Great, always wanted one. I remember wishing for one as a child when blowing out my birthday candles.
Sufficient-Word101 on
Digital drivers licences were coming this winter anyway (which I’d definitely use) so I couldn’t give less of a fuck tbh I don’t know why people are being very overly dramatic about this other than force of habit
Rewindcasette on
Just in time for Reform at the next election. Sigh.
Particular_Pickle465 on
I don’t see why this is a bad thing, many countries in Europe and the rest of the world have this and it doesn’t make them dictatorships.
PenguinPetesLostBod on
How long until it’s revealed that it’ll be Palantir in charge of creating the database?
FinnMacCool77 on
Well, the crowd that screams that voters should not have to present ID should now not have a problem with votors having to present id.
A much bigger issue is the USA, but with elections under more and more scrutiny, the reactions will be telling.
Ikkarus7 on
Not trying to antagonise but why are folks so negative about this?
Folks like Apple Pay and Google Play and are happy to use digital wallets for boarding passes and cards why not a drivers license / passport?
Don’t see the issue myself but perhaps I’m missing something? I dunno.
Look-over-there-ag on
Why are people getting so upset over this, it’s just an ID….
Little_Pink on
About time, it will let us fly around the EU without a passport …… oh wait.
Nonetheless it’s probably useful to have an easily accepted ID card without having to pass a driving test.
CalicoCatRobot on
>Anyone seeking to start a new job or rent a property would be required to present their digital ID, which would then be checked automatically against a central database of individuals entitled to work in the UK
Interesting that the Telegraph are quite careful not to be too obvious whether they are for or against this, unlike their usual stories.
They’re probably waiting to see how their readers react before they attack (or support) it.
If the legislation is well written (big if) and it’s limited to situations where people have to prove right to work, then I don’t see how Reform and their newspaper backers can criticise it, unless they want to claim they are pro illegal immigrants being able to work?
Obviously there is the slippery slope argument, but that can exist with any system of checks.
Hellstorm901 on
So if we have a digital ID do I still need to verify under the OSA because surely by having a digital ID to access the internet my IP should know I’m an adult and thus the random websites collecting your data on behalf of China and Russia shouldn’t need your proof of identity
Delicious_Bet_6336 on
Genuinely curious – how is this different from a passport? (I get not everyone drives / kids etc so a driving license doesn’t work)
ThenIndependence4502 on
Wonder which government donor will get the billion £ contract…
Dinesaur on
Im not concerned about digital ID as a concept (practicalities of data security aside). However as a trans person, I also fear this to be implemented in such a way that forcibly outs me disproportionately to when such info would actually be required.
Extension_Point5466 on
I remember in my nativity play as a child I was playing a Roman who was ordering people to register their identities with the Roman empire.
The original zealot, Judas of Galilee, led a revolt against this census
MSweeny81 on
>Britain is one of the few countries in Europe without a national ID card system, which critics claim has allowed a black market in jobs to flourish, making the UK attractive to illegal migrants
So presumable all these countries in Europe with this system have a very small number of illegal immigrants and a very small proportion of those are working right?
RedBerryyy on
Tony Blair must be practically crying with joy right now.
Ok_Pin92 on
What some ppl fail to grasp is this will be used eventually to track everything you do, limit your movement, limit your spending and give you a ration card of carbon credits that limits your freedom to do anything.
See China social credit score for one we made earlier.
Totalitarian despots want you living hand to mouth with whip in hand if you want to complain.
PrestigiousTourist75 on
Its all fun and games until the system gets hacked and everyone’s data is leaked.
Practical-Stick2252 on
Authoritarian, where are your papers vibes. Sure it’ll start with “illegal immigrants” but if you think the government won’t eventually use their new found powers on you then read a history book.
Lonely_Actuator_1242 on
You’ll prob need to submit digital id to use services such as reddit Gmail whatever which is a complete invasion of privacy and not a good thing
Crashball_Centre on
Nothing has ever gone wrong with digital stuff before, it’ll be great.
uselesstosser on
How the ever loving feck will that stop the boats. An SA80 with stop the boats not a dystopian nightmare piece of plastic. Fuck Starmer. Fuck labour.
rookinn on
Labour have had a hard on for ID cards for decades. I’ve never understood why.
UnlikelyHabit279 on
Labour, being Labour, will somehow fuck it up so it ens up being misused.
affordable_firepower on
This has the potential to bring a lot of joined up government to work and to make life fairer and easier for UK citizens.
It also has the potential to drop everyone’s personal information right into the lap of the highest bidder. Or to provide unnecessary user access to my personal data like the Regulation of Investigatory Powers act did.
