Not really bad news, stops people for moving to Finland an exploiting benefits.
I wouldn’t expect to move to another country and them taking care of me without any contributions.
YogurtclosetVivid869 on
Nothing wrong with that
Lumpy_Argument_1867 on
Normal in most countries
TheoryOfRelativity12 on
As it should be
Korokorokoira on
So I’m welcome to pay my taxes and social security for as many years as they can have, but if I somehow end up losing my job a few months before applying for citizenship that would be grounds for them to deny me?!
You’re fucking welcome I guess.
shoptodip_bd on
Similarly the immigrants who are contributing in the economy should be awarded in certain ways.
feanarosurion on
Only thing that I hope is somehow exempt is parental leave benefits. A family that supports themselves and has kids shouldn’t be penalized just because they take the parental leave benefits. If that family isn’t supporting themselves, they’ll be taking other Kela benefits in addition.
Brilliant-Ad3942 on
I suspect this will just trap some people in Finland, if they were given an EU passport, they may just move elsewhere in the EU. After being on furlough myself, the notice you get can be very little, and the recruitment process can easily take longer than 3 months from application to start date.
EggParticular6583 on
I wouldn’t mind any of these changes if it means these filthy dirty scummy immigrants god damn them pay less or no taxes and contributions. I mean it’s only fair no ? you can’t keep slamming them left and right and expect them to pay the same taxes and contributions as the angels that can’t do no wrong natives
MNM- on
What exactly is included in the unemployment benefit payments. For example there is this relocation benefit that is paid after you get new employment. Will that also count? That covers a span of 1.5 month in addition to however long you took unemployment benefit.
Does this rule apply retrospectively? How was anyone supposed to know about this restriction a year ago. Why should we even pay for union fees or unemployment fund when there is only downsides to using this when we really need it?
Really starting to question my decision of staying in this country lately.
Brilliant-Ad3942 on
Is there any official text for this? So if someone has lived hear 10 years but relied on benefits for 4 months in one year, they will never be eligible for citizenship?
Nebuladiver on
This is quite stupid…
The max of 3 months unemployment is way too strict and not made in a sensible way. Even Finns remain unemployed for longer. The average (for all jobseekers) has reached over 16 months, people unemployed for over 2 years are at a record, and we’re having increased unemployment.
These factors should lead to changes in the people arriving in Finland now, but not penalize those who, if they are at a point they can apply for citizenship, have been here since earlier and are as victims of the current economic situation as everyone else.
cold-vein on
Yeah it’s dumb. Populists think people want to move here, they don’t. We don’t get many asylum seekers. We don’t get many people moving here to work. All this will do is force the few people who are lose their job & want citizenship is to take out a loan or something, or accept a shitty cleaning job until they become citizens. Or just go to Sweden. Like this won’t actually save any money, it’s just a major inconvenience for people who want to move here out of spite because we have xenophobes and racists in the goverment.
Revival456 on
Does union unemployment fund count as social welfare benefit or is that only for direct governme benefits ?
Coloeus_Monedula on
That’s not how the welfare state is supposed to be, fucking racist government smh
rulakarbes on
Obtaining other country’s citizenship is privilege, not a right.
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Not really bad news, stops people for moving to Finland an exploiting benefits.
I wouldn’t expect to move to another country and them taking care of me without any contributions.
Nothing wrong with that
Normal in most countries
As it should be
So I’m welcome to pay my taxes and social security for as many years as they can have, but if I somehow end up losing my job a few months before applying for citizenship that would be grounds for them to deny me?!
You’re fucking welcome I guess.
Similarly the immigrants who are contributing in the economy should be awarded in certain ways.
Only thing that I hope is somehow exempt is parental leave benefits. A family that supports themselves and has kids shouldn’t be penalized just because they take the parental leave benefits. If that family isn’t supporting themselves, they’ll be taking other Kela benefits in addition.
I suspect this will just trap some people in Finland, if they were given an EU passport, they may just move elsewhere in the EU. After being on furlough myself, the notice you get can be very little, and the recruitment process can easily take longer than 3 months from application to start date.
I wouldn’t mind any of these changes if it means these filthy dirty scummy immigrants god damn them pay less or no taxes and contributions. I mean it’s only fair no ? you can’t keep slamming them left and right and expect them to pay the same taxes and contributions as the angels that can’t do no wrong natives
What exactly is included in the unemployment benefit payments. For example there is this relocation benefit that is paid after you get new employment. Will that also count? That covers a span of 1.5 month in addition to however long you took unemployment benefit.
Does this rule apply retrospectively? How was anyone supposed to know about this restriction a year ago. Why should we even pay for union fees or unemployment fund when there is only downsides to using this when we really need it?
Really starting to question my decision of staying in this country lately.
Is there any official text for this? So if someone has lived hear 10 years but relied on benefits for 4 months in one year, they will never be eligible for citizenship?
This is quite stupid…
The max of 3 months unemployment is way too strict and not made in a sensible way. Even Finns remain unemployed for longer. The average (for all jobseekers) has reached over 16 months, people unemployed for over 2 years are at a record, and we’re having increased unemployment.
[https://yle.fi/a/74-20172488](https://yle.fi/a/74-20172488)
These factors should lead to changes in the people arriving in Finland now, but not penalize those who, if they are at a point they can apply for citizenship, have been here since earlier and are as victims of the current economic situation as everyone else.
Yeah it’s dumb. Populists think people want to move here, they don’t. We don’t get many asylum seekers. We don’t get many people moving here to work. All this will do is force the few people who are lose their job & want citizenship is to take out a loan or something, or accept a shitty cleaning job until they become citizens. Or just go to Sweden. Like this won’t actually save any money, it’s just a major inconvenience for people who want to move here out of spite because we have xenophobes and racists in the goverment.
Does union unemployment fund count as social welfare benefit or is that only for direct governme benefits ?
That’s not how the welfare state is supposed to be, fucking racist government smh
Obtaining other country’s citizenship is privilege, not a right.