UN-Versammlungsstimmen überwältigend, um die zweistaatliche Lösung in israel-palästinensischen Konflikten zu unterstützen
https://www.nbcnews.com/world/israel/un-assembly-votes-overwhelmingly-back-two-state-solution-israel-palest-rcna230942
UN-Versammlungsstimmen überwältigend, um die zweistaatliche Lösung in israel-palästinensischen Konflikten zu unterstützen
https://www.nbcnews.com/world/israel/un-assembly-votes-overwhelmingly-back-two-state-solution-israel-palest-rcna230942
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and who exactly is going to enforce it? and will they get rid of the literal terrorist orgs operating there? will people condemn them when they happen to kill a civilian when fighting these terrorists? I’m all for a 2 state solution, but first the terrorists in palestine need to be removed from the equation. it needs to be based on two governing bodies that neither side is seeking the complete destruction of the other, otherwise we’ll just be right back here after one side attacks the other if not.
the sad fact is palestine needs an occupation similar to germany or japan post ww2 to remove the deep rooted radicalization that has happened to a decent chunk of the populace, after which peace in the region could become a possibility, israel has decent relations with jordan after all, they just don’t seek the complete destruction of their state (at least, anymore). the problem is who do you get to do the occupation? israel is a bad choice for obvious reasons, and no one else seems interested.
Passing by vote is the easy part. Executing it to reality is not going to be easy to say the least.
And which country is willing to lead that will lay the foundation and recovery?
Wow it’s like I have reading the same headline for the last 20 years
Is this same UN that was supposed to keep the peace in southern Lebanon?
Realistically, a three state solution is needed as Gaza and the West Bank can never function as a singular state with Israel (and lots and lots of barriers and land mines ) in-between
Gaza needs to be it’s own nation or annexed by Israel/Egypt. Having it be the same country as the West Bank means a Palestine state could never hope to have enough stability to function. It’s in many ways worse than East Pakistan and West Pakistan (Bangladesh).
Perhaps I’m mistaken, but hasn’t the UN voted on Palestinian statehood in the past that usually passes in the General Assembly? What makes this one different?
There are multiple problems that I see with the resolution.
1. It declares that the Palestinian Authority will be the governing authority. However, the PA is immensely unpopular in Gaza AND in the West Bank. The PA refuses to hold elections because they will lose. How does the UN intend for the PA to lead?
2. Is Hamas willing to remove itself from power and turn over their weapons? What if the people prefer Hamas of PA (which polls overwhelming show that they do)?
3. Israel clearly has no intention of a Palestinian state. Are other countries willing to go to war with Israel to force them out of Gaza and force the illegal settlers out of the West Bank? Given the US staunch defense of Israel, are they willing to risk conflict with the US (especially under the Trump admin which wholly supports forcing Palestinians out of Gaza)?
I feel like this is a Michael Scott situation of „We Declare Peace“.
Personally, I would prefer if the Arab League got far more heavily involved in Gaza and the West Bank. They all closed borders to Palestine years ago and don’t want Palestinians in their countries, but are highly critical of Israel. I would like the Arab league to put their money where their mouth is. Open their borders, offer support, and establish a deal with Israel where Israeli troops pull out and are replaced with Arab League troops on the border.
I think a better option would be for the UN to declare all Palestinians as Israeli citizens the moment their land is annexed and declare all Israeli passports invalid until these new citizens are granted equal rights.
Plenty of people are going to slag me about this proposal from both sides and I don’t care. I have been watching this nightmare my entire life and it is quite obvious to me that neither side has any intention of ever solving this through violence or negotiation.
One of the most revealing conversations I ever had was with a group of people exploring conflict resolution through the first step of accepting that the other sides opinions are valid and I was expressing my opinion about Israel and the Palestinians and this big fat guy said „Your facts are all wrong“ and I said „There wasn’t a single thing I said that was a fact, it was all just opinion and people like you on both sides who conflate opinion with fact in order to impose your will without regard to what anyone else believes is the biggest reason there will never be a resolution between Israel and the Palestinians.“
I hear the Seattle teacher’s union also voted to back a two state solution. No one cares about that either.
Too bad neither the Israelis nor Palestinians support the idea.
Didn’t this happen 77 years ago?
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The same UN who have terrorist in their own roof?
Okkkkkkkk….i mean Israel has agreed multiple times to a two state deal. They got burned each time.
A two solution is great, but good luck applying it.
Last time I saw polling on this neither the Israelis nor Palestinians supported a two state solution. They’re both all-in, everything or nothing.
This is so absurd. Hamas was elected. Why is the UN trying to push for regime change? Did they ask the Gazans if this was cool with them? They hate the PA almost as much as Israel. This is exactly the colonial imperialism they so often preach against. It makes zero sense. Unless the UN is prepared to step in and forcefully govern this Palestinian state, it should stay the fuck out of the Middle East. Let the Arabs and Jews resolve their own shit. This conflict needs a decisive conclusion, not this wishy-washy bullshit that leads to another war in 5 years. Let the people who actually live in the region solve their own problems.
I dont understand my country. How can we support a two-state solution but refuse to recognize one of the twp states?
Sure thing, in France.
I’d have understood if I read this headline in the year 2000.
Sadly now, a two-state solution has never felt further away.
Does UN assembly actually have any power otherthan passing resolutions which are never going to be implemented in real world.
The UN is really great at saying things. Doing them, however…
Alright, are you all going to wage war against Israel and the US?
So now the Palestinians and Iranians will try to kill Israelis from inside an official state! Things are getting fancy!
Palestinians overwhelmingly reject a two-state solution, other countries need to stop trying to enforce their own worldview onto others
Almost all Palestenians are dead, displaced or will be permanently disabled both physically and mentally due to starvation.
So this isnt going to happen lol.
Bye bye Palestine!
The former British Mandate of Palestine is two states already. Israel and Jordan, a majority Jewish and a majority Palestinian state. The 2SS has already been implemented
They should vote to end the war in Ukraine next…
If only INRWA and UNFIL got the same memo and kept the peace.
At this stage I’m beginning to think that a zero state solution is preferable.