Digitale ID -Karten beschränken die Nutzung öffentlicher Dienste nicht “, sagt Kultursekretärin Lisa Nandy LBC gegenüber
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/digital-id-cards-services-5HjdDXj_2/
Von tylerthe-theatre
Digitale ID -Karten beschränken die Nutzung öffentlicher Dienste nicht “, sagt Kultursekretärin Lisa Nandy LBC gegenüber
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/digital-id-cards-services-5HjdDXj_2/
Von tylerthe-theatre
46 Kommentare
Yeah whatever. These lot tell lies soon as their lips move.
>Digital ID will become mandatory as a means of proving the right to work under new government plans.
So it will be de facto mandatory for anyone aged between 18 and retirement age.
Matches up with Tony Blair’s idea of „start narrow, then expand once people can’t resist anymore“.
*“Tony Blair Institute (TBI) Report (September 2025): This influential paper, commissioned by Starmer’s team, pushes for a „universal digital-ID system“ as a „personal digital public assistant.“* ***It proposes starting narrow (e.g., Home Office for work/rent)*** *but expanding to:*
*- Healthcare: Integration with the NHS App for personalized prevention and record access.*
*- Welfare/Benefits: Automatic eligibility checks (e.g., child benefits, council-tax reductions).*
*- Government Services: Single touchpoint for tax records, driving licenses, pothole reporting, and even online voting.*
*- Banking/Private Sector: Simplified fraud-proof verification for accounts or rentals.*
*TBI envisions a „superapp“ for proactive, AI-driven services, with a phased rollout across departments like HMRC, DWP, and local councils. Quote: „Digital ID should become each citizen’s personal digital public assistant – a front door to the delivery of a new model of public services that are personalised, easy to access and efficient.“*
[https://institute.global/insights/politics-and-governance/time-for-digital-id-a-new-consensus-for-a-state-that-works](https://institute.global/insights/politics-and-governance/time-for-digital-id-a-new-consensus-for-a-state-that-works)
>Digital ID will become mandatory as a means of proving the right to work under new government plans.
All migrants in the UK already have evisas that landlords and employers legally have to check, for us this is simply a technical change as we migrate this evisa system to the digital ID system.
The people who will be affected are British citizens, who are able to get by with just a driving licence and NI number. Making it mandatory will severely affect those who are not aware of the system or do not have the means to access the system. And if they want to make it accessible to all (with solid ID cards for example), they are opening themselves up to fraud the way driving licences already fact.
So on one hand she says – „*it will „definitely not“ be the case that elderly or retired people, for example, will need one to get an NHS appointment or pension entitlement.*“
And on the other hand she says – „*If you think about the number of times… you have to dig out things like utility bills, national insurance numbers, passport details in order to be able to access services.*“
„*I think it will enable people to travel much more seamlessly through their interaction with government. It will help us to cut down on bureaucracy.*“
FFS, make up your mind whether it will be used to access government services or not.
That’s nice. This current Cabinet says that so therefore it could never happen. I’m so glad we can trust all politicians for evermore.
Edit. Same argument can be said for the disappearance of cash over digital payments. The idea of a cashless society would have been unthinkable 40 years ago. Now, it’s a real possibility in the future.
So as expected: yet another ID, but not actually useable for much, but it will be compulsory, but you don’t need it and it will stop immigrants doing things but won’t stop immigrants doing things.
And people wonder why Starmers support is in a ditch…
Every time they start off with a limited idea and expand. Same thing with censorship and proscription. You get in with the thin end and expand over time
>Digital ID cards ‚will not restrict use of public services,‘
… for now.
Nandy always looks confused by her own words. I don’t think I could imagine a politician who inspires less confidence.
So what are they for then? What’s the point in them?
Can’t trust the Tory/Labour Party/reform party anymore. All they do is lie.
This is an authoritarian regimes dream. And since there’s a real danger reform could win the next election it feels like labour are just getting the country ready for secret police to be asking to „see your papers“.
Honestly, some of the brain dead comments in the thread are disturbing. ID cards are fairly standard and help prevent benefit fraud, improve transparency (in Estonia you can view every time a police car scans your car, your health records etc and vote online), even better they cut down on fraud and waste. We have an archaic voting system, based on sports arenas counting paper slips, it’s incredibly expensive. I’m an Estonian digital citizen and the implementation there is incredible. Bear in mind, they implemented this at a point where they had little trust in governments post Soviet Union, the transparency it brings is an important part of the reasoning. From a privacy perspective, the government has all the data already, this is about waste and fraud. If you’re not claiming benefits when you shouldn’t and moan about public sector costs, this is really the sort of thing you’d want for the benefits it brings. https://nortal.com/insights/why-digital-sovereignty-matters-and-how-x-road-makes-it-happen https://e-estonia.com/solutions/interoperability-services/x-road/
OH LOOK, it’s THE THING THE “WEIRDOS” SAID WAS GONNA HAPPEN IS HAPPENING.
