News snippet: Moscow threw Donald Trump’s Ukraine peace initiative into disarray on Thursday, insisting it must have a veto over any postwar support for the country as its forces carried out a large-scale overnight missile barrage.
In a series of hardline remarks, Russia’s foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, said European proposals to deploy troops in Ukraine after a settlement would amount to “foreign intervention”, which he called absolutely unacceptable for Russia.
Lavrov said Russia wanted to return to discussing a framework first proposed during the initial peace talks held in Istanbul in 2022, under which Moscow and Beijing would help guarantee Ukraine’s security alongside European allies – terms Kyiv considers unacceptable.
“We support the principles and security guarantees that were agreed … in April 2022,” Lavrov said. “Anything else … is of course an absolutely futile undertaking.”
European leaders are exploring possible security guarantees for Ukraine after the war, building on Trump’s promise to back the country under any settlement with Russia. France, Britain and Estonia have indicated they could send troops to a postwar Ukraine, while several other nations said they might take part, though much depends on US involvement.
Problem-child-ADHD on
„Moscow and Beijing would help guarantee Ukraine’s security“ lmao
1800_DOCTOR_B on
It Russia isn’t careful Trump might have to threetan them with tarrifs or an imaginary deadline again.
FollowingFeisty5321 on
Time to saturate Ukraine with aerial defenses so attacking them is futile and expensive.
badstuffaround on
Trump’s „efforts“ are going nowhere. Every few weeks we get these statements that peace is close or a deal will be made. Putin has made Russia’s position clear, so has Zelensky regarding Ukraine.
Nothing Trump has done is bringing peace closer. Only empty meetings and talks ad infinitum.
I do not see any way out of this until one side breaks on the frontline. Extremely heartbreaking seeing Russia destroying Ukraine daily. Their country will be completely ruined after this war simply because of the Russian people and their cowardly ways.
Fucking sad.
PleaseMayIHaveAnothr on
LOL what a crazy headline…
1. Russia and Trump don’t dictate what happens in Ukraine. Ukraine is a free country. Ukraine commands what happens in Ukraine, and is actively fighting a war to defend that right.
2. There’s no such thing as European Troops. EU countries have merged many financial and legal systems, but each nation keeps their own military structure.
Bonyred on
Trump – if only Joe Biden had started WWIII we wouldn’t be in this mess!
DeanXeL on
So peace troops, but not American, not European? What, just… Russian?
66stang351 on
So the one positive from the summit (Russia agreeing to security gaurantees) was a nothing burger? Very shocking
Crazy_Reporter_7516 on
What is Trumps veiled threats?
AeroFX on
How can an aggressor propose that it deploys troops into the very country it is invading, to maintain its sovereignty 😂
Dense-Ambassador-865 on
Asswipe Pedo President.
You_Will_Fail1 on
russia rules out non russian troops to be in a non russian country?
roonill_wazlib on
If it was up to me Europe would put troops in the uninvaded provinces tomorrow
Raspberries-Are-Evil on
Why does Russia get any say?
ZeroKarma6250 on
Fuel shortages….the logistics system is failing hard this week. Maybe in month or two we are going to start seeing the start of famine if they can’t operate farm machinery.
Ewendmc on
But foreign intervention by Russia is allowed…/S
Russia is the aggressor and an occupier. They broke the fourth Geneva convention and the international community should pull their finger out and start treating Russia like the pariah it is. No demands. No special treatment.
The_mingthing on
„Russia rules out European troops in Ukraine“
That is NOT their desition to make.
Jazzlike_Painter_118 on
Russia is not in a position to rule anything out.
Character-Marzipan49 on
Trump is being played along.. IMO Putin right now feels he has the upperhand with all the troops he has in Ukraine right now on offense. Why would he stop now? He’ll probably stop when he runs out of troops or Winter hits and he can’t make any progress.
Willy-Sshakes on
I ruled out my ex banging her new partner…. However
Thai_Jet on
Putin has the cards. Sad but true
warrant2k on
It’s all a coordinated show. They banter back and forth, so news and media fill up with anything but the Epstein files.
