In einem neuen Bericht wird Chinas Weltraumprogramm bald dem der USA entsprechen und es in den nächsten fünf bis zehn Jahren überholen, „wenn wir nichts tun“
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/09/a-new-report-finds-chinas-space-program-will-soon-equal-that-of-the-us/?utm_campaign=dhtwitter&utm_content=%3Cmedia_url%3E&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
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I don’t care which country’s space program is the best, I just want as much new information/discoveries about space as possible.
A little misinformation here, a little disinformation there, a few bots to amplify: voila, a country willingly cedes it’s position on the world stage.
Congrats, China, I bet you didn’t think it’d be this easy.
If China has the political will and engineering prowess to build space stations, explore the Moon, Mars and beyond… Good for them!
Announcer: they, in fact, did not do something.
If you compare state efforts, it may be true.
BUT!! You dont take into account that in the U.S. innovation doesnt primarily come from the state (as in China). Putting together all the private efforts that the U.S. have plus NASA, they are years ahead of China.
If you are only comparing NASA agains CNSA, then the article may hold true.
The U.S. is the only country in the world with a profitable space company. This kind of commercial viability gives it a lot of advantage.
The White House: Let’s cut the NASA budget by 20%. That’ll show them.
Clearly, the US sees keeping its mass shootings high as a bigger priority than space and renewable energy.
BTW, China is already well ahead of US on renewable energy because US still thinks that coal is the way of the future apparently.
Sorry, we’re kinda busy shooting missiles at boats leaving <checks notes> Venezuela.
It’s embarrassing being an American right now.
{Looks at current US administration} Yeah, we’re not going to win this.
A decaying empire and a new power developing science at an amazing pace, it’s like movie.
Republicans are more interested in undoing everything instead of doing anything.
spaceforce is doing absolutely nothing 😀 so much winning!
China is praying that Trump gets third and fourth terms.
Let’s be honest… Under Trump America is no longer the superpower it once was and everyone knows it….. That’s why Putin has behaved the way he has and Japan has told Trump they’re not upping tariffs on China and to stick his tariffs up his arse.
Firefly the TV show predicted it. Everyone will have to speak Chinese in space!
The US just laid off a bunch of NASA folks and cut the funding. Meanwhile the US government has declared war on our major STEM universities and even K-12 education. And Artemis is behind schedule and likely falling further behind.
Meanwhile, Europe is busy dealing with the looming threat of Russia, which is exacerbated by China. This competition is over and China will win.
The damage is already done, this ship sailed like 6 months ago. Thousands of NASA employees & contractors have been fired, left for other jobs, or retired much earlier than they would have. The vast majority will not come back even if funding is restored. China and ESA will overtake NASA in very short order.
Good thing we built a ballroom!
🎶 Dancing in the moonlight 🎶 💃🏼🕺🏼
Well GG china here are the keys to space innovation world learder position
They have their own space station. They have a mars lander. I’d say they are pretty close.
Nothing can be done if the way things work in this country don’t change. This isn’t unique to NASA or the space program. Everything takes *forever*. Especially anything run by the government or funded by the government. Roads take forever to build, rail forever, everything. And the cost for everything has become so huge.
When you combine that with a political system that doesn’t allow for consistent, achievable goals, the ending is not well. I.e. different presidents and different Congresses have different ideas.
An [executive order](https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/further-exclusions-from-the-federal-labor-management-relations-program/) from Aug 28, 2025 made a change to NASA (& NOAA & TWS) to enhance the national security of the United States, it is ordered to have as a primary function of intelligence, counterintelligence, investigative, or national security work.
Of course we’re going to lose. 🤣
We *are* doing something. We’re getting rid of NASA. By removing all public funding, we encourage the amazing potential of capitalism, and private companies. As soon as NASA is no longer a threat to their profit margins, we will see dozens of space-age companies popping up and rocket launching us to the moon, and beyond. Those companies will naturally compete with each other over those available profits, driving massive innovation. We’ll see a colony on Mars in less time than it takes to get there!
Oh
And in case it’s needed
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It is a good thing then that the president just reclassified NASA as a spy agency, and then asked to have every mission with the word ‚climate‘ in it to be outright cancelled, no matter the project complete percentage. /sigh
People worry about China on the Moon, but the U.S. space program is far from stagnant. SpaceX is literally working toward a sustained habitat on Mars . That’s not theory, that’s funded rockets and test flights happening now. So while China may push for a foothold on the Moon, U.S. ambitions are still larger in scope. The real conversation isn’t who touches down first, but who sustains presence and writes the rules for resources and long term infrastructure.
The something we’re doing is actively conceding not just to China but the entire world.
The century of humiliation has lit a real fire under China’s arse.
As long as one group of humans keeps reaching for the stars, I don’t care who it is.
Baby, you just focus on you don’t worry about what China be doing.
We cant even figure out vaccines and abortion rights, or solar and nuclear. And you wanna worry about space?
Cutting its funding, removing all personnel that dont have MAGA viewpoints, creating „Space Force“ and focussing on weaponising NASA over it being a scientific organisation is pretty much gonna end its progression as an entity.
I won’t mind if we can get more hubbles and webbs in space from China.
Getting to space through capitalism is one of the dumber ideas I have heard of in 2 generations.
The US doesn’t have a space program anymore, they just announced that NASA is now officially a spy organization.
I assume by ‚do something‘ that doesn’t include cutting funding, selling off assets, dismantling projects and selling off to private enterprises?
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
|Fewer Letters|More Letters|
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|[CNSA](/r/Space/comments/1ninmd2/stub/nekbjdr „Last usage“)|Chinese National Space Administration|
|[ESA](/r/Space/comments/1ninmd2/stub/nekbjdr „Last usage“)|European Space Agency|
|[ITAR](/r/Space/comments/1ninmd2/stub/nek8iql „Last usage“)|(US) International Traffic in Arms Regulations|
|[LEO](/r/Space/comments/1ninmd2/stub/nekg7y2 „Last usage“)|Low Earth Orbit (180-2000km)|
| |Law Enforcement Officer (most often mentioned during transport operations)|
|[NOAA](/r/Space/comments/1ninmd2/stub/neka6o5 „Last usage“)|National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, responsible for US ~~generation~~ monitoring of the climate|
|[SLS](/r/Space/comments/1ninmd2/stub/nekinza „Last usage“)|Space Launch System heavy-lift|
|[SRB](/r/Space/comments/1ninmd2/stub/nekinza „Last usage“)|Solid Rocket Booster|
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“…if we don’t do something.”
*Shows an image of a clear rip-off of SpaceX’s Starship.*
And SpaceX is just one of several US companies currently pouring billions into developing next generation rockets.
China is trying to emulate what the US already has. The US is currently walking away with space dominance, China is barely avoiding falling behind.
All my life the west has been obsessed with staying ahead of China and worrying about their rapid advancement. Then 2025 hit and apparently we just completely gave up. Well, good luck to them, I hope they win the new space race and everything else.
What space program? Didn’t he Cheeto defund NASA but also declare them terrorist or some sillyness
But the US won’t, and if it decided to, the people who are in charge are no longer as competent.