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    1. DeepFuckingKoopa on

      I still don’t know what it means and I don’t plan on learning. They should really figure out how to stop white on white crime in their communities

    2. They don’t want to acknowledge the real problem because it means they would have to be a parent and talk to their sons.

      A lot of these boys go ignored by their parents.

    3. Clearing_Fog on

      Some of us are already all too familiar with the Groyper wars, and wish we weren’t (some of us have been following those weirdos since before the insurrection).

      I don’t understand why everyone is pushing so hard to claim the shooter was a Groyper. The evidence for that is not nearly as strong as people are making it out to be.

      I think a lot of people are going to have egg on their face when this is done.

      It would be much better if we tried to focus the conversation on the way isolated boys and young men are getting radicalized online. That would actually be a constructive conversation, and wouldn’t depend on which “side” the shooter is on. We’ve needed that conversation to happen for years now, and we are missing an opportunity to talk about it.

    4. >*I suspect that, to Fuentes, who turned 25 last month, the “other side” is no longer liberal Democrats. It’s not antifa. ​Maybe it’s Kirk’s grieving followers. Maybe it’s others he’s condemned—pro-Israel politicians or* [*Republicans covering for Jeffrey Epstein*](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/podcaster-nick-fuentes-heated-remark-212228533.html)*. Lately, politics in the United States seems less polarized than disintegrated.*

      There may be lots of wisdom in that last sentence. In any case, it’s what I oft seem to be experiencing.

    5. Look at this article h[ere](https://freebeacon.com/politics/exclusive-fbi-investigating-social-media-accounts-that-appeared-to-indicate-foreknowledge-of-kirk-assassination/)Several of the accounts under investigation appear to be associated with LGBT subcultures. One individual, „Osamu bin Tezuka,“ used the X handle „@nnnnincel,“ a reference to a genre of anime that depicts romantic relationships between men.

      I blocked the actual @ but a typical LGBQT person is not also an incel. What the investigation seems to be misunderstanding is Groypers use progressive, LGBQT, BLM and other marginalized groups keywords to avoid algorithm detection.

    6. How the hell is a 25 year old contributing in a meaningful way to our politics ? Strange as hell

    7. MirthandMystery on

      These were young teens and young 20somethings when Trump first ran and held office, more prominent on Twitter or 4Chan, spread Pepe the frog and red Pill memes, were mostly male, lived at home, some identified as incels, most had no social skills, had problems with women and childish awkward sexist attitudes, many were gamers, some influenced by gamer gate, didn’t have jobs or had lousy ones they hated and spent whatever cash they could raise in trading meme stocks and obsessed about crypto. All loved Elon Musk. Many self radicalized slowly simply by spending a huge amount of time online sh*tposting initially (anti Hillary memes etc), then got totally sucked into an alt right world of insanity on every level. Gab became their new home when kicked off pre-Elon Twitter or Facebook.. then some joined Truth Social when Trump released it, saying he wanted a site where „free speech“ was protected and libs couldn’t „silence conservative voices“ then went back to Twitter now rebranded as X, made to be a simple model of Elons technocratic + crypto fantasy prototype.

      The rest leads right up to last year where everything was blooming fast like a cancerous cell.

      Early on it was easy to see them all online, playing around without restraint or rules, a type of anonymous male bonding on a grand scale, who self radicalized during Trumps first term, and were dangerously influenced by foreign created or amplified disinformation and crap boosted by bots and key influencers. Then they got hooked on Livestreamers who kept upping the gags and campaigns for attention- especially after being able to monetize it. By the Jan 6 Capitol attack when Republicans post election simmering rage exploded after having lost, you can see who took it to the next level and became vicious, organizers, starting to attack ‚their own‘ for not being extreme enough, being too supportive of old Trumpers, Jewish and Israeli causes, et c.

