This is what happens when Trump packs the FBI with incompetent idiots.
OSU1922 on
This is what happens when you fire the good agents over loyalty and hire a couple college drunks to steer the ship. Kash has made the whole process more difficult by muddying the water with incompetence.
papibigdaddy on
I feel bad for his kids, that’s about it.
He saw how his and his buddies‘ rhetoric has gotten us killed in Walmart, grocery stores, mosques, synagogues, churches and has led to an increase in hate crimes and people joining hate groups and kept fanning the flames. Shitting on MLK’s legacy and saying the Civil Rights Act was a mistake and claiming that structural inequality is really the product of defects in my culture and nothing more. I am not going to mourn a man who saw me as less than and told his followers that my community degrades this country. I feel bad for his children and the spectators who are all going to be scarred for life. I hope they punish the one who pulled the trigger only for law and order’s sake and nothing else.
PWL51 on
I wonder if he’s on a bus to D C
paxwells97 on
If there was ever a false flag…
Or our current government is truly incompetent
Notchibald_Johnson on
Change the agency name to the Department of Bad Ass Alpha Males.
Maybe that will help.
TheProcrastafarian on
They are frothing for this to be a trans POC. But, based on the video of the suspect, it looks like the shot came from a cracker barrel.
chucklefits on
The CIA can do that sometimes
Wrong_Confection1090 on
This entire case is fucked.
First off, I’m guessing there’s nobody who actually saw the shooter take the shot. Now, we might have footage of him climbing down off the roof, but that doesn’t prove he pulled the trigger, even if were were able to make out his face.
Next, in all the footage we’ve seen of him, he doesn’t have a long gun. I’ve heard it said that they think it was stuffed down his pants leg, to which I’d ask how exactly he managed to climb the steps up to where he needed to get onto the roof. This seems to be based off the fact that he was limping on the doorbell cameras, but I’d argue that he probably injured his leg jumping down off the roof. But it doesn’t matter: as far as I’m aware, there is no photo evidence that put the gun in the man’s hands.
They found a gun in a wooded area where they think the shooter probably fled, wrapped in a towel. Assuming he was as careful concealing the crime as he was in committing it, there will be no prints on that gun. In fact, I suspect if they had usable fingerprints, there’d have been a BOLO issued by now.
So that leaves DNA, which is a problem. DNA, if there is any, can put the gun in the shooter’s hands, but doesn’t prove he fired it, or when he held it.
I don’t know if they’ll ever find this guy. At this point I suspect not. But if it ever goes to trial, they’d better come with more than it seems like they’ve got now.
Lance_J1 on
Regardless of how I feel about Charlie Kirk or his death, the last thing I want is to enter the era where political murders are viewed as something that you can get away with without being caught. Hopefully they find him
drtolmn69 on
Yesterday, after the false persons-of-interest stuff, I was kind of thinking that it sounded like there were a lot of clues, shoe print, palm print, some surveillance video and stills … now it seems like the trail is chilling.
> The first 48 hours are critical because crucial evidence can be lost, suspects can flee, and witnesses‘ memories can fade, drastically reducing the chances of solving a crime, especially for homicides and vulnerable missing persons cases. This initial period is a race against time to collect immediate evidence, establish leads, interview witnesses while information is fresh, and locate the victim or a suspect before time and distance make the task impossible.
RevolutionaryAd7360 on
It’s entirely possible they don’t want to find him. If the killer is a disillusioned MAGA loyalist whose red line was when Charlie decided to go with Trump on Epstein and not demanding they released the files. It’s better he not be found and they can continue to blame the left.
cjwidd on
Dude is in Mexico already
laserdisk4life on
Sounds like a inside operation. Wasn’t Kirk pushing for the release of the Trump files.
BumblebeeSpirited888 on
The good FBI agents are using black markers to blot out Trump’s name in the Epstein Files.
Accurate_Offer5228 on
DUI hires
RockmanMike on
I wish I could post conspiracies, but I won’t. But man, it is nuts!
MadameOuid on
Maybe they could have a podcast about it lol 😂 fucking idiots…
skeptolojist on
Podcast bro attempts to catch a reasonably competent murderer
Cue benny Hill theme tune
HistoryOnRepeatNow on
Man, these Republican law enforcement officials sure are soft on crime… are they sending in the national guard?
nannerpuss74 on
inept cops. no big story. but what about the epstein client list?
Hamlerhead on
This is asinine in this day and age. The only way this guy got away is because he was meant to get away.
Cui Bono… Do with that what you will.
AF2005 on
Well yeah this entire administration is like trying to cram 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag. Keystone cops
delicioustreeblood on
Have they asked the wrasslin lady in charge of education to use A1?
SwiftCase on
With their incompetence they better hope the killer doesn’t have a list.
