Unless you’re farming the Highlands, there’s never less than 1m people within 100 miles. Hell, more like 10m in most places.
I think you’ll find someone.
InformationNew66 on
How is there a worker shortage with record levels of immigration?
Impressive-Car4131 on
Need to go back to the old ways and offer worker housing on the farms for free or v low rent and offer apprenticeships to school leavers. The article says people don’t have the skills but that’s reliant on the farms being willing to provide training too. Arla clearly need to expand their apprenticeship scheme.
Dairy farmers don’t say „not paying good wages to workers and giving them better working conditions“ is contributing to worker shortage, but it really is.
It is the half of capitalism we choose not to talk about. That for capitalism to work, it needs for workers to be able to demand what they feel their labour is worth. If you can’t get workers on low pay and bad conditions, you need to improve those things until the workers are willing to do it.
BigFloofRabbit on
Meanwhile, I keep seeing threads made by people on Reddit complaining that they can’t find a job.
99thLuftballon on
Brexiters told us very clearly that they would fill these jobs once we left the EU. Why aren’t they stepping up? Did they lie?
CuriousThylacine on
So hire some of the 4.7% of people who are unemployed.
the_magicwriter on
Oh dear, could the farmers be regretting their Brexit vote, surely the benefits are endless
gymdaddy9 on
People are less and less accepting exploitation wages with no hope of getting on in the world if they were paying £20 ph I bet there wouldn’t be a shortage then
arenaross on
Well if this isn’t the consequences of your own decisions coming home to roost.
Get Farage and his mates working the farms.
Ok_Bat_686 on
I notice that Arla don’t advertise their wages on their careers page.
Random_Guy_47 on
Have they tried paying higher wages?
If you can’t find someone to do a job that usually works pretty well.
NoRecipe3350 on
I’ve tried to get work in the agricultural sector several times in my life, and I’ve never been successful. No response, callback, nothing.
I coincidentally have a generic white British name.
Dadavester on
We as a country are addicted to cheap labour. This is a key symptom of it.
Instead of paying proper wages and having decent conditions, farmers will import cheap foreign labour and charge them for room, board and internet as well.
Supermarkets will use their size to force these Farmers to sell produce as cheap as they, meaning the profit margins are tiny. And this will keep our food prices low.
Rather than pay wages, and have working conditions, British workers will tolerate everyone wants to import, what is basically, one rung above slave labour so that prices are kept low.
Breaking this addiction will be painful. But it is needed if we want real wage growth.
DocRhubarb on
They are dairy farmers. How is it threatening food security? Nobody needs milk to survive.
PhantomFairy on
The big fruit farms near me can’t get Pickers anymore. They used to be on a circuit with the same team of pickers every year, but that’s dried up.
Last year they tried to hire local gym users. They did a „Get paid to exercise, come pick fruit!“. They had a very good turnout, but no-one lasted more than two hours and they didn’t take it seriously, they were chatting and putting obviously rotten fruit in the „good“ pile.
Lanfeix on
During Covid, these farmers were revealed to be abusive. They turned down UK workers because they didn’t want them to be able to come and go as they wanted. They wanted workers to be forced to pay rent and live in the poor accommodation and only go out to market when the farmer went out to market one day a week. The government even wrote into the Covid regulations allowing for this practice.
Every-Switch2264 on
The townies on here are thrilled about this, as expected.
Sea-Caterpillar-255 on
Dairy farmers say their refusal to pay workers enough is endangering UK food security
GladAbbreviations981 on
Its okay this will be fixed with appetite suppresants and ozempic
parasoralophus on
I did a day helping out at a dairy farm once it’s pretty grim – and apparently that was one of the nicer ones. Combine that with shit wages…
Available-Ear7374 on
We don’t really have a free market.
1. Government wants cheap, reasonable quality food, so put pressure in various places in the food chain to make this happen, subsidies, regulations etc.
2. Supermarkets have a strangle hold on the supply chain, there’s only really 4 major players so they get to dictate prices and rules, and because of point 1, they’ve driven prices for farmers into the ground.
3. Automation is the name of the game, but that requires investment and that requires governments to stop moving goal posts and that’s one thing governments love to do above all else.
