The same reason why your name is in capital letters on your national and legal documents…
You are John or Daisy… Not JOHN or DAISY.
Search about that
Interesting-Kale-106 on
So basically, your country was built on the foundation of esoteric occult understanding.
a secret society under the control of the most rich and powerful men in the world, who openly say they have no allegiance to no country, government or power save themselves, could become the world’s power house of banking, military power and authority and break away from monarchy to create a country that is entirely run by themselves.
They used words like freedom and self government ,yet you guys do absolutely nothing to stop it from being taken away?
Honestly at this point it’s the citizens problem of being to complacent.
DummCunce on
As a photographer – the photography permit shit is the most insane. You’re not allowed to use a “professional camera” per government rules at any state park. I can’t even take pics of my kids without being harassed and told I need to buy a $200 permit. Fucking INSANE.
Low_Shirt2726 on
So, life and society 200 years ago were much more simple. Fewer people, different values and less crime, greater sense of civic duty.
Alot of these things on the list, nearly all realky, support administrative expenses, infrastructure, maintenance, etc. For example, you like clean-ish parks, nice camping areas, roads and trails within? Gotta pay for those things
GeniusEE on
You’re confusing liberty with a privilege to use public resources.
No license? – get off MY roads and bridges.
CustomCarNerd on
Everything is regulated for your safety…..
LucentLunacy on
Yeah Toll roads are just straight up restricting freedom of movement.
insulinworm on
The world the founding fathers lived in was completely different than our own
What constitutes a „liberty“ is also open to interpretation, like its your god-given right to be able to use the toll road or kill as much wildlife as humanly possible?
NFLBengals22 on
Dude. This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen. Most of those licenses & permits are due to safety & illegal activity. Stop trying to reach.
FreeLitt1eBird on
Because people don’t take care of liberties requiring them to become privileges to pay people to care of them.
wtfw7f on
„If any man’s money can be taken by a so-called government, without his own personal consent, all his other rights are taken with it; for with his money the government can, and will, hire soldiers to stand over him, compel him to submit to its arbitrary will, and kill him if he resists.“
– Lysander Spooner
lordhooha on
Also rights vs privilege. Then you have the cost to maintain roads, lakes, fisheries etc that money has to come from somewhere to pay the ppl that do these jobs and the infrastructure. There’s also the 10th amendment which allows the state to make laws for themselves.
Say cannabis is federally decriminalized and no longer classified as a controlled substance. The individual state can still make laws based on it. Just like alcohol % limits in beer is different from state to state.
djmw08 on
“What happened” is liberties in this case is defined as constitutional rights, therefore no state can convert a constitutional right into a privilege and require a license for it, which is still true, except for maybe some states and their obscene gun laws.
Short_Composer1754 on
Taken incrementally…
Semantics…not a licence but a „permit“
Informal-Maize7672 on
Toll roads are private roads
TurbulentResort1169 on
# BOGUS
You can read the Supreme Court opinions online. Neither of those quotes are in the opinions and neither of those cases has anything to do with any of those licenses.
“You won’t have anything, and you’ll be happy”
It always comes down to that phrase.
One-Win9407 on
Hunting licenses help keep wildlife populations stable. During the great depression deer were almost killed off in some areas due to overhunting and poaching.
This is really a dumbass post tbh we are facing serious problems but paying for boat registration is not one of them.
SomeNoveltyAccount on
>Why do we get taxed on our liberties?
Because this cited decision has nothing to do with licensing fees, and doesn’t contain either of the mentioned quotes.
I wonder how many of these existed before 1948? It seems like western society has been on a downhill trajectory ever since then.
ralphcifarettoo on
Welcome to our late stage capitalist dystopia where almost everything is commodified. Crazy how Marx predicted this would be the outcome in the 1800s
South-Rabbit-4064 on
I live in one of the few lovely states, possibly only, that charges people for their own solar panels per kW.
drbirtles on
Some make sense, some are fucking stupid.
No-stradumbass on
Because of unchecked capitalism.
Here’s the shitty part. Let’s say we remove the government from the market. Then a non government for profit entity would just take over and make it worse.
Candy_Store_Pauper on
The list is interesting, because several of the items are easily and regularly violated, because enforcement is minimal.
But, other things are important for the well being of the society or the individual. For example, a construction permit isn’t a bad thing. It’s why we don’t have tin roof ramshackle mud walled slums that blow away in a strong wind everywhere. And driving is a privilege, not a right. But, even many of the drivers holding the licensed privilege seem to regularly struggle with the hand to body coordination of steering, acceleration, braking and maneuvering a vehicle. Don’t believe me? Then you ain’t been driving anywhere for more than 5 miles. Ever since the „virus“, it seems like folks have forgotten everything from basic courtesies to laws of physics when in motion. If anything, since almost every accident is preventable, with causation rooted in one or more of those involved doing something they shouldn’t have been, or not doing something they should have. But, that goes all the way back to the beginning of motorization:
One item on the list is a constitutional right. The right to bear arms. It’s been said that an armed society is a polite society. But, then again, even THAT statement is flawed:
However, there is one license or permit that doesn’t exist yet, and, of all on the list, would have more of a positive impact, if implemented. Because, currently, any biological male and female with fully operational downstairs plumbing can get together and bring another human being into existence. Regardless of the condition of their upstairs computer, be it defective, damaged, broken or deficient. There should be a license to procreate, because if there were better „parents“, there’d be better children. And if there were better children, a lot of the licenses and permits on the list wouldn’t be as necessary. And the movie „Idiocracy“ would be for entertainment purposes only, rather than a foreboding documentary.
Radiant-Spot-128 on
I get the licensing and permits come for safety, etc. The problem is the state turns it into a money making system rather than focusing on the main goal which is to serve the public. That’s my opinion.
