To be fair, “Donde esta la libreria?” doesn’t have the same ring to it
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tayfunxus on
In Romanian, librarie is the book shop and biblioteca is the place where you „rent“ books to read, so yeah, fair.
FingalForever on
Map hasn’t used its main source completely…. Ireland looked wrong from the get-go.
andrej2577 on
Croats tend to use „knjiznica,“ too, which at first I thought meant „bookstore,“ along the lines of „knjizara,“ in Montenegro, but nope it’s library.
left2die on
Hungary being more Slavic than most Slavs…
Jumpy_Poet_8478 on
😂😂😂 cyprus in Europe but Anatalioa is not🇷🇸
im_bi_strapping on
Do estonians say book house? Or is that book home.
CrepeSuzette9 on
For English they probably took it from the French word « Librairie ». We use « librairie » (bookshop) and « bibliothèque » in French
Prin-prin on
I find interesting how languages not based on extensive use of suffixes seem to have very different words for related concepts (like how the comments here note that their languages have both libre- and biblio- derivatives).
Since finnish basically mashes the meanings together, ours are much simpler:
kirja = book
kirja + kauppa (shop) = bookshop
kirja + sto (suffix denoting an abstracted collection of concrete things) = a collection of books = library
Other abstract collection examples:
> vasemmisto = vasen (left) + sto = the leftists (people of the political leaning
> vähemmistö = vähä (less) + sto = minority (of the group)
belanedeja on
Incorrect for Croatian, it’s also knjižnica
Sad_Pear_1087 on
Hungarian one is so close to the finnish word „Raamattu“ which (exclusively) means The Bible. Hungarian and Finnish are both Uralic. „Bible“ and the older finnish „Biblia“ (for Bible) also resembles the „bibliothek“ words. Does anybody know better?
Apoll0Moon on
Leabharlann as Gaeilge.
MaltyMuskox on
könyv is not a slavic word, it has turkish roots coming maybe from assyrian
Draigwyrdd on
Yn Gymraeg, llyfrgell. Basically ‚book cell‘.
Rare-Victory on
what happened to northern Norway and Sweden?
The Lapp kværn languages are not the predominant languages afaik?
A-6_Intr-uwu-der on
What does „raamatukogu“ have to do with ancient Greece? It just translates to „collection of books“.
Party-Cake5173 on
No one in Croatia says „biblioteka“ for library. We all say „knjižnica“.
Bookshop or bookstore would be „knjižara“.
RetiredApostle on
Not only in Proto-Slavic, in many modern Slavic languages „kniga“ actually means book.
QuastQuan on
The German word would be „Bücherei“ – Bibliothek is more like an academic library
Creeperkun4040 on
In German there are two words for library. „Bibliothek“ and „Bücherei“. The first is the one coming from Greek, but the second I’m pretty sure is from German origin and could probably be translated to Bookery.
Milosz0pl on
In Polish *library* is *biblioteka*, while *bookstore* is usually *księgarnia* (księga being a book)
SoulEaterXMaka on
we actually use both „knjižnica“ and „biblioteka“ c: fun fact (Slovenia)
bookstore is „knjigarna“
ypherpon on
Interesting how apparently in a lot of languages a variation of “bibliotheque” means the library where you rent and not buy which is the exact same as in the Greek word “bibliothiki”, but the word for bookstore seems to be different and more localized for a lot of these languages. I guess it has to do with the fact that bookstores are a relatively modern invention compared to a public library?
joelmchalewashere on
And then in German you *also* have Bücherei, literally bookery, additionally to the word Bibliothek, which technically means the same thing but -Bibliothek- evokes grandness, expensive old books and studying while Bücherei is often more small scale with novels and cookbooks but depending on the area people might *again* view this differently
Costin_Razvan on
Yeah so ‚library‘ here in Romania is librarie: It’s basically a bookshop.
Library as we understand it in English is translate as biblioteca.
fistiklikebab on
why is cyprus considered european but not anatolia?
Racika on
I mean hungarian does have the word „bibliotéka“ which is straight up bibliotheque, you just sound very pretentious saying it outside of official papers so people just use „könyvtár“ (not just könyv, which means book on its own) which is book storage.