Trump is in the Epstein files.
Epstein files have trumps name.
Files with trumps name, made by Epstein.
Epstein. Trump.
dkuznetsov on
Europe should rule out Russian troops in Ukraine.
Destrukt0r on
Yeah because russia is gonna tel us what to do and how to act.
SeriesMindless on
Some facts for people confused about where support stands and who sides where in this conflict.
Hint: Only a small sliver stands with Russia.
Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the UN has held multiple high-profile votes on the war. The General Assembly has been the main stage, and the pattern is clear: a strong majority of the world’s nations have repeatedly backed Ukraine, while only a small handful have stood with Russia.
In March 2022, the very first resolution (ES-11/1) condemning the invasion passed with 141 votes in favour, just 5 against (Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Syria, Eritrea) and 35 abstentions. A similar humanitarian resolution that month drew nearly identical numbers. The following April, the General Assembly suspended Russia from the UN Human Rights Council. That vote exposed more divisions: 93 countries voted to suspend, 24 voted against (including China and Iran), and 58 abstained. In October 2022, a resolution denouncing Russia’s annexation of four Ukrainian regions again passed overwhelmingly with 143 in favour, 5 against and 35 abstentions. By February 2023, the Assembly approved another text calling for a “comprehensive, just and lasting peace” with 141 in favour, 7 against and 32 abstentions.
As the war dragged on, support for Ukraine remained, but the margins grew slimmer. In February 2025, a resolution calling once again for Russian withdrawal passed with 93 in favour, 18 against and 65 abstentions. A subsequent amended text had 93 in favour, 8 against, 73 abstentions and 19 present but not voting. The erosion wasn’t in Russia gaining new backers, but in more countries choosing to sit on the sidelines.
The Security Council has been trickier. Russia’s veto blocks anything directly condemning Moscow. Still, in February 2025 the Council adopted Resolution 2774 with 10 votes in favour, none against and 5 abstentions (including France and the UK). It was the first substantive Council text on Ukraine since the war began, but European critics argued it was watered down, avoiding both condemnation of Russia and a clear defense of Ukraine’s territorial sovereignty.
The global split looks stark. On one side, Ukraine is supported in the UN by the vast majority of countries across Europe, the Americas, and much of Asia and Africa. On the other side, Russia can count only a small, consistent core of allies: Belarus, North Korea, Syria, Nicaragua, and Eritrea. The abstainers—ranging from India and China to dozens of African and Middle Eastern states—represent the middle ground, often unwilling to alienate either side.
If you add up populations, the story gets sharper. The countries voting consistently for Ukraine represent over 4 billion people, including India’s neighbour democracies, Europe, the Americas, Japan, and much of Africa. Russia’s tiny bloc of “no” votes represents under 400 million people total. But when you factor in abstainers like China, India, and others, nearly 3 billion people are in the “neutral” column. The picture is not a world split evenly in two, but one where Russia is isolated, Ukraine has clear majority backing, and a very large slice of humanity prefers to stay in the middle because war is messy.
SRM_Thornfoot on
Russia is just Stalin‘.
guitarner on
We’ve been lost to fascsim its time europe walks away from counting on us as a true ally
_Twas_Ere_ on
“Trump on Thursday appeared to vent his frustration at Russia’s obstruction. In a post on Truth Social, the US president blamed his predecessor, Joe Biden, for not allowing Ukraine to “fight back” against Russia.
“It is very hard, if not impossible, to win a war without attacking an invaders country. It’s like a great team in sports that has a fantastic defense, but is not allowed to play offense. There is no chance of winning! It is like that with Ukraine and Russia. Crooked and grossly incompetent Joe Biden would not let Ukraine FIGHT BACK, only DEFEND. How did that work out? … Interesting times ahead!!!” Trump wrote.
Trump’s veiled threats against Russia will be welcomed in Kyiv and European capitals, though the US leader has previously backed away from imposing sanctions or boosting support for Ukraine.”
