Trump schließt die Ukraine aus, die Krim zurückerobert oder sich der NATO anschließt, während sich europäische Führer in Washington versammeln

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/18/trump-ukraine-crimea-nato-zelesnkyy-washington-meeting

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    1. „No getting back Obama given Crimea (12 years ago, without a shot being fired!), and no going into Nato by Ukraine“

      This is an unserious and incoherent person.

    2. Didn’t Trump want to leave NATO? Bet he now stays in to veto, same way Russia does in international orgs.

    3. Signed by Trump Aug 2, 2017:

      https://congress.gov/115/plaws/publ44/PLAW-115publ44.pdf

      Section 257 (a) „STATEMENT OF POLICY.—It is the policy of the United States—

      (3) to never recognize the illegal annexation of Crimea by the Government of the Russian Federation or the separation of any portion of Ukrainian territory through the use of military force

    4. Another gift for Putin. What exactly has he negotiated for Ukraine’s benefit?

    5. i_love_rosin on

      Dear Leader kowtowing to putler yet again? I thought he was going to end the invasion on day 1?

    6. Trump and Putin want to make it easier to conquer Ukraine.

      The grift is real!

    7. invalidpassword on

      As much as they should, I always doubted war-weary Ukraine would get Crimea back. However, they have every right to be a part of NATO, IMO. Who the fuck does a diplomatic failure like Trump think he is to tell the world who can or cannot be a member of NATO. Trump, you’re a colossal disgrace as our President — for crap’s sake — leave the rest of the world alone.

    8. CT_Phipps-Author on

      „And what does Russia give up in return?“

      „I don’t understand.“

    9. Badrobot214 on

      How would tRump react if he had to turn over Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina to Mexico?

    10. TimHuntsman on

      “Trump spreads wrinkly butt cheeks wider for Pooot In”

      There! Fixed the Lede

    11. Any-Original-6113 on

      Ukraine and the EU can reject the Trump-Putin agreement and continue fighting the Kremlin
      They are already buying weapons from the United States.

    12. Oh look, that aligns perfectly with what Putin has been saying since the start. Purely a coincidence of course…

    13. CommercialRemote3325 on

      Trump doesnt understand limits…. like under 18 for instance. 

    14. time_drifter on

      Trump can sit down and sundown. He doesn’t pick the borders and the world is slowly shifting to sideline him while telling him he is the ‘goodest boy.’ It’s like manipulating a golden retriever with a steak.

    15. Additional_Hippo_878 on

      🌮 Who gives a rat’s arse what Day-Glo Mussolini says? Not me, nor billions of others. Slava Ukraini! 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇨🇦🇲🇽🇪🇺🇬🇧

    16. Than a peace is a total non-starter.

      If Ukraine doesn’t join NATO, what is stopping Russia from just invading again a few years from now?

      I get that Trump is Putin’s pawn, but he’s *really* bad at it. Europe and Ukraine see right through his „peace“ talk.

    17. SwimmingPirate9070 on

      Question. Can anyone tell me one benefit to The American People that Russia has provided? Never mind all of the horrific shit Russia is responsible for. Just name one single thing that Russia has done that was ever a win for America! And this mother fucker is bending over and letting Vlad penetrate him and America live on TV.

      If not Russian Proxy, why so obviously Russian owned

    18. Odious. Feckless. Craven. Corrupt. Deplorable.

      Trump and his cabal of kleptocrats, oligarchs, wholly compromised fellow travellers and their nihilistic cult are a disgrace.

    19. The goal is to set some sort of peace plan that they know Ukraine will never agree to because there is zero good faith left to negotiate with Putin on. That way when the Ukraine rejects these unseemly conditions nobody trusts Putin to abide that Trump put forth Trump can say they don’t want peace and use that to roll back more aid to the Ukraine, reduce sanctions on Russia, pull back even more NATO funding, and claim he wants to make peace in the region.

      Note this isn’t Trump’s plan. It’s Putin’s and by hook or crook he’s convinced Trump to make this US policy.

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