MSNBC feuert Analyst, der sagte, Charlie Kirk habe Hassreden vorangetrieben
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/11/us/matthew-dowd-charlie-kirk-msnbc-fired.html
MSNBC feuert Analyst, der sagte, Charlie Kirk habe Hassreden vorangetrieben
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/11/us/matthew-dowd-charlie-kirk-msnbc-fired.html
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The Media is not allowing criticism of Charles Kirk.
If Hitler died today US media outlets would only talk about how he was a good Christian family man who loved his wife and dog.
Fired him for telling the truth*
Murdering someone is never the answer but mainstream media really needs to stop. Kirk was a terrible person with divisive and racist rhetoric. Both things can be true.
If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024
If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022
Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023
If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024
If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023
Charlie Kirk (2023): „I think it’s worth to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the 2nd Amendment. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.“
He was OK with people dying in school shootings, he just didn’t think it would be him.
When news can’t handle the truth.
They are a joke! I would sue. Charlie Kirk constantly used hate language. [This is why people are torn.](https://substack.com/@thegreywire/note/p-173391257?r=6h5t7v&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action)
This is America.
This is some bullshit. That was literally CK’s job.
Fired for speaking the truth.
What has ‚media‘ become?
MSNBC and its radical left agenda /s
But he did?
yeah instead of summarizing it they should just repeat what kirk said verbatim. even better play the clips let it speak for itself
Ok. I am boycotting MSNBC until they bring this guy back.
Who is with me?
What a joke!
Mainstream media isn’t breathing a word about what a total piece of shit the guy was. No one is being allowed by their corporate masters to tell the truth. Someone unfamiliar with Charlie Kirk would think he was a combination of Mr. Rogers and the Pope. Matthew Dowd was interviewed very shortly after the story broke, apparently before the „thou shalt not tell the truth about Charlie“ memo went out. Horrible that he was fired and was forced to apologize for speaking candidly.
“But why is mainstream media dying?”
Your Liberal Media^TM at work folks.
It’s time for people to quit.
So others can lie all the time but truth gets punished. America sure got its priorities straight
The truth is a dangerous thing these days.
Fired for facts
Charlie Kirk was a racist, transphobic, homophobic, sexist piece of shit bigot.
He did not deserve to die and political violence is wrong, but I’m sure as shit not going to pretend like he was a saint. Fuck that guy.
Charlie Kirk pushed hate speech.
Sadly, Matthew Dowd spoke the truth.
In some other countries it would certainly be less acceptable and supported if you advocate stoning gays to death and want executions to be public with children forced to watch.
Fired for telling the truth.
Are we going to pretend now that everything Charlie Kirk said was perfectly acceptable?
Both side though, amirite?
What happened to free speech??
News has degraded to absolutel trash, trump has bulled them into yes men. So pathetic to see.
Charlie Kirk was a piece of shit. I don’t care what anyone else says about this.
He didn’t justify, glorify, or celebrate what happened. He simply said that when hate speech is peddled, bad things happen in a way that was unflinching. Meanwhile on Fox, they’re probably all giving high fives to Jesse Watters for saying MAGA will „Avenge“ this. Right Wing media rewards bald face liars and „left leaning“ corporate media fires people with the courage to speak uncomfortable truth.
man this is a joke
kirk wanted the paul pelosi hammer guy freed on bail, but people get fired for accurately describing Kirk as a hatemonger. I don’t get why the right-wing is angry and scared all the time, how can these guys see this one-sided speech enforcement and not get the message that the right-wing is always in control.
Charlie was a vile racist, spreading K.K.K. agendas to young people. It is not at all controversial for an analyst to talk about that in the media, even if Kirk was killed like this. That’s Charlie’s legacy, that’s the work he did, and it’s all on camera for anyone who doesn’t believe it about him. Hours and hours and hours of inhumane discrimination. He was an asshole, plain and simple. A smug, pompous dipshit
Fired for being truthful.
So you be fired for telling the truth
So is MSNBC saying Kirk didn’t use hate speech? Seriously?
