Die EU-Höhle in den Fahrzeughandelsregeln kostet europäische Leben, wenn US-Pick-up-Trucks in Europa überfluten
https://www.transportenvironment.org/articles/eu-cave-in-on-vehicle-trade-rules-will-cost-european-lives-as-us-pick-up-trucks-flood-into-europe
Von dyingfromtetanus
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Most people who bought a pick up truck in Europe in the past quickly noticed that now parking has become a serious problem, and they quickly regretted the idea. No change in trade rules are going to change that.
Nah, we in Europe have big dicks. We don’t have to compensate.
Edit: I just want to say this is clearly a joke about big cars smol pp. Don’t take it too seriously.
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A trade deal like that would have to be ratified in every EU country, and in some cases, states. I wish you the best of luck getting this through the ratification process.
Do those cars even comply with EU norms? For example the Cybertruck just isn’t. You can import it but you can’t (easily) register it.
Pick-up trucks are so fuel hungry that very few can afford them in the EU….
Well huh, does the deal specify that I’m obligated to buy one of these ? If not then it’s alright, be my guest trying to sell these lol. I mean, guys seriously : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fpu2qM8pWo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fpu2qM8pWo)
This will never be ratified by EU countries.
Thanks Von der Leyen.
These pickup trucks are a pain to drive even in US cities. They are more practical for rural areas. And the fuel and maintenance cost it is no joke, even here in the US.
Edit: some people are just idiots and buy cars they cannot afford and end up paying $1500-1800 a month just because they need to feel a real man with a pickup truck. Brainwashed by GE commercial that you need a truck to have balls 😆
The same people proceed to cry like babies when gas goes over 3 $/Gal because it costs too much.
Plain idiocracy.
What are people on this sub talking about? „US pick up trucks flood into Europe because of the trade deal“? No regulation has changed! No deals are signed. IF ‚US trucks are flooding into Europe right now‘ it has nothing to do with any of that… And they still have to comply with EU regulations which again HAVE not changed!
There is this desire to find an outlet for the feeling of frustration and humiliation people in this sub seem to feel over the grand US bully not getting hit in the nose and I fully understand that. I feel that!
But this should be energy going towards productive steps to improve said independence. To let your representatives know you’re unhappy with this.
Calling doom and gloom over imagined consequence äs of a trade deal we know nothing about and will not know for months is just exhausting to ask of us with no real upside.
There already are pick up trucks in Europe. I see them on occasion in Brussels, but very rarely.
A change in trade rules will not suddenly make these gas guzzling monstrocities any more practical on our roads, not to mention the taxes you will pay.
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Unpopular opinion but I don’t have a local option that can tow an excavator or a loader while being the secondary family car for vacation trips. We live so rurally that the electricity transfer fees are insane, twice as much as the electricity itself isn’t enough. Vans just don’t have the road clearance and they only have diesel options that can’t pass yearly inspections due to strict emission regulations.
So I need a heavy petrol or a reliable pre 2014 (no adblue) diesel truck. Hilux/Land Cruiser? Sure if it wasn’t expensive as hell. Land Rover? So unreliable it’ll make your head spin. An old Suburban for 10k? Sure.
I mean hate me for it but it’s not for showing off, it just makes more sense for me. Had to learn a lot about repairing these myself because specialized shops will tear your arm off. But it has been cheap, efficient and extremely comfortable this last decade.
PS: I run it on ethanol, wish there were more gas stations with E85 around.
And please, consider giving me good options instead of just having opinions for once. Because frankly buying a third and fourth vehicle makes no sense to me when we manage fine with these two. (Daily is a 0.9L Dacia and it’s doing a great job)
Who, who will be buying these plastic oversized elephant mobiles?
If you need a pick up or an offroad vehicles there plenty that are made to fit Europe and adapt to our way…
These won’t sell…
Plus Idk about west Europe but here in the northeast
US vehicles period are sold primarily on second car (used) market and most come from USA after they been fixed because most have gotten into accidents or crashes.
That’s why here when you buy a used American car there’s expectation that the airbag may not work…
They can do like in Tubingen, where the higher parking fees for SUV and big cars, subsidy the Deutschland Ticket for its citizens (the ticket that allows you to travel in the whole German public transport system) and reduce the price from 58 euros to just 45…
[https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.deutschlandticket-in-einer-stadt-ist-es-dank-suv-fahrern-billiger.67c0a70c-1ede-4f48-aab6-abe3771f694d.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com](https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.deutschlandticket-in-einer-stadt-ist-es-dank-suv-fahrern-billiger.67c0a70c-1ede-4f48-aab6-abe3771f694d.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com)
The fact that I keep seeing massive Ford Raptors in freaking Athens, Greece is insane to me.