If I were a farmer in this market, I’d sell the farm for development and go live off the proceeds (if it’s enough and I’m not drowning in debt) Because for every year there’s a profit, there’s another 3 where you only break even or make a loss.
DeeplyProfound_ on
goto the local job centre. plenty of people are able to work and dont
r3ckless- on
Maybe we could do something where someone who comes here as an immigrant has a choice to do jobs like this, get paid, and have it look good on their ‚record‘ while they go through the immigration process?
Purely by choice though. We don’t do slavery.
FelisCantabrigiensis on
If they had not voted for it then it would not have happened.
I’m going to need a smaller violin.
Helios_AI on
The wages aren’t gouda’nuff, pay people a bit more cheddar and they’ll brie all over it.
Concerned-CitizenUK on
Plenty of people on benefits that could do these jobs
klydefrog89 on
We have perfectly able and willing young people to work shit jobs for shit money and they will like it.. oh actually
On_The_Blindside on
Because no work is worth it when the only thing that makes money in this country is moving other people’s money around.
Services based economy for you.
baddymcbadface on
People saying… Pay Higher wages.
They can’t. They are competing with EU imports. If they raise prices to pay higher wages their market share goes down.
Unfortunately the answers are either…
Let that happen.
Tariff EU milk (and completely blow up the trade deal).
Increase farm worker visas.
Pay more in subsidies. I assume trade deals also have an impact but so does cost and political appetite.
Designer-Welder3939 on
Get the people protesting outside the hotels to help! Get them to work in old age homes too! My mum needs her bum wiped and would prefer if some bigot did it.
GhostRiders on
Jesus there are so many people talking absolute rubbish…
Pre-Brexit and Covid most Farms, whether it be Fruit, Dairy or, Vegetable would use agencies to recruit seasonal workers.
These agencies would hire people who did this for a living overseas and bring them to the UK.
The agency workers would be paid minimum wage and most farmers would have caravans, porter cabins etc in a corner of one their fields for the workers to stay in.
The workers would spend x number of months in the UK, working long days 6, sometimes 7 days a week.
Even thou they were minimum wage because of the long hours they worked and their spending was minimal they could earn a lot money so it was well worth their time.
Then the one two punch of Brexit and Covid made coming to the UK no longer worth it.
They can earn more money going to Spain, France, Germany, Greece, Netherlands etc.. andnot be hated by the public or media like in the UK.
SpencersCJ on
Our unemployment rate is 4.7%. 16-24 is like 14%. Is there really no way to help get these people out of work into places like this that need workers? No doubt the pay is abysmal and wouldn’t cover even a fraction of what people need to live now
radiant_0wl on
Sounds like an advertising problem.
Maybe they should start with the basics and list hours and wages in their job descriptions.
What the Government should do is pay for kids in schools to drive.{Like America.}. How much money then would you save in the long term due to kids actually having the skill to drive when they left. And then they could drive to the farms.
Mclarenrob2 on
The general public must think farmers never stop moaning about something 😅
But it has been one thing after another this year.
snakeoildriller on
Do we not have prisons bursting at the seams with potential workers, who might actually progress into farming full time?
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Pay more.
Unless you’re farming the Highlands, there’s never less than 1m people within 100 miles. Hell, more like 10m in most places.
I think you’ll find someone.
How is there a worker shortage with record levels of immigration?
Need to go back to the old ways and offer worker housing on the farms for free or v low rent and offer apprenticeships to school leavers. The article says people don’t have the skills but that’s reliant on the farms being willing to provide training too. Arla clearly need to expand their apprenticeship scheme.
My heart bleeds.
Have they tried leveraging [their „strong financial performance“ last year](https://www.arla.com/company/news-and-press/2025/pressrelease/arla-foods-achieves-strong-financial-performance-in-2024/#:~:text=In%202024%2C%20Arla%20Group's%20total,demand%20and%20effective%20cost%20management.) to pay those lower level workers more?
I wonder if there’s a non zero amount of would be applicants that have been turned off by the [horrific abuse of cows at arla farms in the past?](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/cows-animal-abuse-arla-milk-b2711148.html)
Dairy farmers don’t say „not paying good wages to workers and giving them better working conditions“ is contributing to worker shortage, but it really is.
