Having social events at pubs would help more especially pub quiz, hell even sped dating or singles social nights would help or local bands.
The best way would be to lower prices
CorrosiveSpirit on
People can afford to go to the pub until the wee hours?
conman14 on
Doesn’t mean much if it’s somewhere like Belfast where all the buses end by 11pm and the taxis are extortionate.
Unhappy-Valuable-596 on
Reducing the duty on pubs would be the best thing after making ligeslation on the “breweries” margins
Worldly_Client_7614 on
Doesn’t matter how long they are open till.
Most folk physically can’t afford to go out for a couple pints.
Bednarz on
It depresses me so much that pubs are so expensive now the only ones I can financially justify going to are Wetherspoons.
WorldSearching on
Sorry, still not going. Prices are insane compared to salaries.
WhatsFunf on
This is a nothing story.
ALL PUBS can have a 24 hour licence. The two main issues are:
– They have to be permitted by the local council
– They have to actually make money and not deal with violence/problems
Regardless of any schemes from the government, it’s going to be very hard to force local councils to give later licences to pubs if they don’t want to. And a lot of pubs just don’t make money after midnight anyway.
In fact loads of pubs close at 9-10pm on weekdays these days, only opening later Thur-Sat.
TurbulentFortune5755 on
Adding to what other people have said, opening times are not the issue. Taxes and sky high utility bills are.
IlluminatedCookie on
Are they putting on later trains and busses too? Because they both end about 11 here. Last I checked last train was 11:10 and last bus was about 10:30 getting me home about midnight. Assuming either run to time or show up.
Obscure-Oracle on
The place i previously worked as a chef closes at 10pm, staying open late costs money and if you only have five locals sitting there nursing the same pint for hours then whats the point? Footfall has fallen massively in recent years and the food is what keeps the doors open, not the drink.
BaBaFiCo on
Deck chairs on the Titanic. Sounds like a nice policy, but means nothing.
Naive_Personality367 on
how are hungover people going to spur growth in the UK?
LauraPhilps7654 on
So we’re back to reheating the leftovers from New Labour’s final days…
Gov wants us all to be healthy, have kids, have no money, and go down the boozer every night, whilst holding down a job?
Sounds realistic
Radiant_Pudding5133 on
Lowering the ridiculous alcohol duty rates we have would go a lot further.
Lower it in pubs and increase it in supermarkets
egg1st on
It’ll just extract money out of people who are already propping up these establishments. The stat I saw last week was that 90% of spending on alcohol is by the top 10% of alcohol consumers.
ProjectZeus4000 on
Fuck me everyone here is so negative.
This is a good thing. Yay!
Yes it would be great if points cost £1 but they don’t. Subsidising it cost the taxpayer.
This is a win for customers and the industry, and nimbys and councils run by pensions who haven’t stayed up past 9pm years can do one.
Bean-Penis on
Cool, any chance we can do something for those of us who couldn’t give a shit about having a pint at 1am?
maxhaton on
I will believe it when spoons bring back the grill
CastleofWamdue on
„Working class people, please drink yourself into an early grave to help generate profits“ is pretty much exactly what I expect from the Government these days.
the95th on
Here’s all the things I can think of that would actually help:
1) Lower energy prices or restrict energy companies from profiteering off the hospitality trade.
2) Provide stronger investment into NVQ and Apprenticeship schemes so pubs can take on and train people appropriately in hospitality.
3) Bring back real neighbourhood policing so that people feel safe going out at night to pubs
4) reduce duties on alcohol for pubs and increase it for supermarkets to combat pre drinking and binge drinking culture. We’ve spent years saying drinking is bad now you want us back.
5) increase investment into late night bus schemes in rural areas to help stop drink driving.
Dark_Akarin on
I started going to a pug again when I found out they do a boardgames night for free. I end up buying dinner and a pint. More places need to start social events, I’m not going to a pub to just drink.
DeirdreBarstool on
Late night opening killed nightlife in my hometown.
20 years ago, it was a brilliant night out. Older people would go out about 7 and home for 11-11.30. Younger people would go out at 7 but stay out til 2.
