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    Erklärung von Micheál Martin zum Jahrestag des 7. Oktober

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    1. throwaway_fun_acc123 on

      Hamas offered to release the hostages on 08th of October if Israel did not enter Gaza. It’s never been about the hostages, it’s been about Genocide.

      Micheal martins failure to pass and enact the occupied territories bill, enact a full arms embargo, end the dual use and military contracts is complicity in that genocide.

      Fuck Micheal Martin and fuck Israel

    2. azorreborn on

      Two years in to “both sides are at fault” from him still

      Edit: I appreciate this will blow up but ultimately:

      -this doesn’t start on October 7th
      -the propping up of this one date as a significant point undermines the fact that while 1,000 died on October 7th, over half a million Palestinians have died since. Parroting this ONE SPECIFIC DATE undercuts the barbarity of what followed.

      Obviously nobody should have died, but boosting the remembrance of this day means you undermine the mass murder of over half a million people who do not get a day dedicated to their deaths

    3. LucyVialli on

      Taoiseach probably glad that this anniversary and the budget will dominate the news now, hoping the Gavin thing (and the LYING thing) might be overshadowed.

    4. wrghf on

      Quite a measured and reasonable statement.

      I’m almost surprised, what with it being that brief, that a statement was put out at all.

    6. HappyMike91 on

      The Occupied Territories Bill still hasn’t been passed yet. I don’t think any statement made by Martin (or anyone else) matters as long as the Occupied Territories Bill has not been passed.

    9. RuncibleSpoon74 on

      A balanced statement that I think is fitting for the Taoiseach to make. How do we know it’s balanced? Both sides will have a hissy fit over it.

    11. Dookwithanegg on

      He knows after the Gavin disaster he’s going to be out so it makes sense he’s put out a pandering letter to line up his next job. Mentioning the genocide would upset the people he is hoping to sell himself to.

    12. c-mag95 on

      Can we please stop tying HAMAS in with the people of Palestine? HAMAS are a terrorist organisation, as are Hezbollah, who’ve both committed terrorist acts against innocent civilians in the past, including the October 7th attacks.

      Being against the terrorist acts committed by HAMAS doesn’t mean that you’re automatically agreeing with the genocide against the Palestinian people by Isreal, just as being against the acts of Isreal doesn’t automatically make you a terrorist. Both groups are doing horrible things to innocent civilians, and both groups should be brought to justice.

    14. PintmanConnolly on

      There’s an awful lot of exceptionalism when it comes to Israel, isn’t there? Everything bad that happens to them is somehow *uniquely* awful in a way that no one else could ever possible understand – ignore the fact that what they’ve been doing in Gaza since October 7th 2023 has been many orders of magnitude worse than that attack.

      Obviously October 7th was bad, condemnable, etc. But the ensuing genocide of Palestinians has been far, far worse. We need to keep that sense of perspective. Both sides are *not* equally bad. One side has committed far, far greater evils than the other, and this needs to be acknowledged.

      Any measured statement about October 7th would acknowledge that Israel’s response has been extraordinarily disproportionate, even if you just consider the more conservative estimate of 1,195 Israeli deaths versus 67,144 Palestinians deaths.

      In other words, the Israeli state’s actions have been more than 56 times worse than Hamas‘ actions.

      Really sit with that fact for a while, and consider the exceptionalism necessary to pretend that both sides are somehow equal evils in this world.

    15. FunkLoudSoulNoise on

      Why won’t he talk about the Hamas leadership and who actually pulls the strings ? We had it in this country too but conveniently ignored by politicians & media. He should know what nation founded Hamas and he should definitely know what nation helped to bind modern era extreme Islamism to politics in the first place for political purposes when they controlled Egypt.

      Strange how such a militarist nation with the best of technology and intelligence wouldn’t have been able to stop or hold back the attack. Almost like they got the perfect excuse to annex and destroy Gaza.

    17. significantrisk on

      Who’s doing this slaughter and causing the famine? Weird how there’s no problem making an active statement about the Hamas attack, but there’s only magical passive slaughtering of Palestinians. Who incidentally are not mentioned, he just leaves the implication hanging there that it is Hamas being slaughtered.

      Yeah fuck off with that mealy mouthed nonsense.

    20. Subject_Pilot682 on

      Why focus on October 7th as if it was entirely isolated and not a response to decades of Israeli slaughter going back to at least 1967 and arguably starting in the 1800’s with the want for a Zionist state by displacing the entire population of Palestine?

      Treating the heinous genocide that has followed as an afterthought to be swept under the rubble of the hospitals and homes targeted by the Israeli military is not something Ireland of all countries should be messaging. 

    23. PopplerJoe on

      Jesus, the amount of people that seem to struggle to condemn what Hamas has done is disappointing.
      Can’t even criticise them without „but Israel…“, likewise „but Hamas…“.

      You can condemn both Hamas and Israel.
      Neither party gives a shit about the people they claim to be fighting for.

    24. Atreides-42 on

      If anything this reads like blaming Hamas for the slaughter and famine in Gaza. No mention of the thousands and thousands of the Palestinian ~~hostages~~ *prisoners* in Israel, or any explicit mention of the actions of Israel, just

      „Hamas did a bad thing, Hamas is doing more bad things, the war needs to end“

    25. Ok-Call-4805 on

      Israel is solely responsible for everything going on. If they hadn’t been a terrorist state then October 7th never would’ve happened.

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