This is like watching a blind, drunk caveman, trying to land a plane.
Individual-Guest-123 on
Working his way through that list of States that have wronged him?
I wonder if he got to pick the States the winning powerball numbers came from? And of course two had to split it, with taxes and the cash out option they prob will get a couple hundred thousand each, far from being instant billiionaires. What a racket.
Toadfinger on
Would the raid have even happened if it wasn’t green jobs?
TintedApostle on
That town just died. Hyundai is going to slowly close up operations.
thepartypantser on
I don’t think Trump could do a better job at stifling manufacturing in the US.
Between the randomness of the constantly changing unpredictable tariff situation, and the aggressive but inconsistent enforcement like this, This is going to destroy any sort of desire for international businesses to grow their manufacturing in the United States.
You couldn’t write a better plan to destroy American manufacturing than the current one the Trump administration is pursuing.
fulthrottlejazzhands on
To echo others, taking workers who are just trying to earn a living is detrimental to everyone.
That said, there are mitigating factors here. Hyundai and other Asian manufacturers have been doing this for years… They open a plant in the US, receive hundreds of millions in tax breaks and subsidies, then proceed to bring over home-country workers without a single regard to promises to hire locally and no intent to follow visa regulations. Moreover, these are not jobs for migrant agricultural workers where margins are razor thin: they’re well-paid manufacturing and construction positions for skilled workers.
Govt should be going after the companies who continue to break the law here, not the workers who are just looking to make a living/life.
Orwells_Roses on
It is absolutely absurd and obscene that these masked goons show up with rifles out and body armor to go after people working 9-5 manufacturing jobs in factories. They’re equipped to go into combat with near-peer adversaries, when all they’re doing is correcting errors on paperwork.
manniesalado on
The magas are certainly leaving no stone unturned in their war on the Yank economy. This is just unbelievable. The Koreans must have crapped their pants when the masked thugs leapt out of the armoured cars.
leftistpropaganja on
Stupendous job, Comrade Krasnov!
Trump is in the White House to destroy the United States from the inside, and it’s working.
flossypants on
Even assuming the workers were on an incorrect visa or overstayed, what a stupid enforcement decision by Trump’s administration. Raiding, shackling, etc.! They could have been confronted with non-compliance and instead asked to normalize their visas (e.g. extend or convert to work visas).
I read that as a result of this raid, Hyundai instructed all its staff (and contractors?) to return home. Without them and similar folk at other companies, it will be difficult for foreign manufacturers to transfer knowledge and establish functional US facilities. What will induce them to return?
If Republican politicians, especially those affected by these bad policies (e.g. Georgia politicians), were patriotic, they’d impede or even impeach Trump (e.g. release the Epstein files) to convince him to change course but they’ll instead mumble something about Hyundai being an important partner and do nothing.
NeoThorrus on
But that plant was made by Biden. We can’t have that.
Vreas on
So what’s the plan here? Destroy America and then run away to Russia after? Does dude not realize Putin will just immediately have him killed the instant he is no longer useful?
WarbossTodd on
Hyundai has said this will lead to a years long delay in battery production which will, in turn, leads to a slow down of production at their other Georgia plant. Those slow downs will lead to lay offs.
Then we will hear the outrage.
mistertickertape on
It is going to take decades to rebuild trust in the international business community after whatever this is ends, assuming it does. I think it is still far from ending. This has Howard Lutnic and Steven Miller written all over it.
Palestbycomparisoned on
I’m sure it was a coincidence that it was an EV plant and not any of Hyundais gas vehicle plants in the USA
rodentmaster on
Now how many of them were legitimate targets (I use that loosely) or how many were legal residents arrested because they (checks notes) „exist with dark skin“?
Inevitable-Play9880 on
Elon had a hand in this. Elon wants his trillion dollars.
letsburn00 on
People assume that the wealthy will never let the entire nation which gives them power to collapse by doing insanely stupid shit that hurts the nation. Look up the French revolution. The richest 5% were basically immune from all taxes, the entire economy was owned by them and when you got rich enough you paid a fee, were enobled and you didn’t have to pay tax anymore.
The government basically couldn’t operate and were bankrupt. The government and nobility spent all their time fucking around and it wasn’t until it was all over that they remotely tried to do anything. They ended up getting their heads chopped off.
Skinnieguy on
Perfect example of Trump doing things will his right without realizing what his left is doing.