Once they brought in the later opening, the younger ones started drinking at home then going out from 11 or so. So it was mostly dead for the older ones and they stopped going out or just went to their local instead.
floftie on
Every time one of these threads comes up I’m constantly reminded that not only do the majority of people not really understand how pubs work, they don’t understand how businesses work.
Lets take a small pub, as a start. Lets say you’re open 12 hours with one person working that entire time. That’s about £145 quid in wages, call it 165 with national insurance and pension. £165 JUST to have someone serving. Sure customers are paying £5 a pint, but lets be really generous and say that the pub makes £1 on that after duty and paying the supplier for the beer. JUST to pay the wages, that’s 175 pints a day JUST to pay the wages of the person working the bar.
It doesn’t cover electric, gas, rent (which is an absurd figure because it’s inflated by the owner of the pub, who is the only person the landlord can buy beer off, at an inflated price), or the landlords wages, who is doing the admin, prep, cleaning, etc.
The only realistic way to make any sort of dent in this at all, is pubs owned by breweries/suppliers need to be operated by them. It should be their responsibility to pay a salary to a landlord, wages etc. Essentially running like a Wetherspoons that also brews their own beer.
Alternatively, you force the owners of the pubs who rent them out to landlords to open the supply chain. You can be a renter of a pub, but the brewery/supplier cannot restrict you, essentially turning it into a freehouse where you can browse the open market. You or I can go to a brewery and buy a barrel of beer cheaper for our house party than a landlord can buy it from the same brewery that owns their pub.
starplayer1990 on
The need to make pints cheaper people go home early bcz it’s expensive
liquindian on
I worked in a pub that was open until 4am some nights during the Edinburgh Fringe. Those last two hours, even if the pub was busy, it didn’t sell much drink. Those who made it until that time were pretty much too drunk to do much more than nurse their drink until they were thrown out. I realise this is just one data point, and from twenty years ago at that, but I don’t think changing opening hours is going to change our drinking culture (throw as much as you can down your neck before chucking out time) very quickly.
Broccoli--Enthusiast on
Cool, public transport still doesn’t run past midnight at the latest. And taxis at that time are more than the drinks. Not much use.
Porticulus on
Some more work for the NHS I guess. Seriously, this will change fuck all and cause more issues for the police.
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Having social events at pubs would help more especially pub quiz, hell even sped dating or singles social nights would help or local bands.
The best way would be to lower prices
People can afford to go to the pub until the wee hours?
Doesn’t mean much if it’s somewhere like Belfast where all the buses end by 11pm and the taxis are extortionate.
Reducing the duty on pubs would be the best thing after making ligeslation on the “breweries” margins
Doesn’t matter how long they are open till.
Most folk physically can’t afford to go out for a couple pints.
It depresses me so much that pubs are so expensive now the only ones I can financially justify going to are Wetherspoons.
Sorry, still not going. Prices are insane compared to salaries.
This is a nothing story.
ALL PUBS can have a 24 hour licence. The two main issues are:
– They have to be permitted by the local council
– They have to actually make money and not deal with violence/problems
Regardless of any schemes from the government, it’s going to be very hard to force local councils to give later licences to pubs if they don’t want to. And a lot of pubs just don’t make money after midnight anyway.
In fact loads of pubs close at 9-10pm on weekdays these days, only opening later Thur-Sat.
Adding to what other people have said, opening times are not the issue. Taxes and sky high utility bills are.
Are they putting on later trains and busses too? Because they both end about 11 here. Last I checked last train was 11:10 and last bus was about 10:30 getting me home about midnight. Assuming either run to time or show up.
The place i previously worked as a chef closes at 10pm, staying open late costs money and if you only have five locals sitting there nursing the same pint for hours then whats the point? Footfall has fallen massively in recent years and the food is what keeps the doors open, not the drink.
Deck chairs on the Titanic. Sounds like a nice policy, but means nothing.
how are hungover people going to spur growth in the UK?