      So it’s not just MAGA and Trump vs dull old school Republicans, it became groypers attacking MAGA, Trump, Republicans *and* Dems, vying for more power now they have have a taste of meme mob influence and have a little money (from trading meme stocks and crypto) making them feel smart and invincible. They still think this online fantasy world is the real world, seemingly unable or unwilling to step into the actual real world, grow into being adults, merging with the rest of us, taking on responsibilities and doing hard work instead of craving or fighting for power, influence and money.

      On Twitter I mused (warned people) of it in 2016 and 2017.. how those seeds Trump et c planted would grow into toxic weeds. How do you de-radicalize them now? They never knew what normal was and still crave crazy entertainment.. have no respect for a boring, functioning government run by *adults* who need to be held accountable, won’t abuse their position of authority to just enrich themselves or start domestic wars or incite fights, and refuse to sell out their country.

    8. mAssEffectdriven on

      Conservatives constantly drag us through the most meaningless conversations. I cant wait for the day that society just realizes theyre not here to build anything and just leaves them out of any and all decisionmaking.

    9. The real question is why no one knows what accelerationists are, or even that the term exists. Spoiler alert, a lot of mass shooting events, power grids getting destroyed, and most inner terrorism within the states are caused by accelerationists.

    10. NotYetUtopian on

      According to Trump totalitarians are not American and we should retract their citizenship.

    11. metalsniper8 on

      search in YouTube groypers war 2, that’s all i have to see to know what’s going on about that

    12. If you want to loose faith in humanity go ahead and research it. After looking into it, I am now the most cynical I have ever been in my life and I hate it.

    13. ATLfalcons27 on

      I don’t think normal people can truly understand weird ass internet subculture

      I’ve tried explaining infinitely more basic stuff about Internet subculture to my parents and it’s like an alien language

    14. Cimmerian_Barbarian on

      Entitled assholes arguing over bullshit they have no real world experience in. Now they’re shooting each other like video games. Grow up and go fuck yourselves in your dick hole.

    15. Nick Fuentes put out a video a few days ago telling his followers not to murder people. That’s not who the Groypers are apparently. It’s obvious the Groyper wars were a big motivation for the shooter, although I think being terminally online had a lot to do with him being out of touch with reality and taking it to irl.

    16. jertheman43 on

      Shining a light into the darkness exposes the threats. We should all learn about these black pill incels.

    17. Do we really need to be able to distinguish between the different brands of alt-right crazies? If they’re killing each other, we could just leave them to it, right?

    18. What seems more plausible?

      That Kirk would be killed by a follower of the Goyper movement which has spent the last 5 years or so that specifically targeted him by name?

      Or by the left who mostly ignored him when he wasn’t on their campus.

      Kirk went to a ton of super lefty campuses, said purposefully incendiary things and never had an incident. He goes to a super conservative campus and gets shot.

    19. BitchesGetStitches on

      They’re just Nazis. We know about them already changing the name doesn’t change who they are and why we should fight them by any means necessary.

    20. account_for_norm on

      I m not even a boomer, and pretty active when it cokes internet and all.

      Even i dont fuckin know what this grouper is

    21. Ordinary_Detail_132 on

      This is all batshit crazy. I want to go to work, clean my house, be with my darling, cook dinner, and think about markets and hoping for peace. I want REGULAR LIFE. Watch some fuckin Hell’s Kitchen and cook some fun recipes, and go to bed. Read some news on Reddit, then get absolutely giggled out by r/startledcats.

      This is what most Americans want. Fucking peace, happiness, the right to say how we feel, and to goddamn think about what we are gonna bbq this weekend.

      Whatever this shit is, is really sad.

    22. Professional_Row_307 on

      if you want to know what a groyper is and why ot matches the killer google and i warn you. „catboykami“ if you look at his „encyclopedia dramatica“ page you can clearly see the similarities between the shooters words and the groypers. For further context there’s also „garfield groyper“ killer had a garfield pfp on discord.

    23. The dominant media outlaws are avoiding the groyper topic like it’s their anathema. We’ll never have a real discussion the Groyper Army until someone with authority actually says it.

    24. THE_CENTURION on

      I really could have happily gone my whole life never hearing the word groyper. Literally the worst word I’ve ever heard.

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