It’ll take decades to fix this mess, if there is an America to fix.
Ravaha on
I helped get this battery plant approved on the design side. Georgia’s government fast tracked it, so I would imagine Georgia state politicians will be rather pissed about the biggest project in the state getting this type of treatment.
This makes me think they arrested a bunch of south Koreans as well that are 100% overseeing their huge investment in the United States.
They won’t be in most government databases as many of them have not filed taxes yet and filing taxes is how most of the databases get updated with your information.
Basically you don’t exist in the government online databases until you have filed your taxes, until then you have to jump through a lot of hoops to verify your identity.
I know this because I was in talks with government officials getting south korean project managers identifies verified for this project and they told me this info.
So basically they arrest a shit ton of immigrants on valid work visas and claim they are not in the government database and it’s because the databases are not updated until the person files their taxes.
Also south koreans working here go by aliases as often times it’s hard for English speakers to say and remember their Korean names.
CurrentlyLucid on
trump was the worst possible choice for president, and he is proving it.
Moxerz on
If they were really worried about it they would have fined the plant for every illegal worker… but they didn’t so really theynare just about terrorizing brown people.
pjflyr13 on
The most devious part of the plot is he has convinced his base he is saving Amerikkka and they will break every rule and norm to support him. Including the Constitution.
blue_quark on
This is one of the best articles that I have read on the state of American government lately. Unlike some commentators, the writers of this piece aren’t hysterically shouting that America is becoming a fascist state. Instead they carefully describe the facts of the raid and convey the competing sentiments of fear and racial resentment in the affected town. What remains is an unavoidable comparison to the 1930’s era of crackdowns and roundups in Germany, especially on the competing feelings of townsfolk apathy and contrition. I think prescient Americans are starting to recall Niemöller’s statement that, “…then they came for me.”
Pretty-Balance-Sheet on
Are these raids a favor to Elon or some car manufacturing CEO?
obviouswhale on
Crazy that one lunatic can make a single phone call to DHS leading to this chaos
daslyvillian on
HR could have easily cleared the workers if all the paperwork was correct.
KingMario05 on
Awful. That Hyundai isn’t loudly just shutting everything down is a miracle in and of itself. Really hope that plant can outlast all this.
nascarhero on
Hyundai was turning a blind eye to subs using illegal labor, nobodies fault but their own and the subs they used. I’m sure those subs weren’t underpaying their workers and making huge profit margins as a result.
Several_Leather_9500 on
May S Korea raise hell about this. Fuck Trump. Fuck ICE. And fuck Elon because I suspect he had something to do with this.
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This is like watching a blind, drunk caveman, trying to land a plane.
Working his way through that list of States that have wronged him?
I wonder if he got to pick the States the winning powerball numbers came from? And of course two had to split it, with taxes and the cash out option they prob will get a couple hundred thousand each, far from being instant billiionaires. What a racket.
Would the raid have even happened if it wasn’t green jobs?
That town just died. Hyundai is going to slowly close up operations.
I don’t think Trump could do a better job at stifling manufacturing in the US.
Between the randomness of the constantly changing unpredictable tariff situation, and the aggressive but inconsistent enforcement like this, This is going to destroy any sort of desire for international businesses to grow their manufacturing in the United States.
You couldn’t write a better plan to destroy American manufacturing than the current one the Trump administration is pursuing.
To echo others, taking workers who are just trying to earn a living is detrimental to everyone.
That said, there are mitigating factors here. Hyundai and other Asian manufacturers have been doing this for years… They open a plant in the US, receive hundreds of millions in tax breaks and subsidies, then proceed to bring over home-country workers without a single regard to promises to hire locally and no intent to follow visa regulations. Moreover, these are not jobs for migrant agricultural workers where margins are razor thin: they’re well-paid manufacturing and construction positions for skilled workers.
Govt should be going after the companies who continue to break the law here, not the workers who are just looking to make a living/life.
It is absolutely absurd and obscene that these masked goons show up with rifles out and body armor to go after people working 9-5 manufacturing jobs in factories. They’re equipped to go into combat with near-peer adversaries, when all they’re doing is correcting errors on paperwork.
The magas are certainly leaving no stone unturned in their war on the Yank economy. This is just unbelievable. The Koreans must have crapped their pants when the masked thugs leapt out of the armoured cars.
Stupendous job, Comrade Krasnov!
Trump is in the White House to destroy the United States from the inside, and it’s working.