6ixseasonsandamovie on
I was born and raised in Utah. I know utah cops very well. Utah cops are fucking TERRIBLE in a chase. I have so many stories of giving them the slip as a kid and as an adult. Utah cops are dumb as rocks and it shows.
Edit: The only thing they know how to do is police highway’s and give out traffic tickets and shut down fun
Sad_Ghost_Noises on
Wouldnt be surprised if they found out he was a right wing nutjob and let the guy go, _for the optics_…
All_Hail_Hynotoad on
It’s all fun and games until there’s a deadly flood in Texas, South Koreans trying to set up a job-creating plant in Georgia get detained, and a high-profile person is murdered in broad daylight.
TortleArtifcer on
Trump had Kirk killed because he called for the release of Epstein files. His death is handy false flag to distract the base from his failures and unite them in outrage
AusToddles on
I’ll keep saying this…. the longer it takes, the more and more that conspiracy theories are going to run insane
Which is really handy if you’re trying to distract from the President being best buddies with a pedo
_afflatus on
The incompetence of the police is creating conspiracy theories from the right and the left
Ohuigin on
Just imagine if this happened under a democrat administration.
A MAGA poster boy assassinated, and over a day later, not a thing to show for it.
fingerblast69 on
Why don’t they just run his forearm imprint through the National forearm database already?
Like damn it ain’t that hard 🙄
BaronWombat on
Just going to note that there will be no fact based counter to the wild right-wing finger pointing as long as the shooter remains unknown. So there is a very good reason for the right-wing DOJ to be „deliberately incompetent.“
I’m just noting a motivation that is in sync with observed actions, not saying i have proof.
Exotic-Lack2708 on
And right wingers will just use this to call for more violence against trans people. Fucking perfect.
holierthanmao on
As soon as they realized the shooter was right wing, they stopped trying. Catching him would hurt the GOP outrage machine.
Ghost_of_Till on
For decades the right has been crying about affirmative action, about how the only factor should be merit, because otherwise you’ll wind up with a worse candidate.
Remember? They vilified so-called “identity politics” all day, every day, twice on Sunday.
Now *here they are* crying about the plight of the white race (identity politics), and baffled as to why they don’t have anyone competent after purging the agencies on the basis of party loyalty.
Sweet baby Jesus on a greased-up pogo stick, denial ain’t just a River in Egypt.
Eat_the_Rich1789 on
3 things are possible here –
1. the shooter is a super Jason Bourne type pro and nobody will ever find him.
2. The cops are just incompetent
3. It’s a false flag.
I am leaning towards 2 and maybe 3.
NorvernMunkey on
Cue the Benny Hill theme music
lostsailorlivefree on
And now tbd whole Cabinet knows the private plane could land anytime and flag Eagle shirt guy could pop out and then …. So better toe the line on Epstein
mbelf on
Anyone else worried they’re just going to arrest a random trans person?
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This is what happens when Trump packs the FBI with incompetent idiots.
This is what happens when you fire the good agents over loyalty and hire a couple college drunks to steer the ship. Kash has made the whole process more difficult by muddying the water with incompetence.
I feel bad for his kids, that’s about it.
He saw how his and his buddies‘ rhetoric has gotten us killed in Walmart, grocery stores, mosques, synagogues, churches and has led to an increase in hate crimes and people joining hate groups and kept fanning the flames. Shitting on MLK’s legacy and saying the Civil Rights Act was a mistake and claiming that structural inequality is really the product of defects in my culture and nothing more. I am not going to mourn a man who saw me as less than and told his followers that my community degrades this country. I feel bad for his children and the spectators who are all going to be scarred for life. I hope they punish the one who pulled the trigger only for law and order’s sake and nothing else.
I wonder if he’s on a bus to D C
If there was ever a false flag…
Or our current government is truly incompetent
Change the agency name to the Department of Bad Ass Alpha Males.
Maybe that will help.
They are frothing for this to be a trans POC. But, based on the video of the suspect, it looks like the shot came from a cracker barrel.
The CIA can do that sometimes
This entire case is fucked.
First off, I’m guessing there’s nobody who actually saw the shooter take the shot. Now, we might have footage of him climbing down off the roof, but that doesn’t prove he pulled the trigger, even if were were able to make out his face.
Next, in all the footage we’ve seen of him, he doesn’t have a long gun. I’ve heard it said that they think it was stuffed down his pants leg, to which I’d ask how exactly he managed to climb the steps up to where he needed to get onto the roof. This seems to be based off the fact that he was limping on the doorbell cameras, but I’d argue that he probably injured his leg jumping down off the roof. But it doesn’t matter: as far as I’m aware, there is no photo evidence that put the gun in the man’s hands.
