Why are the red states always the worst? Doesn’t matter what we are looking at, the red states are always really bad.
SarahJFroxy on
honestly for how car dense the cities of CA and NY+NJ are, i’m genuinely impressed tbh
edit: i know traffic makes it harder, but people do still speed here, particularly on freeways and late at night
severe_neuropathy on
Hey my state’s not first place anymore! Get fucked Wyoming.
heyitsmemaya on
Utah. Lmao 😂 where the drivers aren’t hopped up on, well, liquor, drugs or caffeine
Recurs1ve on
Oklahoma making sure everyone remembers that it’s the worst state.
TacitlyDaft on
AZ is no shock. I’m a seasoned big city driver and still astounds me that the “traffic” speed around Phoenix is 85+.
Energy, square of velocity, etc.
ihopeitsnice on
I’d like to see per mile traveled
mrdungbeetle on
Genuinely surprised it is so low in the Northeast, with how fast and aggressive the drivers are there.
1quirky1 on
I’m colorblind so the extreme ends look the same to me.
bananasplits on
I’d love to see this compared to rate of seat belt usage.
I don’t think population density is the sole cause here – MN, WI, MI have to have similar population density as many of those southern states.
randomsynchronicity on
I, too, would be very interested to see a separate graph of seatbelt usage.
xlRadioActivelx on
This graph is kinda useless, it’s deaths per 100k people, so of course in places where lots of people don’t drive at all are going to be lower. Not to mention the fact that city driving is lower speed and less likely to result in deaths.
For a graph like this to be useful it should really be deaths per (100k miles driven).
cwagrant on
As someone from St. Louis I’m pretty amazed Maryland isn’t higher. I drove around Baltimore a few months ago and I think those might be the only drivers I’ve ever been afraid of.
ReturnToBog on
Is everyone just drinking and driving here in the south? I really expected the big northeastern metros to be worse.
moreesq on
As I looked at Mississippi, I wondered whether the fatality rate reflects very poor hospitals. In other words, do they die in the crash itself or do they die within say 24 hours later because of poor doctors and treatment capabilities. As for New Mexico, does it have to do with Reservations?
PMmeYourDunes on
I simply do not accept the results for Texas. I’ve been to fucking Texas, and I demand a recount or something. Please review, but don’t like go there and review because someone will probably hit you with a car.
apple_pi_chart on
Poor color scheme. Should break it down into 5-7 bins and end with the light color as the lowest rate of fatalities.
crillish on
Mapping deaths normalized by population doesn’t show much. This map will overstate areas where long distance travel is normal. The column that has deaths by miles driven will give a better picture of deadliest drivers
berolo on
Lol, another map where red is generally bad. Go figure
lettertoelhizb on
I’m shocked that CO is so low
TotalInstruction on
Wisconsin, where the rampant alcoholism actually makes them better drivers.
RoomTraditional126 on
After working on ambulances for close to a decade its honestly feels like theres not much sense to who lives or dies in a car accident. Rollover, under back end of a semi? Yup still alive. Hit a stop sign at just the right way, brain bleed and dead.
Zcrash on
Does Mississippi just suck ass at everything?
gudetube on
6 people a year die in Wyoming and they’re blood red on the map
Faangdevmanager on
Why are States with ice and snow much better than States without?
jaypizzl on
The nationwide average in Canada is under 8 – the whole country would be dark green on this map.
pook_a_dook on
For what it’s worth, New Mexico is the state I felt most uncomfortable driving through, so this tracks. Unpredictable and fast, could t wait to leave that state.
Fast_Moon on
Honestly surprised to see the regions with the worst winter weather are still the ones on the low end. Of course, that also means there’s so many potholes that no one can drive faster than 30, anyways.
Longjumping-Cat1748 on
Would love to see overlaid with corralory data.
Who has mandatory drivers ed, how strict are the drinking or smoking laws, what are the seat belts laws, phone laws, etc. Bet someone like insurance companies already have the models
Rare_Pumpkin_9505 on
Would be great to see this compared to other industrialized nations.