There needs to be sufficient regulation about what data is stored and what organisations are allowed access to what type of data.
Ideally this should be an internal [gov.uk](http://gov.uk) IT project and not given to Fujitsu, Palantir, HP et al.
Jimmeh_Jazz on
Have something like this called SingPass here in Singapore. Great for logging into official stuff when needed. Just use the app to scan the SingPass login QR code, authenticate with your finger print and then you’re in.
Human-Egg2793 on
The cards aren’t the problem. I have lots of forms of ID and a tracking device on me most of the time in the form of a mobile phone.
My problem would be if there were a requirement to have it on you when in public. If I’m just going about my lawful business then I’ve no reason to prove my identity to anyone (outside of specific legal arrangements).
CedricTheCurtain on
We already have passports and driving licences, this is pretty much a non-event.
TheHelpfulRecruiter on
As much as I don’t trust this government with anything to do with the internet, and think they have an Orwellian approach to our online freedoms – it’ll be nice to finally not have to carry a wallet everywhere.
The only reason I still have one is on the off chance I get ID’d buying vapes and alcohol, the rest of the time I just use my apple wallet.
FlowerpotPetalface on
I’m not a conspiracy theorist or anything but I won’t be having one of these. Compulsory or not, I’m not going to download one to my phone because I don’t need it. The government already know who I am.
They’re not going to stop small boat crossings either.
Scary-Spinach1955 on
What am I missing, we have passports already, why not make them required and digital?
AdditionalThinking on
There are so many questions that need to be answered.
Where are they getting the data from in order to make this? How do you verify people are using their own ID? How do you stop illegal immigrants renting IDs like they already do? How easy will it be to update your information? Does this not infringe GDPR’s right to erasure?
InfinityEternity17 on
So it’s mandatory and we have to pay for it? Cheers Keith, yet another useless expense on top of everything else.
LegoNinja11 on
What if you don’t have or want a digital footprint or have no access to technology.
You’ll be amazed to learn that there’s an entire generation who don’t have a mobile phone, computer or any means of accessing the online world.
xParesh on
Is this meant to serve any purpose or fix a problem we currently have?
Outrageous_Agent_608 on
Had one when I worked in Singapore. It’s perfectly fine and 100% the right move which we should have done years ago!
Personal_Lab_484 on
I’ve spent more time chasing the fucking council for a paper with my name on than I care to think.
It’s 2025. Give me a free digital ID that means I don’t need to fuck around.
Where it stop is where the police are able to mandate I show them it. That’s not happening
limaconnect77 on
Will certainly make for very entertaining LBC call-ins with all the anti-vax/cash only/SovCit lot getting enraged on the airwaves.
Lucky_Bluejay5446 on
what will be the punishment for people who refuse? if its going to be mandatory whats stopping me from just destroying all my tech and become a luddite? if thats the cost for freedom im sure at least some people will join in
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Great, always wanted one. I remember wishing for one as a child when blowing out my birthday candles.
Digital drivers licences were coming this winter anyway (which I’d definitely use) so I couldn’t give less of a fuck tbh I don’t know why people are being very overly dramatic about this other than force of habit
Just in time for Reform at the next election. Sigh.
I don’t see why this is a bad thing, many countries in Europe and the rest of the world have this and it doesn’t make them dictatorships.
How long until it’s revealed that it’ll be Palantir in charge of creating the database?
Well, the crowd that screams that voters should not have to present ID should now not have a problem with votors having to present id.
A much bigger issue is the USA, but with elections under more and more scrutiny, the reactions will be telling.
Not trying to antagonise but why are folks so negative about this?
Folks like Apple Pay and Google Play and are happy to use digital wallets for boarding passes and cards why not a drivers license / passport?
Don’t see the issue myself but perhaps I’m missing something? I dunno.
Why are people getting so upset over this, it’s just an ID….
About time, it will let us fly around the EU without a passport …… oh wait.
Nonetheless it’s probably useful to have an easily accepted ID card without having to pass a driving test.
>Anyone seeking to start a new job or rent a property would be required to present their digital ID, which would then be checked automatically against a central database of individuals entitled to work in the UK
Interesting that the Telegraph are quite careful not to be too obvious whether they are for or against this, unlike their usual stories.
They’re probably waiting to see how their readers react before they attack (or support) it.
If the legislation is well written (big if) and it’s limited to situations where people have to prove right to work, then I don’t see how Reform and their newspaper backers can criticise it, unless they want to claim they are pro illegal immigrants being able to work?
Obviously there is the slippery slope argument, but that can exist with any system of checks.