Jesus Christ, what an absolute buffoon.
Carpaccio on
I don’t think Russia gets to make that ruling
ohiotechie on
Russia rules out European troops? Why do they have a say? Can the EU rule out NK troops too?
Dramatic_Survey_5743 on
Why the fuck are we even talking to Russia anymore at this point. All this shit seems so fake to me.
serger989 on
Well, they didn’t rule out non Russian troops. Fuck Russia. Fuck Putin.
jhaden_ on
I’ll just leave this here…
>“I think he wants to make a deal,” Trump said quietly. “I think he wants to make a deal for me. Do you understand? As crazy as it sounds.“
„The gangster says he is against sending the police!“
“ Oh, ok- sorry, so we don’t send in the police than“
EconoAlchemist on
It’s beyond my understanding why European countries with strong armies don’t threaten to send troops behind the front line as soon as possible (I’m from an European country)
snakesnake9 on
Russia does not have a say in what sovereign nations do on their territory.
Capitain_Collateral on
The nature of deploying troops does not always require the consent of both belligerents. It is why, typically, we fucking arm them.
yosarian_reddit on
Russia : Ukraine can have security arrangements as long as they provide no security.
This is all hypothetical anyway. Putin has zero intention of agreeing to peace. He wants and needs ongoing war.
dmetzcher on
> Russia rules out European troops in Ukraine
It’s cute that they believe they have the authority to do that. The only authority they have is the authority Europe gives them.
Forget about Donald Trump—European nations do not require US approval of a god damned thing. Put the troops there, and tell Russia that if any of them are harmed, it means war, in which case all Russian soldiers on the Ukrainian side (including Crimea and the Donbas) will be wiped out of existence.
Russia is not going to launch nukes unless there’s an existential threat to the Russian homeland. This is not that. Putin will be forced to pull back.
It would be nice if my idiot president weren’t a Russian puppet, but he is, and that’s the reality. Proceed as if we will do nothing because we *will* do nothing. Trump will whine—ignore his fat ass.
treetopalarmist_1 on
Not for him to say
EdOfTheMountain on
Ukraine need long range support for offensive destruction of Russian assets.
Trump is doing what Putin tell him. Delay. While Putin slowly pounds Ukraine to rubble like he did to Syria.
brite1234 on
Well, did the West rule out North Korean troops in russia, or does only russia get to dictate to everyone?
Olobnion on
I just ruled out Russian missiles and drones in Ukraine, so Russia can’t send those anymore.
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News snippet: Moscow threw Donald Trump’s Ukraine peace initiative into disarray on Thursday, insisting it must have a veto over any postwar support for the country as its forces carried out a large-scale overnight missile barrage.
In a series of hardline remarks, Russia’s foreign minister, Sergei Lavrov, said European proposals to deploy troops in Ukraine after a settlement would amount to “foreign intervention”, which he called absolutely unacceptable for Russia.
Lavrov said Russia wanted to return to discussing a framework first proposed during the initial peace talks held in Istanbul in 2022, under which Moscow and Beijing would help guarantee Ukraine’s security alongside European allies – terms Kyiv considers unacceptable.
“We support the principles and security guarantees that were agreed … in April 2022,” Lavrov said. “Anything else … is of course an absolutely futile undertaking.”
European leaders are exploring possible security guarantees for Ukraine after the war, building on Trump’s promise to back the country under any settlement with Russia. France, Britain and Estonia have indicated they could send troops to a postwar Ukraine, while several other nations said they might take part, though much depends on US involvement.
„Moscow and Beijing would help guarantee Ukraine’s security“ lmao
It Russia isn’t careful Trump might have to threetan them with tarrifs or an imaginary deadline again.
Time to saturate Ukraine with aerial defenses so attacking them is futile and expensive.
Trump’s „efforts“ are going nowhere. Every few weeks we get these statements that peace is close or a deal will be made. Putin has made Russia’s position clear, so has Zelensky regarding Ukraine.
Nothing Trump has done is bringing peace closer. Only empty meetings and talks ad infinitum.
