I can’t read the article. What are the other options that they do support?
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Well no one asked me. I support a 2 State solution theoretically, I just don’t think it would work.. maybe a 3 state might work better, considering the West Bank and Gaza aren’t exactly friends with each other anyway.
It still won’t work if you’ve got an Israeli government that pushes everyone’s buttons and Iran funding proxies to stir shit up.
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> Analysts at the institute said: “This is a dramatic change of faith by British Jews in a proposal that has been the bedrock of Western policy on Israel-Palestine for decades. While we cannot know for sure, we can hypothesise that the sheer brutality of the October 7 attacks shattered many British Jews’ belief in the idea that Israel could possibly live alongside an independent Palestinian state in the near future. Many British Jews now appear to believe that the security risks to Israel are simply too great.”
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It won’t work if the Arab side never agree to it, as they have refused to do any of the times in the past. So the whole thing is a bit moot until they (both sides) are willing to do that.
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cozywit on
How would a two state solution help the Arab world keep the hate up on Israel?
It won’t. Think about it.
veerKg_CSS_Geologist on
When push comes to shove, it turns out it was always a lie.
Mikolaj_Kopernik on
The two-state solution looks like a fantasy at this point. There’s no contiguous territory, with something like half a million heavily-armed religious fanatics occupying the West Bank and Israel just approved another huge settlement expansion – [with the explicit goal of preventing a Palestinian state](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1j5954edlno). Does anybody believe they’d just… leave peacefully (even if Israel miraculously purged all the ethnic cleansing enthusiasts from parliament and negotiated a deal in good faith)? Or that the IDF would force them out? The West needs to seriously re-evaluate what it’s even asking for here (let alone its relationship with Israel).
Drab_Majesty on
A two state solution would never work, it needs to be a unitary democratic state, universal citizenship with equal rights.
mayasux on
As long as one of the two states exists with unwavering support from the global hegemony and its arms, it will always be a doomed concept. At this point in time, we’ve been doing two state for nearly 80 years. Even without the radicalisation of being bombed daily in Gaza, the West Bank proves that Israel can not be trusted to respect a second state. The insistence of it comes at the cost of Palestinian lives – which of course is an acceptable cost since they’re largely Muslim. The promotion of it is the demand that the bloodied status quo continues on, that babies are thrown into a grinder daily.
The idea our countries strive for a two state solution whilst not doing the bare minimum against Israel is laughable.
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Neither do the Palestinians, and this has been going on for quite a while.
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I can’t read the article. What are the other options that they do support?
Well no one asked me. I support a 2 State solution theoretically, I just don’t think it would work.. maybe a 3 state might work better, considering the West Bank and Gaza aren’t exactly friends with each other anyway.
It still won’t work if you’ve got an Israeli government that pushes everyone’s buttons and Iran funding proxies to stir shit up.
> Analysts at the institute said: “This is a dramatic change of faith by British Jews in a proposal that has been the bedrock of Western policy on Israel-Palestine for decades. While we cannot know for sure, we can hypothesise that the sheer brutality of the October 7 attacks shattered many British Jews’ belief in the idea that Israel could possibly live alongside an independent Palestinian state in the near future. Many British Jews now appear to believe that the security risks to Israel are simply too great.”
It won’t work if the Arab side never agree to it, as they have refused to do any of the times in the past. So the whole thing is a bit moot until they (both sides) are willing to do that.
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How would a two state solution help the Arab world keep the hate up on Israel?
It won’t. Think about it.
When push comes to shove, it turns out it was always a lie.
The two-state solution looks like a fantasy at this point. There’s no contiguous territory, with something like half a million heavily-armed religious fanatics occupying the West Bank and Israel just approved another huge settlement expansion – [with the explicit goal of preventing a Palestinian state](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1j5954edlno). Does anybody believe they’d just… leave peacefully (even if Israel miraculously purged all the ethnic cleansing enthusiasts from parliament and negotiated a deal in good faith)? Or that the IDF would force them out? The West needs to seriously re-evaluate what it’s even asking for here (let alone its relationship with Israel).
A two state solution would never work, it needs to be a unitary democratic state, universal citizenship with equal rights.
As long as one of the two states exists with unwavering support from the global hegemony and its arms, it will always be a doomed concept. At this point in time, we’ve been doing two state for nearly 80 years. Even without the radicalisation of being bombed daily in Gaza, the West Bank proves that Israel can not be trusted to respect a second state. The insistence of it comes at the cost of Palestinian lives – which of course is an acceptable cost since they’re largely Muslim. The promotion of it is the demand that the bloodied status quo continues on, that babies are thrown into a grinder daily.
The idea our countries strive for a two state solution whilst not doing the bare minimum against Israel is laughable.
Neither do the Palestinians, and this has been going on for quite a while.