The same goes for all the slavic ones, you can technically say „biblioteku“ but most people wont, not sure why this changes country to country on this map. Seems like someone put library in google translate and always looked at the 3rd option from the drop down menu of synonyms.
Luihuparta on
I’m not sure whether it’s Finnish or the Sami languages that the maker of this chart thinks is more widespread than they are in northern Sweden and Norway.
Sensitive-War102 on
In Poland we also use “książnica”; for example the main library in my city is officially named “Książnica Kopernikańska”. „Biblioteka” is far more common in everyday usage, though.
NormalDudeNotWeirdo on
図書館
Niklas_Martins on
Bücherei, Jungs*innen.
Blazkowski on
So you think our words for library are translations of the English word? That’s quite a gall
Susannista on
Bücherei!!!!
LonelyTreat3725 on
In Italian:
Biblioteca = Library
Libreria = Bookshop
Scary-Leadership826 on
In icelandic, Bókasafn means „Book collection“
Paolo1976 on
„Library“ is translated into „biblioteca“ in Italian, as „libreria“ is, the bookshop. So it’s the same false friend of other neolatin languages (*).
The author of this map has done a poor job in capturing the nuances.
(*): except when it’s „software library“ which is translated as „libreria software“. This probaly because the first Italian people reading it, decades ago, made the mistake.
Dependent_Slide8591 on
In the ex-yugoslav nations it’s less common to heart biblioteka and you’ll more often than not hear „knjižnica“ (which falls into the Slavic root of course)
rydolf_shabe on
in albania we use „library“ for a book shop, and „bibliotek“ for a larger more „professional“ place where one can find books
NarwhalDeluxe on
Or as some english speaking people say: lieberry
seamus1982seamus on
Leabharlann -as gaeilge( in Irish)
Anforas on
From the proto-slavic what? Is this word allowed?
Madouc on
Germans have both „Bücherei“ (library) and „Bibliothek“ (same)
dalvi5 on
-ía suffix means whatever thing shop, so it makes sense to be Librería for bookstore
– Pan (Bread)-> Panadería
– Pastel (Cake) -> Pastelería
– Fruta (Fruit) -> Frutería
– Pollo (Chicken) -> Pollería
And so on
CZdigger146 on
Czech is correct: knihovna, which means something like „bookery“. Honestly was really confused when I found out the correct word for library for the first time since bookery made so much sense lol
Also bookstore is knihkupectví, which literally means bookstore.
ShakeElectronic2174 on
In Irish (and Scottish gaelic too) it’s actually Leabharlann, literally Bookcentre. A bookshop is siopa leabhair.
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To be fair, “Donde esta la libreria?” doesn’t have the same ring to it
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In Romanian, librarie is the book shop and biblioteca is the place where you „rent“ books to read, so yeah, fair.
Map hasn’t used its main source completely…. Ireland looked wrong from the get-go.
Croats tend to use „knjiznica,“ too, which at first I thought meant „bookstore,“ along the lines of „knjizara,“ in Montenegro, but nope it’s library.
Hungary being more Slavic than most Slavs…
😂😂😂 cyprus in Europe but Anatalioa is not🇷🇸
Do estonians say book house? Or is that book home.
For English they probably took it from the French word « Librairie ». We use « librairie » (bookshop) and « bibliothèque » in French
I find interesting how languages not based on extensive use of suffixes seem to have very different words for related concepts (like how the comments here note that their languages have both libre- and biblio- derivatives).
Since finnish basically mashes the meanings together, ours are much simpler:
kirja = book
kirja + kauppa (shop) = bookshop
kirja + sto (suffix denoting an abstracted collection of concrete things) = a collection of books = library
Other abstract collection examples:
> vasemmisto = vasen (left) + sto = the leftists (people of the political leaning
> vähemmistö = vähä (less) + sto = minority (of the group)
Incorrect for Croatian, it’s also knjižnica
Hungarian one is so close to the finnish word „Raamattu“ which (exclusively) means The Bible. Hungarian and Finnish are both Uralic. „Bible“ and the older finnish „Biblia“ (for Bible) also resembles the „bibliothek“ words. Does anybody know better?