Monster_from_the_id on
The reason that NY/CT/NJ is so low because millions of people in those areas take mass transportation to work and either walk to a station or have a very short drive to one.
KeepGoing655 on
Wonder how much of tourists driving around Yellowstone in Wyoming and Montana is a factor for the high numbers.
bdw666 on
Why does Mississippi always finish first or last?
eric5014 on
Australia: 4.8 in 2023
We drive less AND we have fewer deaths per distance.
The former is due to more people living in the big cities, availability of public transport in those cities and high petrol tax. The latter is possibly due to stricter rules inc a decades-long campaign against drink-driving.
fayanor on
why does the south suck at everything?
Maxasaurus on
What the fuck is this legend?
The lowest and highest are like the same dark color, while the middle range is light?
This data is ugly and nearly unreadable.
liquidsol on
The scale isn’t very large. It ranges from 8 to 20+
Maximus15637 on
Would probably be better data if it’s was peer 100k licensed drivers. I’m sure NY is so low just because there’s lots of people and less driver than normal.
Emracruel on
The confounding variables I would imagine are:
First and foremost, total miles driven per 100,000 people.
Second, average distance from a hospital for the average car wreck.
Third, number of drivers passing through the state. You don’t have to live in a state to be in a fatal accident in it.
jesusmansuperpowers on
In Colorado we have 75mph speed limits. So the evidence is in, driving faster is safer.
ReferenceNice142 on
Every says MA has the worse drivers but what do you know lowest number of deaths!
2xdareya on
Can’t believe that NY is the lowest. I drive, ride motorcycle and ride bicycle (hit from behind on a clear no-traffic straightaway) and drivers are flat out dangerous, although PA drivers are way worse. Good lord.
Reading-Comments-352 on
I would love to see how this relates to the speed limits in those areas.
barsknos on
Let me guess, the SUV vs normal-sized personal cars sales figures overlap quite a lot?
toxiamaple on
Do you think decent public transportation might be one of the effects? As well as the other obvious ones (seatbelt compliance, speeding laws, alcohol, etc).
Obi1Kentucky on
Windy country roads with trees blocking views have to play a role
BassJerky on
How does it look with car accidents per 100k fatal or not?
herewegoagain_2500 on
It would be great to see this data with high density cities removed (as a proxy for areas with good public transit). I wonder if it is the millions in NYC who are bringing the state averages down. What is the fatality rate if NYC isn’t included? Are we just better drivers or have the roads implemented safety features that other states could adopt?
Impossible-Bluebird8 on
I’m shocked that Michigan isn’t the deepest, darkest red. Everybody here does 90+MPH while swerving around somebody in the left lane without using their blinker and the roads are shit.
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Why are the red states always the worst? Doesn’t matter what we are looking at, the red states are always really bad.
honestly for how car dense the cities of CA and NY+NJ are, i’m genuinely impressed tbh
edit: i know traffic makes it harder, but people do still speed here, particularly on freeways and late at night
Hey my state’s not first place anymore! Get fucked Wyoming.
Utah. Lmao 😂 where the drivers aren’t hopped up on, well, liquor, drugs or caffeine
Oklahoma making sure everyone remembers that it’s the worst state.
AZ is no shock. I’m a seasoned big city driver and still astounds me that the “traffic” speed around Phoenix is 85+.
Energy, square of velocity, etc.
I’d like to see per mile traveled
Genuinely surprised it is so low in the Northeast, with how fast and aggressive the drivers are there.
I’m colorblind so the extreme ends look the same to me.
I’d love to see this compared to rate of seat belt usage.
I don’t think population density is the sole cause here – MN, WI, MI have to have similar population density as many of those southern states.
I, too, would be very interested to see a separate graph of seatbelt usage.
This graph is kinda useless, it’s deaths per 100k people, so of course in places where lots of people don’t drive at all are going to be lower. Not to mention the fact that city driving is lower speed and less likely to result in deaths.
For a graph like this to be useful it should really be deaths per (100k miles driven).
As someone from St. Louis I’m pretty amazed Maryland isn’t higher. I drove around Baltimore a few months ago and I think those might be the only drivers I’ve ever been afraid of.
