Wir dürfen die Schießerei von Charlie Kirk nicht zu Trumps Reichstagsfeuer werden lassen Beachten Sie aus der europäischen Geschichte: Dies könnte der Vorwand für die Unterdrückung der politischen Gegner des US -Präsidenten sein

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/17/shooting-charlie-kirk-donald-trump-reichstag-fire-european-history-us-president

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    1. It’s not the Reichstag fire „yet“.

      It’s closer to the assassination of Horst Wessel

      [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Wessel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Wessel)

      But if he follows the trajectory, then there will be the banning of media and books that don’t follow his narrative. The selection of incompetent sycophants to powerful positions. The release of convicted criminals for political reasons. The deployment of armed troops against the civilian population. Then the focus of blame onto minorities who can’t defend themselves.

      Oh my mistake…he’s done that.

      Ok….just the fire to come.

    2. Academic-Key2 on

      He has said he wants to do it, he is accelerating prosecution of his enemies and getting retribution. 

      I think between the celebrations of his fake death when he disappeared, and the absolutely absurd situation of a pro MAGA gun advocate being shot whilst defending guns, Trump has got zero reason to not try force this home. 

      CK’s death has been a blessing for him, distracts from Epstein and unites the right back under the pedophile gang ready to murder people who have wanted gun reforms for decades (for a crime that occurred due to terrible gun/mental health policy). 

    3. MrPantsyFlants on

      Too many Americans have been molded into anti-education zealots. They will not learn from a history they don’t know and never will. If it didn’t allegedly happen at the Alamo or if it isn’t a fable about one of the founding fathers, they have no clue. A country so powerful should not be filled with so many ignorant people. It must drive their smart folks crazy. I am just a dumbass Canadian that happened to pay attention in history class so from my perspective, we have Nazi’s in charge to the south. And if they’re not Nazi’s, explain how they are actually different than the MAGA folks.

    4. Waffle-Wiggle on

      I can’t believe we’re letting this cycle continue, like it’s some messed up rerun nobody asked for. The politicization of shootings is BS.

    5. SaucyCakess on

      Comparin‘ Charlie Kirk to the Reichstag fire… might be stretchin‘ it a bit.

    6. LickAndMortar on

      Y’all think this is just alarmist or nah? Bc history’s shown us what ignoring these signs can lead to. Gotta keep our eyes wide open here, history doesn’t just rhyme, sometimes it repeats.

    7. True_Let_2007 on

      We should not let us be confused; whist condemning any form of political and non political violence an obviously disapproving Charly Kirk killing we should not make him „a Saint“ or a martyr. He was, by all means an extremist, a racist and an instigator to the very same violence which he ended up victim of. The way POTUS and MAGA try to make him a martyr makes me sick. The socio-political route which the US is undergoing under this presidency makes me highly concerned…

    8. KommissarKrokette on

      We must not be Franz von Papen or Chamberlain! We do not appease tyrants, nor do we leave them in office. Impeach Trump.

    9. KrasnovPlaysTheHits on

      >*“But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.*

      >*“And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.“*

      [They Thought They Were Free](https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.htm)

    10. Elon_is_a_Nazi on

      Funny his own domestic terrorists are the ones doing the killings, yet his supporters are so mentally challenged they’ll believe the left did it. Doesnt matter in the United States what the facts are with any political violence. The Trump Propaganda and lie machine spins it so it’ll support his hostile military takeover of more American cities and allow his dictator unconstitutional attack on our rights. What’s not funny is how his legion of 77 million domestic terrorists are foaming at mouth to see our constitution get shit on. They’re actually applauding losing crucial rights

    11. Imsorrywhatnoway on

      Americans need to wake the fuck up. „Let’s not let…“ is rich considering democratic leaders have rolled over to everything happening. There is no real revolt. Americans apparently have not experienced real struggles in life to motivate them to do something because they seem to have too much to lose personally to take on the fight.

      Everyone in the rest of the world is suffering the consequences but this is your battle. Do better.

    12. MissionCreeper on

      Inoculating us to gun violence generally was a bad move on their part, then, wasn’t it?  I stopped having an emotional reaction to gun violence since Sandy Hook.  People simply won’t be able to hold on to the rage for this.

    13. podkayne3000 on

      This isn’t that kind of incident. The Russians just wanted that kind of incident, and this is the best thing they had, so they ran with it.

    14. Whether you compare it to the Reichstag fire, or to the assassination of Horst Wessel, it’s clear that Trump and his Lackeys will use this to repress dissent by the use of force. The big question is how must we respond.

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