They found a gun in a wooded area where they think the shooter probably fled, wrapped in a towel. Assuming he was as careful concealing the crime as he was in committing it, there will be no prints on that gun. In fact, I suspect if they had usable fingerprints, there’d have been a BOLO issued by now.
So that leaves DNA, which is a problem. DNA, if there is any, can put the gun in the shooter’s hands, but doesn’t prove he fired it, or when he held it.
I don’t know if they’ll ever find this guy. At this point I suspect not. But if it ever goes to trial, they’d better come with more than it seems like they’ve got now.
Regardless of how I feel about Charlie Kirk or his death, the last thing I want is to enter the era where political murders are viewed as something that you can get away with without being caught. Hopefully they find him
Yesterday, after the false persons-of-interest stuff, I was kind of thinking that it sounded like there were a lot of clues, shoe print, palm print, some surveillance video and stills … now it seems like the trail is chilling.
> The first 48 hours are critical because crucial evidence can be lost, suspects can flee, and witnesses‘ memories can fade, drastically reducing the chances of solving a crime, especially for homicides and vulnerable missing persons cases. This initial period is a race against time to collect immediate evidence, establish leads, interview witnesses while information is fresh, and locate the victim or a suspect before time and distance make the task impossible.
It’s entirely possible they don’t want to find him. If the killer is a disillusioned MAGA loyalist whose red line was when Charlie decided to go with Trump on Epstein and not demanding they released the files. It’s better he not be found and they can continue to blame the left.
Dude is in Mexico already
Sounds like a inside operation. Wasn’t Kirk pushing for the release of the Trump files.
The good FBI agents are using black markers to blot out Trump’s name in the Epstein Files.
DUI hires
I wish I could post conspiracies, but I won’t. But man, it is nuts!
Maybe they could have a podcast about it lol 😂 fucking idiots…
Podcast bro attempts to catch a reasonably competent murderer
Cue benny Hill theme tune
Man, these Republican law enforcement officials sure are soft on crime… are they sending in the national guard?
inept cops. no big story. but what about the epstein client list?
This is asinine in this day and age. The only way this guy got away is because he was meant to get away.
Cui Bono… Do with that what you will.
Well yeah this entire administration is like trying to cram 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag. Keystone cops
Have they asked the wrasslin lady in charge of education to use A1?
With their incompetence they better hope the killer doesn’t have a list.
I was born and raised in Utah. I know utah cops very well. Utah cops are fucking TERRIBLE in a chase. I have so many stories of giving them the slip as a kid and as an adult. Utah cops are dumb as rocks and it shows.
Edit: The only thing they know how to do is police highway’s and give out traffic tickets and shut down fun
Wouldnt be surprised if they found out he was a right wing nutjob and let the guy go, _for the optics_…
It’s all fun and games until there’s a deadly flood in Texas, South Koreans trying to set up a job-creating plant in Georgia get detained, and a high-profile person is murdered in broad daylight.
Trump had Kirk killed because he called for the release of Epstein files. His death is handy false flag to distract the base from his failures and unite them in outrage
I’ll keep saying this…. the longer it takes, the more and more that conspiracy theories are going to run insane
Which is really handy if you’re trying to distract from the President being best buddies with a pedo
The incompetence of the police is creating conspiracy theories from the right and the left
Just imagine if this happened under a democrat administration.
A MAGA poster boy assassinated, and over a day later, not a thing to show for it.
Why don’t they just run his forearm imprint through the National forearm database already?
Like damn it ain’t that hard 🙄
Just going to note that there will be no fact based counter to the wild right-wing finger pointing as long as the shooter remains unknown. So there is a very good reason for the right-wing DOJ to be „deliberately incompetent.“
I’m just noting a motivation that is in sync with observed actions, not saying i have proof.
And right wingers will just use this to call for more violence against trans people. Fucking perfect.
As soon as they realized the shooter was right wing, they stopped trying. Catching him would hurt the GOP outrage machine.
For decades the right has been crying about affirmative action, about how the only factor should be merit, because otherwise you’ll wind up with a worse candidate.
Remember? They vilified so-called “identity politics” all day, every day, twice on Sunday.
Now *here they are* crying about the plight of the white race (identity politics), and baffled as to why they don’t have anyone competent after purging the agencies on the basis of party loyalty.
Sweet baby Jesus on a greased-up pogo stick, denial ain’t just a River in Egypt.
3 things are possible here –
1. the shooter is a super Jason Bourne type pro and nobody will ever find him.
2. The cops are just incompetent
3. It’s a false flag.
I am leaning towards 2 and maybe 3.
Cue the Benny Hill theme music
And now tbd whole Cabinet knows the private plane could land anytime and flag Eagle shirt guy could pop out and then …. So better toe the line on Epstein
Anyone else worried they’re just going to arrest a random trans person?