Putin, um Trump mit ‚historischen Materialien‘ zu präsentieren, um die Ukraine als künstlichen Staat zu fordern, behauptet Kyiv,

    https://kyivindependent.com/putin-to-present-trump-with-historical-materials-framing-ukraine-as-artificial-state-kyiv-claims/

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    1. Haha oh boy is he going to do a history lesson again like with Tucker Carlson. He’s so detached from reality, if people weren’t dying because of it it would be funny.

    2. As long as Putin flatters Trump, and/or pretends that Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Price, and/or gives Trump a gold statue like Tim Apple did, Trump will believe anything Putin says.

    3. Putin: Here are the historical materials in my possession. I believe they’re often referred to as the „Epstein Files“.

      Trump: Would you like an Alaska with your Ukraine?

    4. FredUpWithIt on

      Oh, historical materials. Cool. So he’ll be advocating for the entirety of Ukraine and Russia to be returned to the Swedes. Wow! I did _not_ see _that_ coming.

      >The settlement of Russia by the Rus, who were largely Swedish Vikings (also known as Varangians), began with their arrival in the mid-9th century. They established trading posts and settlements along major river routes, eventually forming the state of _Kievan Rus with Novgorod and Kiev_ as key centers. The Rurik dynasty, founded by the Viking leader Rurik, ruled Kievan Rus for centuries, significantly shaping its political and cultural landscape. 

    5. Trump is one of the few people outside of Russia that will be stupid enough to believe it, too.

    6. Lonely-Abalone-5104 on

      Just like Trump will try to do with Canada and his “imaginary lines”

    7. subUrbanMire on

      The part of this performance that will require the *most* suspension of disbelief is when Trump pretends he can read above a 5th-grade level.

    8. This is just gonna be more of his revisionist bs 2021 essay on the historical unity of Russia and Ukraine. More of his February 2022 special military operation bs.

      Same stuff we have heard before.

      It’s going to be more of putins twisted justifications.

      Thing is Trump might just swallow it all up the the good little puppet boy he is

    9. gentleman_bronco on

      So a war criminal and a pedophile get together to discuss their shared vision of a third sovereign nation.

      Trump will offer Putin Alaska and conservatives in America will celebrate.

    10. PurpsMaSquirt on

      Isn’t it incredible watching two men in their 70s, who likely will not be alive in 10 years, casually making harmful decisions that will massively affect the lives of countless millions around the world for many years long after they are dead.

    11. ProductGuy48 on

      Here he is making a huge mistake because the orange pedo hates to be lectured on anything lol

    12. Ozymannoches on

      Trump is susceptible to heavy influence by the person with whom he has most recently spoke.  I hope he doesn’t make any decisions at this meeting or soon after.

    13. MRLEGEND1o1 on

      The whole meeting is a charade… Putin will give Trump his orders and trump will carry them out.

      How much do you want to bet they don’t record anything during this meeting.

      How do I know? Because you all have goldfish brains …the last time they met they turned off the recorders and he also shut down the national archives so there is never a record of these two speaking unless it’s in public.

      Anything a our leaders say to other world leaders needs to be recorded for historical and transparency purposes…

      Watch Trump’s subservient body language around Putin… pathetic

    14. thoughtxchange on

      Oh ok – so they aren’t nazis now – which was the original reasoning for the war. It’s all about them being an artificial state. Got it! What an insane shit show.

    15. Holiday_Archer4237 on

      Who was first? The chicken 🐔or the egg 🥚 ?

      It doesn’t matter. What matters are the agreement Russia signed. Recognizing Ukraine and Crimea as a country.

    16. Ah yeah, Putin the Historian is going to show up again! These usually last over an hour. Better bring visual aids because he is going to lose Trump 6 seconds in.

    17. No_Reality_404 on

      Plot twist he’s arrested and War ends world rejoices. Then I actually wake up…and realize America is gone.

    18. Every. Single. Fucking. Country. Is. Artificial. What the fuck is that supposed to mean? I hate living on this shithole planet.

    19. Trump better laugh that bs off. China tried the same shit for the islands they dispute with everybody.

    20. My fucking god, this whole discussion is so stupid, one truly does lack the vocabulary necessary to describe how brainless it is.

      Okay, so let’s let Mongolia have all the land they had at some point in history. Time for the British Empire to celebrate a revival. How about the Roman Empire, let Italy (or whatever country would be a good match today) have the entire Mediterranean area again. I’m sure other countries can find just as much „historical material“ to back their claims. Just ask ChatGPT if you’re unsure!

      Let’s go back to Pangaea and have two of the most imbecile old men alive as supreme rulers! Yay!

      I’m so tired of reading about how the most inept fucks just pretend to be kings and everyone else paying the price day after day.

    21. The Trump is going swallow that propaganda and start touting how Ukraine is rightfully apart of Russia.

    22. AceOfSpades532 on

      What does an artificial state mean exactly, all states are artificial if that’s a thing you can say. The Russian Federation was created after the USSR, the USA was created by settlers and uniting states, the Balkan states were made from Yugoslavia, the UK is made of 4 countries, literally every country can be argued to not exist in this way.

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