WHO COULD HAVE FORSEEN THIS.
For now… digital id wasn’t part of the manifesto. Fleetwood Mac had a song for this no?
„For now“
„Initially“
„As of today“
None of these lizard people can guarantee those systems will never, at any point in the future, and under any circumstances, forever, will be used to restrict use of public services.
That is the bottom line.
Wait a minute! A politician said something. Must be true. 100%. I’ve never known one to speak an un-truth.
Then what is the point of them? Starmer is saying that digital IDs are needed to restrict access of immigrants to public services. How can you tell if someone is eligible for public services without checking this ID?
I’m all for digital id cards but what’s the point if they aren’t going to use them to cut down on benefit fraud, illegals working etc.
Do I believe her? No. Do I trust whomever comes to power in later years not to abuse them even if she is telling the truth? Fuck no!
Why shouldn’t UK public services be restricted to UK residents? It seems like an obvious way to combat fraud.
Haha nah, they lied so much and fucked us over too many times.
I don’t believe anything our government tells us.
Why do virtually all the top level comments here have all their post and comment history hidden?
Well thats a mistake. It absolutely should. That should be its main use case. Otherwise its a waste of time.
Okay, so let’s assume Labour aren’t lying. What about the next government that Labour will then be handing over Digital ID cards and the database to?
Given how often poltiicians lie I take this as confirmation that it will be used precisely in that manner.
People do love to wear their tin foil hats in here
Il make sure im the last person to get one if the do come out
It won’t affect you… until it does. Just like face ID rolling out everywhere and the OSA censoring the internet.
Why do they just talk about what it won’t do, and the opportunities in vague terms.. sell the benefits.. honestly there hopeless
Works fine in hundreds of other countries. Why are brits so afraid of positive progression. I’d kill not to have lugged 5 different forms of ID around when doing stuff. Passport and birth certificate. Oh and then a proof of address that isn’t either of those. Oh must be dated last 3 months. Oh cant be x y z. Absolute joke. Digital ID will be great.
I dont trust them.
This will be abused.
I dont see how they can enforce it if its not mandatory and i already work? Also, how can you mandate people use it? Are we now saying passports are not valid ID?
Imagine the amount of fraud this is going to cause.
A bunch of traitors the lot of them. Never ever will they see my vote again. Adding them to the shit list with the Tories.
We desperately need an alternative to Reform or else we’re fucked.
i’m sure she will send the zionists in israel all of our data though happily
I mean digital id cards can work great if their not mandatory
Given all the companies not being able to do business due to hackers. Then I have to what will happen when ether a technical issue or hackers shutdown the system.
Where is the data being stored?, who is processing it?, who has access to it?
They also said ID cards were not being considered at all, but here we are.
This is not about immigration. No ID card will ever stop a boat crossing the channel.
The main issue comes from the creep of this and can you trust governments to not continually over reach
On Question Time last night Nandy was saying that the NHS app was good because it allows you to book an appointment to see your GP. My App doesn’t let you do that: you have to go through the GP’s own booking system. I quite like her as a person but I do think she’s a bit clueless.
They should issue a physical card as well. Also – they should definitely curtail public services if you don’t produce an ID. You should produce ID for any benefits, including the NHS. We should ensure the person recibí g the service is entitled to it. That’s the point, is it not?
Probably true.
For now.
But what about 4 years from now? 10 years from now? 30 years from now?
Once this genie is out the bottle it can’t go back in.
If they had called it a e-*Government Credential Wallet* nobody (relatively) would’ve complained.
We need to get out on the streets.
Even as someone whose never believed in our political system we are now at the point (Similar to the US) where people can just say ANYTHING THEY WANT and then within no time at all do a complete U-Turn and expect us to just swallow it.
We need to get onto the streets, We need to protest and we need to make sure when we do we have the most disruptive impact possible or this will just descend into an authoritarian shithole.
I think really we need the actual details of the scheme before drawing ire.
It seems to be from the outside whilst there’s a digital version they’ll also be a physical version.
What you require it for is what we need to know more of
Some private companies bout to make some bank.
My only issue is that. The govt should be running it and selling our data to fund social services not to line rich cunts pockets.