Not only they don’t have a single scratch on them or anything on their bed, but they also take enough space for at least two small cars.
Furthermore, these things are death traps. They have zero visibility and I’ve seen multiple of these death machine hit motorcyclists when they file through traffic, and also seen them hit a few tiny EV cars because they simply can’t see them.
Even if you were a contractor, just get a freaking van, like it has been the case for decades.
They won’t flood anything.
– The trade deal can’t and won’t be enforced.
– No one wants to buy those shitty things.
– Those things can’t enter our cities nor parking spots for literally being too big.
Stop with doom posting over these things.
Here is an idea: just don’t fucking buy them.
I personally wouldn’t mind in principle to get an American car – plushy sedan or small SUV that has that godly suspension tuning. Unfortunately almost all cars bar the S-class have an insanely hard suspension tuning in Europe – even their direct counterparts sold in NA market have a much more comfy ride. I rode a Hyundai Elantra in an uber back to back the same model in two continents and the difference is amazing. Car makers think Europeans want a hard suspension and punchy gearbox shifts. Anyone working in automotive industry will confirm me that cars have a different „tuning“ for locations.
I definitely wouldn’t get a massive full-size SUV or anything like that, it’s way too unpractical for our roads and parking situation.
These things are already priced out of the market by fuel costs
„pick-up trucks flood into Europe?“ Who’s buying these garbage trucks?! It’s not like they are even remotely affordable? Show me the flood! Pics or it didn’t happen and this is propaganda..
This is assuming people will buy those things. They’re super expensive and super gas inefficient.
One of the best parts about visiting Europe is not having to worry about these oversized monsters in the roads. I’m so sad if you guys get saddled with these pavement princess machines like the guys who drive them here.
This assumes customers will actually buy them.
I just can’t compute why people want these monstrosities in the first place. I’ve been forced to drive SUVs a few times as courtesy cars and it was dreary to put it mildly. The trucks are just laughable.
Pure click bait and no trucks are flooding. And downvote for that!
Thing is, they still have to comply with EU regulation
Throwing all of our dignity, safety away for this monstrosity! Beside failing to reach our climate goals, these ridiculous piece of metals are way too big for small streets in old villages and cities, too big for most if not all parking spaces and it will end up destroying a lot of stuffs because the driver can’t see anything right around the stupid vehicle.
The articles says that, but no one is going to buy these US trucks because they’ll be so expensive to run in terms of fuel and insurance. Yes you can buy them, but I don’t think people will.
As if. Can’t park anywhere urban. Maybe there is a niche use if you’re out in the country side but even then a construction van is almost always the way to go. Whenever I see a small pp truck I get mildly annoyed and then console myself with the knowledge the driver probably dislikes his own truck even more. And then I haven’t even mentioned the shit fuel economy or maintenance cost. The only way I can see these asshole trucks ever become mainstream is if for some reason we suddenly all start building parking spots twice the size – can’t see that happening either.
What the fuck is that headline?
Guys, don’t worry nothing will change
World doesn’t care about regulations. There’s already TONS of US imported pick-ups, through loopoles etc
Same loopoles to get EU cars in Dubai or Japan, get Chinese cars in the EU… there are so many ways, because not every country has strict import rules you import one there and reimport it in yout country under „free circulation of goods“.
So that’s why you see so many RAMs around.
Also, the average RAM is not that different from a BMW X7 or Mercedes GLS in terms of size weight and pollution. It’s not a „USA bad“ situation, it’s a „many people don’t give a fuck about others“ situation
This is quite disturbing
I drive a RAM pickup in the US, I couldn’t imagine driving one when I’m back in Europe regularly. Though, I did see someone somehow managed to park one in a parking garage in Hamburg and I was pretty impressed. I thought getting my Tiguan in there was a tight squeeze..
You need a customer to purchase the things. I wouldn’t worry about an invasion 🙄
Wtf is the use for them there?? Lmaooo
„flood“ implies that any significant number of people will want to buy them.
From the article, it sounds like this is just a move to placate Trump so he can claim a victory. You’re probably not going to see a bunch of Ford f-150s in the streets of Munich unless people are willing to spend money on that bullshit. So here’s the solution: Don’t buy it
Lets be honest, will they?
US manufactures have tried to crack the European market with vehicles that they design for the US market, and they don’t sell here
They are too inefficient, too big and just don’t have much appeal beyond a small section
European designs seem to do far better other there, so there clearly is a market for more compact efficient cars there
I simply can’t see it being a major issue, and beyond contractors and builders, for whom a large pickup style truck, could indeed be a practical choice, I do not see them being major sellers
The comments are full time whiners. If you spent that much energy enacting change maybe things would be better
These are everywhere in the Netherlands. Absolutely disgusting.