[OC] Ich bin kürzlich nach Deutschland gezogen und bemerkte, dass es nicht viele Kinder gibt. Obwohl ich selbst nicht gerade jung bin, begann ich mich zu fragen: Wie alt ist der durchschnittliche Deutsche?
[OC] Ich bin kürzlich nach Deutschland gezogen und bemerkte, dass es nicht viele Kinder gibt. Obwohl ich selbst nicht gerade jung bin, begann ich mich zu fragen: Wie alt ist der durchschnittliche Deutsche?
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AdRadiant1746 on
Did u just wake up from 100year-nap? The low birth rate has spread through the developed world for at least 10 years
Mark8472 on
Now correlate that with AfD vote share please
TukkerWolf on
Did you REALLY move to Germany? Or are you just an LLM claiming to have moved?
Impressive-Tip-1689 on
So, how old is the average German?
Frogophile on
Former East Germany is highest. Is that because of birth rates or emigration to former West Germany? I bet the latter.
Sure_Place8782 on
Nice visualisation. Where did you move to?
I would have added the state averages written on the map.
irate_alien on
What’s going on in Bremen? Is it a cool place to live?
ConcaveNips on
So you’re saying that the average age is roughly middle age. A truly shocking revelation.
ivanhoe90 on
The median age in Germany is 47 (a number of people below 47 is the same as a number of people above 47).
Fun fact: a median age in the Gaza strip is 19 (a number of people below 19 is the same as a number of people above 19).
In the USA, it is 39. In Mexico: 31. Japan: 50.
Driftmoon on
I always notice this too when i’m in Germany. So many older people everywhere! I’m from the Netherlands and although we have a big boomer (and above) population too it seems more extreme in Germany.
EZ4JONIY on
I love how people see this, and then go on the streets to protest the rise of the far right
You literally cannot stop this, democracies which were founded on being in young societies (i.e. those with more vested interested in the future of the country because they will spend more time in it) fundementally dont work when the average age is close to 50
The will of the people will only take you as far as the remaining lifespan of the average person
Have fun trying to perserve your individualistic neoliberal lifestyle in democracies, it wont work, liberalism fundemetnally destroys itself, the values it preaches and the sytem in which it thrives means that system and its affordances will decay. Fertility rates cannot be reversed as we now life in opt-in societies to pregrnacnies rather than opt-out societies and changing culture intentionally is virtually impossible. And also impossible, any pro-fertility argument that you try to conceive in a gerontocracy will be shut down, it will find no support because naturally older people dont want to vote for it (who are the majority) and yougner people that rely on the neoliberal individiaulistic lifestyle will also not vote for it becuase its „fascism“ or whatever
Germany, Japan, Italy and almost all other western countries have dug themselves into a hole from which they cant escape. Their societies, ecponomies, culturals and political systems will not survive the century.
I am german, i dont want to live in this country. Every other person i see is old, a quarter of the country votes for a far right party and any attempts to fix this will be massively unpopular with people. Most people do not want to accept the fact that its either massive changes right now that might be detrimental to their economic position, or even more massive changes in the future (i.e. pension system collapse, scratching the retirement age, even more migration, etc.)
Its the same issue as in climate change, either you do something drastic right now that will negatively impact your lifestyle or you dont do something now and suffer even worse consequences in the future.
Which points at the preciese issue of a gerontocracy. Fundementally, old people subconsciously know that they likely can just „outlive“ (or outdie) the disaster waiting to happen, so why vote for negative change now, when awaiting it likely means they wont experience it?
There is no (democratic) way out of this hole. Am i in favor of getting rid of democracy? No, but represenaative democracy is not the only form of democracy (even though 99% of people falsely believe that unless its 1 person 1 vote its not democracy).
But here lies the problem again: If the countries facing these issues had the population pyramimids of 1900, i dont belive this would even be an issue, young people would know they are the majority and that they are the force in society (not old people) and thus they would either vote out those that dont do anything or cause a revolution. But thats not going to happen. Thats the fundemdental issue of libertalism. It creates gerontocracies, at which point collapse is inevitable. All of the west has become the ottoman empire. THe sick man of the world. It is known that is a dead society, everyone is just waiting out its death.
Anyways, any sane politician would advocate for lottocracy wherein the expected lifespan left in the country determines your likelyhood of being selected as well as demeny voting. But that wont happen. Fundementally we need to somehow return democracy (which just means rule of the people, not 1 person one vote) to the fact that people, who will actually live in these countries and on this planet have the most say.