I do not see any way out of this until one side breaks on the frontline. Extremely heartbreaking seeing Russia destroying Ukraine daily. Their country will be completely ruined after this war simply because of the Russian people and their cowardly ways.
Fucking sad.
LOL what a crazy headline…
1. Russia and Trump don’t dictate what happens in Ukraine. Ukraine is a free country. Ukraine commands what happens in Ukraine, and is actively fighting a war to defend that right.
2. There’s no such thing as European Troops. EU countries have merged many financial and legal systems, but each nation keeps their own military structure.
Trump – if only Joe Biden had started WWIII we wouldn’t be in this mess!
So peace troops, but not American, not European? What, just… Russian?
So the one positive from the summit (Russia agreeing to security gaurantees) was a nothing burger? Very shocking
What is Trumps veiled threats?
How can an aggressor propose that it deploys troops into the very country it is invading, to maintain its sovereignty 😂
Asswipe Pedo President.
russia rules out non russian troops to be in a non russian country?
If it was up to me Europe would put troops in the uninvaded provinces tomorrow
Why does Russia get any say?
Fuel shortages….the logistics system is failing hard this week. Maybe in month or two we are going to start seeing the start of famine if they can’t operate farm machinery.
But foreign intervention by Russia is allowed…/S
Russia is the aggressor and an occupier. They broke the fourth Geneva convention and the international community should pull their finger out and start treating Russia like the pariah it is. No demands. No special treatment.
„Russia rules out European troops in Ukraine“
That is NOT their desition to make.
Russia is not in a position to rule anything out.
Trump is being played along.. IMO Putin right now feels he has the upperhand with all the troops he has in Ukraine right now on offense. Why would he stop now? He’ll probably stop when he runs out of troops or Winter hits and he can’t make any progress.
I ruled out my ex banging her new partner…. However
Putin has the cards. Sad but true
It’s all a coordinated show. They banter back and forth, so news and media fill up with anything but the Epstein files.
Trump is in the Epstein files.
Epstein files have trumps name.
Files with trumps name, made by Epstein.
Epstein. Trump.
Europe should rule out Russian troops in Ukraine.
Yeah because russia is gonna tel us what to do and how to act.
Some facts for people confused about where support stands and who sides where in this conflict.
Hint: Only a small sliver stands with Russia.
Since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the UN has held multiple high-profile votes on the war. The General Assembly has been the main stage, and the pattern is clear: a strong majority of the world’s nations have repeatedly backed Ukraine, while only a small handful have stood with Russia.
In March 2022, the very first resolution (ES-11/1) condemning the invasion passed with 141 votes in favour, just 5 against (Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Syria, Eritrea) and 35 abstentions. A similar humanitarian resolution that month drew nearly identical numbers. The following April, the General Assembly suspended Russia from the UN Human Rights Council. That vote exposed more divisions: 93 countries voted to suspend, 24 voted against (including China and Iran), and 58 abstained. In October 2022, a resolution denouncing Russia’s annexation of four Ukrainian regions again passed overwhelmingly with 143 in favour, 5 against and 35 abstentions. By February 2023, the Assembly approved another text calling for a “comprehensive, just and lasting peace” with 141 in favour, 7 against and 32 abstentions.
As the war dragged on, support for Ukraine remained, but the margins grew slimmer. In February 2025, a resolution calling once again for Russian withdrawal passed with 93 in favour, 18 against and 65 abstentions. A subsequent amended text had 93 in favour, 8 against, 73 abstentions and 19 present but not voting. The erosion wasn’t in Russia gaining new backers, but in more countries choosing to sit on the sidelines.
The Security Council has been trickier. Russia’s veto blocks anything directly condemning Moscow. Still, in February 2025 the Council adopted Resolution 2774 with 10 votes in favour, none against and 5 abstentions (including France and the UK). It was the first substantive Council text on Ukraine since the war began, but European critics argued it was watered down, avoiding both condemnation of Russia and a clear defense of Ukraine’s territorial sovereignty.