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The same reason why your name is in capital letters on your national and legal documents…
You are John or Daisy… Not JOHN or DAISY.
Search about that
So basically, your country was built on the foundation of esoteric occult understanding.
a secret society under the control of the most rich and powerful men in the world, who openly say they have no allegiance to no country, government or power save themselves, could become the world’s power house of banking, military power and authority and break away from monarchy to create a country that is entirely run by themselves.
They used words like freedom and self government ,yet you guys do absolutely nothing to stop it from being taken away?
Honestly at this point it’s the citizens problem of being to complacent.
As a photographer – the photography permit shit is the most insane. You’re not allowed to use a “professional camera” per government rules at any state park. I can’t even take pics of my kids without being harassed and told I need to buy a $200 permit. Fucking INSANE.
So, life and society 200 years ago were much more simple. Fewer people, different values and less crime, greater sense of civic duty.
Alot of these things on the list, nearly all realky, support administrative expenses, infrastructure, maintenance, etc. For example, you like clean-ish parks, nice camping areas, roads and trails within? Gotta pay for those things
You’re confusing liberty with a privilege to use public resources.
No license? – get off MY roads and bridges.
Everything is regulated for your safety…..
Yeah Toll roads are just straight up restricting freedom of movement.
The world the founding fathers lived in was completely different than our own
What constitutes a „liberty“ is also open to interpretation, like its your god-given right to be able to use the toll road or kill as much wildlife as humanly possible?
Dude. This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen. Most of those licenses & permits are due to safety & illegal activity. Stop trying to reach.
Because people don’t take care of liberties requiring them to become privileges to pay people to care of them.
„If any man’s money can be taken by a so-called government, without his own personal consent, all his other rights are taken with it; for with his money the government can, and will, hire soldiers to stand over him, compel him to submit to its arbitrary will, and kill him if he resists.“
– Lysander Spooner
Also rights vs privilege. Then you have the cost to maintain roads, lakes, fisheries etc that money has to come from somewhere to pay the ppl that do these jobs and the infrastructure. There’s also the 10th amendment which allows the state to make laws for themselves.
Say cannabis is federally decriminalized and no longer classified as a controlled substance. The individual state can still make laws based on it. Just like alcohol % limits in beer is different from state to state.
“What happened” is liberties in this case is defined as constitutional rights, therefore no state can convert a constitutional right into a privilege and require a license for it, which is still true, except for maybe some states and their obscene gun laws.
Taken incrementally…
Semantics…not a licence but a „permit“
Toll roads are private roads
# BOGUS
You can read the Supreme Court opinions online. Neither of those quotes are in the opinions and neither of those cases has anything to do with any of those licenses.
* [Murdock v. Pennsylvania, 319 U.S. 105 (1943)](https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/319/105/)
* [Shuttlesworth v. City of Birmingham, 373 U.S. 262 (1963)](https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/373/262/)
“You won’t have anything, and you’ll be happy”
It always comes down to that phrase.
Hunting licenses help keep wildlife populations stable. During the great depression deer were almost killed off in some areas due to overhunting and poaching.
This is really a dumbass post tbh we are facing serious problems but paying for boat registration is not one of them.
>Why do we get taxed on our liberties?
Because this cited decision has nothing to do with licensing fees, and doesn’t contain either of the mentioned quotes.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/394/147/
I wonder how many of these existed before 1948? It seems like western society has been on a downhill trajectory ever since then.
Welcome to our late stage capitalist dystopia where almost everything is commodified. Crazy how Marx predicted this would be the outcome in the 1800s
I live in one of the few lovely states, possibly only, that charges people for their own solar panels per kW.
Some make sense, some are fucking stupid.
Because of unchecked capitalism.
Here’s the shitty part. Let’s say we remove the government from the market. Then a non government for profit entity would just take over and make it worse.
The list is interesting, because several of the items are easily and regularly violated, because enforcement is minimal.
But, other things are important for the well being of the society or the individual. For example, a construction permit isn’t a bad thing. It’s why we don’t have tin roof ramshackle mud walled slums that blow away in a strong wind everywhere. And driving is a privilege, not a right. But, even many of the drivers holding the licensed privilege seem to regularly struggle with the hand to body coordination of steering, acceleration, braking and maneuvering a vehicle. Don’t believe me? Then you ain’t been driving anywhere for more than 5 miles. Ever since the „virus“, it seems like folks have forgotten everything from basic courtesies to laws of physics when in motion. If anything, since almost every accident is preventable, with causation rooted in one or more of those involved doing something they shouldn’t have been, or not doing something they should have. But, that goes all the way back to the beginning of motorization:
[https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/31807/when-and-where-was-first-car-accident](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/31807/when-and-where-was-first-car-accident)
One item on the list is a constitutional right. The right to bear arms. It’s been said that an armed society is a polite society. But, then again, even THAT statement is flawed:
[https://www.nevadacarry.org/blog/an-armed-society-is-a-polite-society-does-not-mean-what-you-think-it-means](https://www.nevadacarry.org/blog/an-armed-society-is-a-polite-society-does-not-mean-what-you-think-it-means)
However, there is one license or permit that doesn’t exist yet, and, of all on the list, would have more of a positive impact, if implemented. Because, currently, any biological male and female with fully operational downstairs plumbing can get together and bring another human being into existence. Regardless of the condition of their upstairs computer, be it defective, damaged, broken or deficient. There should be a license to procreate, because if there were better „parents“, there’d be better children. And if there were better children, a lot of the licenses and permits on the list wouldn’t be as necessary. And the movie „Idiocracy“ would be for entertainment purposes only, rather than a foreboding documentary.
I get the licensing and permits come for safety, etc. The problem is the state turns it into a money making system rather than focusing on the main goal which is to serve the public. That’s my opinion.