EU ministers have agreed on the digital euro as an alternative to American Visa and Mastercard.
Could be introduced as early as next year.
Also The completion of the Capital Market Union is going ahead within the ECB and EU Commission successive bilateral meetings, that would pave the way for the Fiscal Union. Further integration would add €3,5 trillion in value every year.
NoodleKnight46 on
Tbh, ‚bout time Europe stepped up to bat. Crypto’s the future, no doubts there. US been hoggin‘ the spotlight too long IMO. My hot take: Let’s brace ourselves for some real digital currency competition, folks! Oh, and btw, if u miss this train, ur on ur own.
ObviouslyTriggered on
How about you just build a normal payment network.
Thank yuou.
J-96788-EU on
Is Roadmap working fine? Feels like a Roadmap will challenge them.
Minkipunk on
There’s a lot of talk about it but I have never seen any technical specifications for it. Does someone have more insight?
How is it *actually* going to work, to pass money to someone without being able to duplicate it in the process. If I’m not mistaken one requirement for the digital euro is also that it works offline and anonymously, just like the physical euro.
IdleAllex25 on
Not trusting after seeing many of the issues, especially privacy, and considering their current bs with chat control I wouldn’t be surprised if they want digital euro for better control of the population, some of the issues that are listed on wikipedia
I was pretty fine with it, till I remembered chat control and realized that this is EU we are talking about.. There’s no way they are doing this with no hidden motives..
DramaticSimple4315 on
I can somewhat understand the desperate push from Visa & Mastercard against this, this must mean a massive loss of revenue for them – they have basically been milking an economic rent for decades.
But the risks in outsourcing parts of our monetary sovereignty to the US – be it through simple bank transactions or the insidious logic of US treseaury backed stablecoins are getting just too serious.
Ohr_Ein_Sof_ on
El oh el
Imagine giving somebody like Orban full access to the ledger of all transactions a Hungarian makes.
After giving him access to all messages exchanged.
The EU is truly a totalitarian corrupt shitshow.
The UK was so lucky to get the out of that geriatric club of bureaucrats.
TheoryOfDevolution on
A roadmap doesn’t mean anything.
Blubbolo on
Bonus point is Visa and Mastercard won’t be able to dictate what you use your money for nor ban games and stuff they don’t like.
Hope the dildo of consequences arrives soon unlubed.
Dotcaprachiappa on
The russian troll farms are doing overtime in this comment section
SciFiShroom on
correct me if i’m wrong but this is great news, right? i’m amazed that in the year of our Lord 2025 we _still_ rely on the americans for this kind of stuff. like, come on. we can do this, no??
redeyedbiker on
I’m surprised by the support for this here.
Central Bank Digital Currencies are NOT a good idea. All of the downsides of Fiat currency, with all the downsides of digital based payment systems.
Lets see what the Bank of International Settlements thinks of this;
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EU ministers have agreed on the digital euro as an alternative to American Visa and Mastercard.
Could be introduced as early as next year.
Also The completion of the Capital Market Union is going ahead within the ECB and EU Commission successive bilateral meetings, that would pave the way for the Fiscal Union. Further integration would add €3,5 trillion in value every year.
Tbh, ‚bout time Europe stepped up to bat. Crypto’s the future, no doubts there. US been hoggin‘ the spotlight too long IMO. My hot take: Let’s brace ourselves for some real digital currency competition, folks! Oh, and btw, if u miss this train, ur on ur own.
How about you just build a normal payment network.
Thank yuou.
Is Roadmap working fine? Feels like a Roadmap will challenge them.
There’s a lot of talk about it but I have never seen any technical specifications for it. Does someone have more insight?
How is it *actually* going to work, to pass money to someone without being able to duplicate it in the process. If I’m not mistaken one requirement for the digital euro is also that it works offline and anonymously, just like the physical euro.
Not trusting after seeing many of the issues, especially privacy, and considering their current bs with chat control I wouldn’t be surprised if they want digital euro for better control of the population, some of the issues that are listed on wikipedia
* Increased centralisation and [central planning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_planning) of [monetary policy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroeconomics#Monetary_policy)
* Loss of [privacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy)
* Risk of [financial censorship](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_censorship) and loss of human rights
* Hacking and information security issues
* Higher risks of loss of central bank independence and political influence on [monetary policy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroeconomics#Monetary_policy)
* Potential for much faster transmission of bad [monetary policy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroeconomics#Monetary_policy)
* Risks to banking system of bank runs towards CBDC
* Distribution fairness issues ([Cantillon effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantillon_Effect))
* Higher political control of individual spending and saving
* Weakened [Property Rights](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Property_rights)
I was pretty fine with it, till I remembered chat control and realized that this is EU we are talking about.. There’s no way they are doing this with no hidden motives..
I can somewhat understand the desperate push from Visa & Mastercard against this, this must mean a massive loss of revenue for them – they have basically been milking an economic rent for decades.
But the risks in outsourcing parts of our monetary sovereignty to the US – be it through simple bank transactions or the insidious logic of US treseaury backed stablecoins are getting just too serious.
El oh el
Imagine giving somebody like Orban full access to the ledger of all transactions a Hungarian makes.
After giving him access to all messages exchanged.
The EU is truly a totalitarian corrupt shitshow.
The UK was so lucky to get the out of that geriatric club of bureaucrats.
A roadmap doesn’t mean anything.
Bonus point is Visa and Mastercard won’t be able to dictate what you use your money for nor ban games and stuff they don’t like.
Hope the dildo of consequences arrives soon unlubed.
The russian troll farms are doing overtime in this comment section
correct me if i’m wrong but this is great news, right? i’m amazed that in the year of our Lord 2025 we _still_ rely on the americans for this kind of stuff. like, come on. we can do this, no??
I’m surprised by the support for this here.
Central Bank Digital Currencies are NOT a good idea. All of the downsides of Fiat currency, with all the downsides of digital based payment systems.
Lets see what the Bank of International Settlements thinks of this;
https://youtu.be/rpNnTuK5JJU?si=6wS7KJqcvy22bFsQ
Well, that doesn’t sound good. Money thay can expire and that can only be spent where and when the central bank decides.
Financial tyranny
Great, visa and mastercard have become shit, it’s time for a proper alternative