Ok here are some quotes from Charlie Kirk for you and a [source ](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs)
„If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.“ – The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024
„If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?“ – The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022
„Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.“ – The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023
„If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because affirmative action?“ – The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024
„We record all of it so that we put [it] on the internet so people can see these ideas collide. When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence. That’s when civil war happens, because you start to think the other side is so evil, and they lose their humanity.“ – Kirk discussing his work in an undated clip that circulated on X after his killing.
„Prove me wrong.“ – Kirk’s challenge to students to publicly debate him during the tour of colleges he was on when he was assassinated.
„Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.“ – Discussing news of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement on The Charlie Kirk Show, 26 August 2025
„The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered.“ – Responding to a question about whether he would support his 10-year-old daughter aborting a pregnancy conceived because of rape on the debate show Surrounded, published on 8 September 2024
„We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately.“ – The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 April 2024
„I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.“ – Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023
„America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.“ – The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025
„The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white.“ – The Charlie Kirk Show, 20 March 2024
„The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.“ – The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 March 2024
„America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America.“ – The Charlie Kirk Show, 30 April 2025
„We’ve been warning about the rise of Islam on the show, to great amount of backlash. We don’t care, that’s what we do here. And we said that Islam is not compatible western civilization.“ – The Charlie Kirk Show, 24 June 2025
„There is no separation of church and state. It’s a fabrication, it’s a fiction, it’s not in the constitution. It’s made up by secular humanists.“ – The Charlie Kirk Show, 6 July 2022
James Baldwin, 1971: “What the world does to you, if the world does it to you long enough and effectively enough, you begin to do to yourself. You become a collaborator, an accomplice to your own murderers, because you believe the same things they do.” “This is not America”- This has been America since 1776. If the legend holds true, it was Crispus Attucks, a Black man, who was the first to die for the revolution. And after it was over and the British were defeated, America was kind enough to let all the Blacks who were enslaved (Attucks was a free man) stay that way. Oh, but you don’t have to look way back into those “ancient” times. Charlie Kirk was a supporter of the insurrection of January 6th, 2021. “There are hundreds of peaceful people that went into the Capitol on January 6. They did not touch a police officer. They didn’t smash a window, but they have been charged federally for trespassing and called insurrectionists for the rest of their life.” Capitol police officers were assaulted, maimed and some died in the aftermath. But the phrase Charlie’s folks often use is “back the blue”, right? “violence has no part in our political system”-straight capping! Out of our 46 presidents so far, four have been assassinated. John F. Kennedy, William McKinley, James Garfield and Abraham Lincoln, to be more precise. Ronald Reagan survived the assassination attempt by John Hinkley. Other presidents to also survive assassination attempts include Andrew Jackson, Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman and Gerald Ford. “This is not who we are”- Yes it is. Even when you look outside of presidents, any number of political figures have met their maker thanks to someone holding a gun. Civil rights activists like Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, and Fred Hampton. Senator Robert F Kennedy. Oh, and going way, way back, Secretary of Treasury Alexander Hamilton. (folks have seen the play, right?) “Guns have no place in America”- knock it off. Donald Trump survived an assassination attempt last year and not a single Republican voted to support meaningful gun-reform legislation. Not a single one. The killing of Charlie Kirk can rationally and morally be condemned. But the choice—and it is a choice—to simply look past the cosigning of violence he was responsible for is hypocritical. It’s more important to call these people out for what they were, regardless of the circumstances of their departure. Charlie Kirk was a bigot. Charlie Kirk was a misogynist. Charlie Kirk’s American dream is not mine. It never has been. It never will be. I don’t aspire to the aesthetic of a Charlie Kirk. In his ideal world, someone who looks like me isn’t supposed to be on equal footing with him. Kirk’s legacy is one of unashamed racial vitriol—underneath which is an existential fear at the gradual “browning” of America, belligerence disguised as folksy talk, and, yes, policy murder. It is not completely unpredictable that he met his fate in a way that he decried was no big deal. May he rest in peace, but damn—he could have at least cleaned up behind himself before he left.