So we’re back to reheating the leftovers from New Labour’s final days…
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/blair-defends-new-24-hour-drinking-laws-1.525201
Why not try super casinos next?
Gov wants us all to be healthy, have kids, have no money, and go down the boozer every night, whilst holding down a job?
Sounds realistic
Lowering the ridiculous alcohol duty rates we have would go a lot further.
Lower it in pubs and increase it in supermarkets
It’ll just extract money out of people who are already propping up these establishments. The stat I saw last week was that 90% of spending on alcohol is by the top 10% of alcohol consumers.
Fuck me everyone here is so negative.
This is a good thing. Yay!
Yes it would be great if points cost £1 but they don’t. Subsidising it cost the taxpayer.
This is a win for customers and the industry, and nimbys and councils run by pensions who haven’t stayed up past 9pm years can do one.
Cool, any chance we can do something for those of us who couldn’t give a shit about having a pint at 1am?
I will believe it when spoons bring back the grill
„Working class people, please drink yourself into an early grave to help generate profits“ is pretty much exactly what I expect from the Government these days.
Here’s all the things I can think of that would actually help:
1) Lower energy prices or restrict energy companies from profiteering off the hospitality trade.
2) Provide stronger investment into NVQ and Apprenticeship schemes so pubs can take on and train people appropriately in hospitality.
3) Bring back real neighbourhood policing so that people feel safe going out at night to pubs
4) reduce duties on alcohol for pubs and increase it for supermarkets to combat pre drinking and binge drinking culture. We’ve spent years saying drinking is bad now you want us back.
5) increase investment into late night bus schemes in rural areas to help stop drink driving.
I started going to a pug again when I found out they do a boardgames night for free. I end up buying dinner and a pint. More places need to start social events, I’m not going to a pub to just drink.
Late night opening killed nightlife in my hometown.
20 years ago, it was a brilliant night out. Older people would go out about 7 and home for 11-11.30. Younger people would go out at 7 but stay out til 2.
Once they brought in the later opening, the younger ones started drinking at home then going out from 11 or so. So it was mostly dead for the older ones and they stopped going out or just went to their local instead.
Every time one of these threads comes up I’m constantly reminded that not only do the majority of people not really understand how pubs work, they don’t understand how businesses work.
Lets take a small pub, as a start. Lets say you’re open 12 hours with one person working that entire time. That’s about £145 quid in wages, call it 165 with national insurance and pension. £165 JUST to have someone serving. Sure customers are paying £5 a pint, but lets be really generous and say that the pub makes £1 on that after duty and paying the supplier for the beer. JUST to pay the wages, that’s 175 pints a day JUST to pay the wages of the person working the bar.
It doesn’t cover electric, gas, rent (which is an absurd figure because it’s inflated by the owner of the pub, who is the only person the landlord can buy beer off, at an inflated price), or the landlords wages, who is doing the admin, prep, cleaning, etc.
The only realistic way to make any sort of dent in this at all, is pubs owned by breweries/suppliers need to be operated by them. It should be their responsibility to pay a salary to a landlord, wages etc. Essentially running like a Wetherspoons that also brews their own beer.
Alternatively, you force the owners of the pubs who rent them out to landlords to open the supply chain. You can be a renter of a pub, but the brewery/supplier cannot restrict you, essentially turning it into a freehouse where you can browse the open market. You or I can go to a brewery and buy a barrel of beer cheaper for our house party than a landlord can buy it from the same brewery that owns their pub.
The need to make pints cheaper people go home early bcz it’s expensive
I worked in a pub that was open until 4am some nights during the Edinburgh Fringe. Those last two hours, even if the pub was busy, it didn’t sell much drink. Those who made it until that time were pretty much too drunk to do much more than nurse their drink until they were thrown out. I realise this is just one data point, and from twenty years ago at that, but I don’t think changing opening hours is going to change our drinking culture (throw as much as you can down your neck before chucking out time) very quickly.
Cool, public transport still doesn’t run past midnight at the latest. And taxis at that time are more than the drinks. Not much use.
Some more work for the NHS I guess. Seriously, this will change fuck all and cause more issues for the police.