Otherwise climate goals will never be met, the far right will continue to rise and social tensions will still rise.
But i know the average redditor will read this comment and just call me a fascist white supreemcaist or something for thinking that women should have more children and that we should rethink our approach to democracy. All the while going on the street and protesting far right political parties. Gee i wonder why they are there. Did they just suddenly pop into existance for no reason? Maybe question why the thing you are protesting exists, and not jsut surface level
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Did u just wake up from 100year-nap? The low birth rate has spread through the developed world for at least 10 years
Now correlate that with AfD vote share please
Did you REALLY move to Germany? Or are you just an LLM claiming to have moved?
So, how old is the average German?
Former East Germany is highest. Is that because of birth rates or emigration to former West Germany? I bet the latter.
Nice visualisation. Where did you move to?
I would have added the state averages written on the map.
What’s going on in Bremen? Is it a cool place to live?
So you’re saying that the average age is roughly middle age. A truly shocking revelation.
The median age in Germany is 47 (a number of people below 47 is the same as a number of people above 47).
Fun fact: a median age in the Gaza strip is 19 (a number of people below 19 is the same as a number of people above 19).
In the USA, it is 39. In Mexico: 31. Japan: 50.
I always notice this too when i’m in Germany. So many older people everywhere! I’m from the Netherlands and although we have a big boomer (and above) population too it seems more extreme in Germany.
I love how people see this, and then go on the streets to protest the rise of the far right
You literally cannot stop this, democracies which were founded on being in young societies (i.e. those with more vested interested in the future of the country because they will spend more time in it) fundementally dont work when the average age is close to 50
The will of the people will only take you as far as the remaining lifespan of the average person
Have fun trying to perserve your individualistic neoliberal lifestyle in democracies, it wont work, liberalism fundemetnally destroys itself, the values it preaches and the sytem in which it thrives means that system and its affordances will decay. Fertility rates cannot be reversed as we now life in opt-in societies to pregrnacnies rather than opt-out societies and changing culture intentionally is virtually impossible. And also impossible, any pro-fertility argument that you try to conceive in a gerontocracy will be shut down, it will find no support because naturally older people dont want to vote for it (who are the majority) and yougner people that rely on the neoliberal individiaulistic lifestyle will also not vote for it becuase its „fascism“ or whatever
Germany, Japan, Italy and almost all other western countries have dug themselves into a hole from which they cant escape. Their societies, ecponomies, culturals and political systems will not survive the century.
I am german, i dont want to live in this country. Every other person i see is old, a quarter of the country votes for a far right party and any attempts to fix this will be massively unpopular with people. Most people do not want to accept the fact that its either massive changes right now that might be detrimental to their economic position, or even more massive changes in the future (i.e. pension system collapse, scratching the retirement age, even more migration, etc.)
Its the same issue as in climate change, either you do something drastic right now that will negatively impact your lifestyle or you dont do something now and suffer even worse consequences in the future.
Which points at the preciese issue of a gerontocracy. Fundementally, old people subconsciously know that they likely can just „outlive“ (or outdie) the disaster waiting to happen, so why vote for negative change now, when awaiting it likely means they wont experience it?
There is no (democratic) way out of this hole. Am i in favor of getting rid of democracy? No, but represenaative democracy is not the only form of democracy (even though 99% of people falsely believe that unless its 1 person 1 vote its not democracy).
But here lies the problem again: If the countries facing these issues had the population pyramimids of 1900, i dont belive this would even be an issue, young people would know they are the majority and that they are the force in society (not old people) and thus they would either vote out those that dont do anything or cause a revolution. But thats not going to happen. Thats the fundemdental issue of libertalism. It creates gerontocracies, at which point collapse is inevitable. All of the west has become the ottoman empire. THe sick man of the world. It is known that is a dead society, everyone is just waiting out its death.
Anyways, any sane politician would advocate for lottocracy wherein the expected lifespan left in the country determines your likelyhood of being selected as well as demeny voting. But that wont happen. Fundementally we need to somehow return democracy (which just means rule of the people, not 1 person one vote) to the fact that people, who will actually live in these countries and on this planet have the most say.
Otherwise climate goals will never be met, the far right will continue to rise and social tensions will still rise.
But i know the average redditor will read this comment and just call me a fascist white supreemcaist or something for thinking that women should have more children and that we should rethink our approach to democracy. All the while going on the street and protesting far right political parties. Gee i wonder why they are there. Did they just suddenly pop into existance for no reason? Maybe question why the thing you are protesting exists, and not jsut surface level