Is everyone just drinking and driving here in the south? I really expected the big northeastern metros to be worse.
As I looked at Mississippi, I wondered whether the fatality rate reflects very poor hospitals. In other words, do they die in the crash itself or do they die within say 24 hours later because of poor doctors and treatment capabilities. As for New Mexico, does it have to do with Reservations?
I simply do not accept the results for Texas. I’ve been to fucking Texas, and I demand a recount or something. Please review, but don’t like go there and review because someone will probably hit you with a car.
Poor color scheme. Should break it down into 5-7 bins and end with the light color as the lowest rate of fatalities.
Mapping deaths normalized by population doesn’t show much. This map will overstate areas where long distance travel is normal. The column that has deaths by miles driven will give a better picture of deadliest drivers
Lol, another map where red is generally bad. Go figure
I’m shocked that CO is so low
Wisconsin, where the rampant alcoholism actually makes them better drivers.
After working on ambulances for close to a decade its honestly feels like theres not much sense to who lives or dies in a car accident. Rollover, under back end of a semi? Yup still alive. Hit a stop sign at just the right way, brain bleed and dead.
Does Mississippi just suck ass at everything?
6 people a year die in Wyoming and they’re blood red on the map
Why are States with ice and snow much better than States without?
The nationwide average in Canada is under 8 – the whole country would be dark green on this map.
For what it’s worth, New Mexico is the state I felt most uncomfortable driving through, so this tracks. Unpredictable and fast, could t wait to leave that state.
Honestly surprised to see the regions with the worst winter weather are still the ones on the low end. Of course, that also means there’s so many potholes that no one can drive faster than 30, anyways.
Would love to see overlaid with corralory data.
Who has mandatory drivers ed, how strict are the drinking or smoking laws, what are the seat belts laws, phone laws, etc. Bet someone like insurance companies already have the models
Would be great to see this compared to other industrialized nations.
The reason that NY/CT/NJ is so low because millions of people in those areas take mass transportation to work and either walk to a station or have a very short drive to one.
Wonder how much of tourists driving around Yellowstone in Wyoming and Montana is a factor for the high numbers.
Why does Mississippi always finish first or last?
Australia: 4.8 in 2023
We drive less AND we have fewer deaths per distance.
The former is due to more people living in the big cities, availability of public transport in those cities and high petrol tax. The latter is possibly due to stricter rules inc a decades-long campaign against drink-driving.
why does the south suck at everything?
What the fuck is this legend?
The lowest and highest are like the same dark color, while the middle range is light?
This data is ugly and nearly unreadable.
The scale isn’t very large. It ranges from 8 to 20+
Would probably be better data if it’s was peer 100k licensed drivers. I’m sure NY is so low just because there’s lots of people and less driver than normal.
The confounding variables I would imagine are:
First and foremost, total miles driven per 100,000 people.
Second, average distance from a hospital for the average car wreck.
Third, number of drivers passing through the state. You don’t have to live in a state to be in a fatal accident in it.
In Colorado we have 75mph speed limits. So the evidence is in, driving faster is safer.
Every says MA has the worse drivers but what do you know lowest number of deaths!
Can’t believe that NY is the lowest. I drive, ride motorcycle and ride bicycle (hit from behind on a clear no-traffic straightaway) and drivers are flat out dangerous, although PA drivers are way worse. Good lord.
I would love to see how this relates to the speed limits in those areas.
Let me guess, the SUV vs normal-sized personal cars sales figures overlap quite a lot?
Do you think decent public transportation might be one of the effects? As well as the other obvious ones (seatbelt compliance, speeding laws, alcohol, etc).
Windy country roads with trees blocking views have to play a role
How does it look with car accidents per 100k fatal or not?
It would be great to see this data with high density cities removed (as a proxy for areas with good public transit). I wonder if it is the millions in NYC who are bringing the state averages down. What is the fatality rate if NYC isn’t included? Are we just better drivers or have the roads implemented safety features that other states could adopt?
I’m shocked that Michigan isn’t the deepest, darkest red. Everybody here does 90+MPH while swerving around somebody in the left lane without using their blinker and the roads are shit.