Leabharlann as Gaeilge.
könyv is not a slavic word, it has turkish roots coming maybe from assyrian
Yn Gymraeg, llyfrgell. Basically ‚book cell‘.
what happened to northern Norway and Sweden?
The Lapp kværn languages are not the predominant languages afaik?
What does „raamatukogu“ have to do with ancient Greece? It just translates to „collection of books“.
No one in Croatia says „biblioteka“ for library. We all say „knjižnica“.
Bookshop or bookstore would be „knjižara“.
Not only in Proto-Slavic, in many modern Slavic languages „kniga“ actually means book.
The German word would be „Bücherei“ – Bibliothek is more like an academic library
In German there are two words for library. „Bibliothek“ and „Bücherei“. The first is the one coming from Greek, but the second I’m pretty sure is from German origin and could probably be translated to Bookery.
In Polish *library* is *biblioteka*, while *bookstore* is usually *księgarnia* (księga being a book)
we actually use both „knjižnica“ and „biblioteka“ c: fun fact (Slovenia)
bookstore is „knjigarna“
Interesting how apparently in a lot of languages a variation of “bibliotheque” means the library where you rent and not buy which is the exact same as in the Greek word “bibliothiki”, but the word for bookstore seems to be different and more localized for a lot of these languages. I guess it has to do with the fact that bookstores are a relatively modern invention compared to a public library?
And then in German you *also* have Bücherei, literally bookery, additionally to the word Bibliothek, which technically means the same thing but -Bibliothek- evokes grandness, expensive old books and studying while Bücherei is often more small scale with novels and cookbooks but depending on the area people might *again* view this differently
Yeah so ‚library‘ here in Romania is librarie: It’s basically a bookshop.
Library as we understand it in English is translate as biblioteca.
why is cyprus considered european but not anatolia?
I mean hungarian does have the word „bibliotéka“ which is straight up bibliotheque, you just sound very pretentious saying it outside of official papers so people just use „könyvtár“ (not just könyv, which means book on its own) which is book storage.
The same goes for all the slavic ones, you can technically say „biblioteku“ but most people wont, not sure why this changes country to country on this map. Seems like someone put library in google translate and always looked at the 3rd option from the drop down menu of synonyms.
I’m not sure whether it’s Finnish or the Sami languages that the maker of this chart thinks is more widespread than they are in northern Sweden and Norway.
In Poland we also use “książnica”; for example the main library in my city is officially named “Książnica Kopernikańska”. „Biblioteka” is far more common in everyday usage, though.
図書館
Bücherei, Jungs*innen.
So you think our words for library are translations of the English word? That’s quite a gall
Bücherei!!!!
In Italian:
Biblioteca = Library
Libreria = Bookshop
In icelandic, Bókasafn means „Book collection“
„Library“ is translated into „biblioteca“ in Italian, as „libreria“ is, the bookshop. So it’s the same false friend of other neolatin languages (*).
The author of this map has done a poor job in capturing the nuances.
(*): except when it’s „software library“ which is translated as „libreria software“. This probaly because the first Italian people reading it, decades ago, made the mistake.
In the ex-yugoslav nations it’s less common to heart biblioteka and you’ll more often than not hear „knjižnica“ (which falls into the Slavic root of course)
in albania we use „library“ for a book shop, and „bibliotek“ for a larger more „professional“ place where one can find books
Or as some english speaking people say: lieberry
Leabharlann -as gaeilge( in Irish)
From the proto-slavic what? Is this word allowed?
Germans have both „Bücherei“ (library) and „Bibliothek“ (same)
-ía suffix means whatever thing shop, so it makes sense to be Librería for bookstore
– Pan (Bread)-> Panadería
– Pastel (Cake) -> Pastelería
– Fruta (Fruit) -> Frutería
– Pollo (Chicken) -> Pollería
And so on
Czech is correct: knihovna, which means something like „bookery“. Honestly was really confused when I found out the correct word for library for the first time since bookery made so much sense lol
Also bookstore is knihkupectví, which literally means bookstore.
In Irish (and Scottish gaelic too) it’s actually Leabharlann, literally Bookcentre. A bookshop is siopa leabhair.