So if we have a digital ID do I still need to verify under the OSA because surely by having a digital ID to access the internet my IP should know I’m an adult and thus the random websites collecting your data on behalf of China and Russia shouldn’t need your proof of identity
Genuinely curious – how is this different from a passport? (I get not everyone drives / kids etc so a driving license doesn’t work)
Wonder which government donor will get the billion £ contract…
Im not concerned about digital ID as a concept (practicalities of data security aside). However as a trans person, I also fear this to be implemented in such a way that forcibly outs me disproportionately to when such info would actually be required.
I remember in my nativity play as a child I was playing a Roman who was ordering people to register their identities with the Roman empire.
The original zealot, Judas of Galilee, led a revolt against this census
>Britain is one of the few countries in Europe without a national ID card system, which critics claim has allowed a black market in jobs to flourish, making the UK attractive to illegal migrants
So presumable all these countries in Europe with this system have a very small number of illegal immigrants and a very small proportion of those are working right?
Tony Blair must be practically crying with joy right now.
What some ppl fail to grasp is this will be used eventually to track everything you do, limit your movement, limit your spending and give you a ration card of carbon credits that limits your freedom to do anything.
See China social credit score for one we made earlier.
Totalitarian despots want you living hand to mouth with whip in hand if you want to complain.
Its all fun and games until the system gets hacked and everyone’s data is leaked.
Authoritarian, where are your papers vibes. Sure it’ll start with “illegal immigrants” but if you think the government won’t eventually use their new found powers on you then read a history book.
You’ll prob need to submit digital id to use services such as reddit Gmail whatever which is a complete invasion of privacy and not a good thing
Nothing has ever gone wrong with digital stuff before, it’ll be great.
How the ever loving feck will that stop the boats. An SA80 with stop the boats not a dystopian nightmare piece of plastic. Fuck Starmer. Fuck labour.
Labour have had a hard on for ID cards for decades. I’ve never understood why.
Labour, being Labour, will somehow fuck it up so it ens up being misused.
This has the potential to bring a lot of joined up government to work and to make life fairer and easier for UK citizens.
It also has the potential to drop everyone’s personal information right into the lap of the highest bidder. Or to provide unnecessary user access to my personal data like the Regulation of Investigatory Powers act did.
There needs to be sufficient regulation about what data is stored and what organisations are allowed access to what type of data.
Ideally this should be an internal [gov.uk](http://gov.uk) IT project and not given to Fujitsu, Palantir, HP et al.
Have something like this called SingPass here in Singapore. Great for logging into official stuff when needed. Just use the app to scan the SingPass login QR code, authenticate with your finger print and then you’re in.
The cards aren’t the problem. I have lots of forms of ID and a tracking device on me most of the time in the form of a mobile phone.
My problem would be if there were a requirement to have it on you when in public. If I’m just going about my lawful business then I’ve no reason to prove my identity to anyone (outside of specific legal arrangements).
We already have passports and driving licences, this is pretty much a non-event.
As much as I don’t trust this government with anything to do with the internet, and think they have an Orwellian approach to our online freedoms – it’ll be nice to finally not have to carry a wallet everywhere.
The only reason I still have one is on the off chance I get ID’d buying vapes and alcohol, the rest of the time I just use my apple wallet.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist or anything but I won’t be having one of these. Compulsory or not, I’m not going to download one to my phone because I don’t need it. The government already know who I am.
They’re not going to stop small boat crossings either.
What am I missing, we have passports already, why not make them required and digital?
There are so many questions that need to be answered.
Where are they getting the data from in order to make this? How do you verify people are using their own ID? How do you stop illegal immigrants renting IDs like they already do? How easy will it be to update your information? Does this not infringe GDPR’s right to erasure?
So it’s mandatory and we have to pay for it? Cheers Keith, yet another useless expense on top of everything else.
What if you don’t have or want a digital footprint or have no access to technology.
You’ll be amazed to learn that there’s an entire generation who don’t have a mobile phone, computer or any means of accessing the online world.
Is this meant to serve any purpose or fix a problem we currently have?
Had one when I worked in Singapore. It’s perfectly fine and 100% the right move which we should have done years ago!
I’ve spent more time chasing the fucking council for a paper with my name on than I care to think.
It’s 2025. Give me a free digital ID that means I don’t need to fuck around.
Where it stop is where the police are able to mandate I show them it. That’s not happening
Will certainly make for very entertaining LBC call-ins with all the anti-vax/cash only/SovCit lot getting enraged on the airwaves.
what will be the punishment for people who refuse? if its going to be mandatory whats stopping me from just destroying all my tech and become a luddite? if thats the cost for freedom im sure at least some people will join in