Even assuming the workers were on an incorrect visa or overstayed, what a stupid enforcement decision by Trump’s administration. Raiding, shackling, etc.! They could have been confronted with non-compliance and instead asked to normalize their visas (e.g. extend or convert to work visas).
I read that as a result of this raid, Hyundai instructed all its staff (and contractors?) to return home. Without them and similar folk at other companies, it will be difficult for foreign manufacturers to transfer knowledge and establish functional US facilities. What will induce them to return?
If Republican politicians, especially those affected by these bad policies (e.g. Georgia politicians), were patriotic, they’d impede or even impeach Trump (e.g. release the Epstein files) to convince him to change course but they’ll instead mumble something about Hyundai being an important partner and do nothing.
But that plant was made by Biden. We can’t have that.
So what’s the plan here? Destroy America and then run away to Russia after? Does dude not realize Putin will just immediately have him killed the instant he is no longer useful?
Hyundai has said this will lead to a years long delay in battery production which will, in turn, leads to a slow down of production at their other Georgia plant. Those slow downs will lead to lay offs.
Then we will hear the outrage.
It is going to take decades to rebuild trust in the international business community after whatever this is ends, assuming it does. I think it is still far from ending. This has Howard Lutnic and Steven Miller written all over it.
I’m sure it was a coincidence that it was an EV plant and not any of Hyundais gas vehicle plants in the USA
Now how many of them were legitimate targets (I use that loosely) or how many were legal residents arrested because they (checks notes) „exist with dark skin“?
Elon had a hand in this. Elon wants his trillion dollars.
People assume that the wealthy will never let the entire nation which gives them power to collapse by doing insanely stupid shit that hurts the nation. Look up the French revolution. The richest 5% were basically immune from all taxes, the entire economy was owned by them and when you got rich enough you paid a fee, were enobled and you didn’t have to pay tax anymore.
The government basically couldn’t operate and were bankrupt. The government and nobility spent all their time fucking around and it wasn’t until it was all over that they remotely tried to do anything. They ended up getting their heads chopped off.
Perfect example of Trump doing things will his right without realizing what his left is doing.
It’ll take decades to fix this mess, if there is an America to fix.
I helped get this battery plant approved on the design side. Georgia’s government fast tracked it, so I would imagine Georgia state politicians will be rather pissed about the biggest project in the state getting this type of treatment.
This makes me think they arrested a bunch of south Koreans as well that are 100% overseeing their huge investment in the United States.
They won’t be in most government databases as many of them have not filed taxes yet and filing taxes is how most of the databases get updated with your information.
Basically you don’t exist in the government online databases until you have filed your taxes, until then you have to jump through a lot of hoops to verify your identity.
I know this because I was in talks with government officials getting south korean project managers identifies verified for this project and they told me this info.
So basically they arrest a shit ton of immigrants on valid work visas and claim they are not in the government database and it’s because the databases are not updated until the person files their taxes.
Also south koreans working here go by aliases as often times it’s hard for English speakers to say and remember their Korean names.
trump was the worst possible choice for president, and he is proving it.
If they were really worried about it they would have fined the plant for every illegal worker… but they didn’t so really theynare just about terrorizing brown people.
The most devious part of the plot is he has convinced his base he is saving Amerikkka and they will break every rule and norm to support him. Including the Constitution.
This is one of the best articles that I have read on the state of American government lately. Unlike some commentators, the writers of this piece aren’t hysterically shouting that America is becoming a fascist state. Instead they carefully describe the facts of the raid and convey the competing sentiments of fear and racial resentment in the affected town. What remains is an unavoidable comparison to the 1930’s era of crackdowns and roundups in Germany, especially on the competing feelings of townsfolk apathy and contrition. I think prescient Americans are starting to recall Niemöller’s statement that, “…then they came for me.”
Are these raids a favor to Elon or some car manufacturing CEO?
Crazy that one lunatic can make a single phone call to DHS leading to this chaos
HR could have easily cleared the workers if all the paperwork was correct.
Awful. That Hyundai isn’t loudly just shutting everything down is a miracle in and of itself. Really hope that plant can outlast all this.
Hyundai was turning a blind eye to subs using illegal labor, nobodies fault but their own and the subs they used. I’m sure those subs weren’t underpaying their workers and making huge profit margins as a result.
May S Korea raise hell about this. Fuck Trump. Fuck ICE. And fuck Elon because I suspect he had something to do with this.