we** need to do is denormalize the fringe bullshit, we need to penalize being that stupid or willfully ingenious or deceitful in our dealing with one another. We need to bring around the idea of being far, far better consumers of information because old Cosmo was right from „Sneakers“ , there’s a world war, and ‚it’s not about bullets and guns, it’s about information, what we see, how we work , what we believe….it’s all about the information.‘
„Where are the servers located that host the website tool?“ – will be the first question asked.
I’ve spent enough time watching conspiracy theorists to know this will do nothing to change minds.
The post on freedom.god/trump is being written already and will read „Deepstate sets up fake website with fake ballot information to cover up the rigged election“
Trump said in 2016 the election was rigged when he thought he was going to lose… And didn’t make a peep about it being rigged once he won
2020 he did the same thing cus he lost
Basically Jesus himself could come down from heaven and tell Trump supporters it wasn’t rigged and they wouldn’t believe it
They aren’t rational people. Remember they are the same ones who think a silver spoon NY billionaire is just like them and cares about them so much