The global split looks stark. On one side, Ukraine is supported in the UN by the vast majority of countries across Europe, the Americas, and much of Asia and Africa. On the other side, Russia can count only a small, consistent core of allies: Belarus, North Korea, Syria, Nicaragua, and Eritrea. The abstainers—ranging from India and China to dozens of African and Middle Eastern states—represent the middle ground, often unwilling to alienate either side.
If you add up populations, the story gets sharper. The countries voting consistently for Ukraine represent over 4 billion people, including India’s neighbour democracies, Europe, the Americas, Japan, and much of Africa. Russia’s tiny bloc of “no” votes represents under 400 million people total. But when you factor in abstainers like China, India, and others, nearly 3 billion people are in the “neutral” column. The picture is not a world split evenly in two, but one where Russia is isolated, Ukraine has clear majority backing, and a very large slice of humanity prefers to stay in the middle because war is messy.
Russia is just Stalin‘.
We’ve been lost to fascsim its time europe walks away from counting on us as a true ally
“Trump on Thursday appeared to vent his frustration at Russia’s obstruction. In a post on Truth Social, the US president blamed his predecessor, Joe Biden, for not allowing Ukraine to “fight back” against Russia.
“It is very hard, if not impossible, to win a war without attacking an invaders country. It’s like a great team in sports that has a fantastic defense, but is not allowed to play offense. There is no chance of winning! It is like that with Ukraine and Russia. Crooked and grossly incompetent Joe Biden would not let Ukraine FIGHT BACK, only DEFEND. How did that work out? … Interesting times ahead!!!” Trump wrote.
Trump’s veiled threats against Russia will be welcomed in Kyiv and European capitals, though the US leader has previously backed away from imposing sanctions or boosting support for Ukraine.”
Jesus Christ, what an absolute buffoon.
I don’t think Russia gets to make that ruling
Russia rules out European troops? Why do they have a say? Can the EU rule out NK troops too?
Why the fuck are we even talking to Russia anymore at this point. All this shit seems so fake to me.
Well, they didn’t rule out non Russian troops. Fuck Russia. Fuck Putin.
I’ll just leave this here…
>“I think he wants to make a deal,” Trump said quietly. “I think he wants to make a deal for me. Do you understand? As crazy as it sounds.“
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-hot-mic-moment-putin-zelensky-ukraine-russia-b2810036.html
Ukraine rules out Russian troops in Ukraine.
„We will send in the police!“
„The gangster says he is against sending the police!“
“ Oh, ok- sorry, so we don’t send in the police than“
It’s beyond my understanding why European countries with strong armies don’t threaten to send troops behind the front line as soon as possible (I’m from an European country)
Russia does not have a say in what sovereign nations do on their territory.
The nature of deploying troops does not always require the consent of both belligerents. It is why, typically, we fucking arm them.
Russia : Ukraine can have security arrangements as long as they provide no security.
This is all hypothetical anyway. Putin has zero intention of agreeing to peace. He wants and needs ongoing war.
> Russia rules out European troops in Ukraine
It’s cute that they believe they have the authority to do that. The only authority they have is the authority Europe gives them.
Forget about Donald Trump—European nations do not require US approval of a god damned thing. Put the troops there, and tell Russia that if any of them are harmed, it means war, in which case all Russian soldiers on the Ukrainian side (including Crimea and the Donbas) will be wiped out of existence.
Russia is not going to launch nukes unless there’s an existential threat to the Russian homeland. This is not that. Putin will be forced to pull back.
It would be nice if my idiot president weren’t a Russian puppet, but he is, and that’s the reality. Proceed as if we will do nothing because we *will* do nothing. Trump will whine—ignore his fat ass.
Not for him to say
Ukraine need long range support for offensive destruction of Russian assets.
Trump is doing what Putin tell him. Delay. While Putin slowly pounds Ukraine to rubble like he did to Syria.
Well, did the West rule out North Korean troops in russia, or does only russia get to dictate to everyone?
I just ruled out Russian missiles and drones in Ukraine, so Russia can’t send those anymore.