It is the half of capitalism we choose not to talk about. That for capitalism to work, it needs for workers to be able to demand what they feel their labour is worth. If you can’t get workers on low pay and bad conditions, you need to improve those things until the workers are willing to do it.
Meanwhile, I keep seeing threads made by people on Reddit complaining that they can’t find a job.
Brexiters told us very clearly that they would fill these jobs once we left the EU. Why aren’t they stepping up? Did they lie?
So hire some of the 4.7% of people who are unemployed.
Oh dear, could the farmers be regretting their Brexit vote, surely the benefits are endless
People are less and less accepting exploitation wages with no hope of getting on in the world if they were paying £20 ph I bet there wouldn’t be a shortage then
Well if this isn’t the consequences of your own decisions coming home to roost.
Get Farage and his mates working the farms.
I notice that Arla don’t advertise their wages on their careers page.
Have they tried paying higher wages?
If you can’t find someone to do a job that usually works pretty well.
I’ve tried to get work in the agricultural sector several times in my life, and I’ve never been successful. No response, callback, nothing.
I coincidentally have a generic white British name.
We as a country are addicted to cheap labour. This is a key symptom of it.
Instead of paying proper wages and having decent conditions, farmers will import cheap foreign labour and charge them for room, board and internet as well.
Supermarkets will use their size to force these Farmers to sell produce as cheap as they, meaning the profit margins are tiny. And this will keep our food prices low.
Rather than pay wages, and have working conditions, British workers will tolerate everyone wants to import, what is basically, one rung above slave labour so that prices are kept low.
Breaking this addiction will be painful. But it is needed if we want real wage growth.
They are dairy farmers. How is it threatening food security? Nobody needs milk to survive.
The big fruit farms near me can’t get Pickers anymore. They used to be on a circuit with the same team of pickers every year, but that’s dried up.
Last year they tried to hire local gym users. They did a „Get paid to exercise, come pick fruit!“. They had a very good turnout, but no-one lasted more than two hours and they didn’t take it seriously, they were chatting and putting obviously rotten fruit in the „good“ pile.
During Covid, these farmers were revealed to be abusive. They turned down UK workers because they didn’t want them to be able to come and go as they wanted. They wanted workers to be forced to pay rent and live in the poor accommodation and only go out to market when the farmer went out to market one day a week. The government even wrote into the Covid regulations allowing for this practice.
The townies on here are thrilled about this, as expected.
Dairy farmers say their refusal to pay workers enough is endangering UK food security
Its okay this will be fixed with appetite suppresants and ozempic
I did a day helping out at a dairy farm once it’s pretty grim – and apparently that was one of the nicer ones. Combine that with shit wages…
We don’t really have a free market.
1. Government wants cheap, reasonable quality food, so put pressure in various places in the food chain to make this happen, subsidies, regulations etc.
2. Supermarkets have a strangle hold on the supply chain, there’s only really 4 major players so they get to dictate prices and rules, and because of point 1, they’ve driven prices for farmers into the ground.
3. Automation is the name of the game, but that requires investment and that requires governments to stop moving goal posts and that’s one thing governments love to do above all else.
If I were a farmer in this market, I’d sell the farm for development and go live off the proceeds (if it’s enough and I’m not drowning in debt) Because for every year there’s a profit, there’s another 3 where you only break even or make a loss.
goto the local job centre. plenty of people are able to work and dont
Maybe we could do something where someone who comes here as an immigrant has a choice to do jobs like this, get paid, and have it look good on their ‚record‘ while they go through the immigration process?
Purely by choice though. We don’t do slavery.
If they had not voted for it then it would not have happened.
I’m going to need a smaller violin.
The wages aren’t gouda’nuff, pay people a bit more cheddar and they’ll brie all over it.
Plenty of people on benefits that could do these jobs
We have perfectly able and willing young people to work shit jobs for shit money and they will like it.. oh actually
Because no work is worth it when the only thing that makes money in this country is moving other people’s money around.
Services based economy for you.
People saying… Pay Higher wages.
They can’t. They are competing with EU imports. If they raise prices to pay higher wages their market share goes down.
Unfortunately the answers are either…
Let that happen.
Tariff EU milk (and completely blow up the trade deal).
Increase farm worker visas.
Pay more in subsidies. I assume trade deals also have an impact but so does cost and political appetite.
Get the people protesting outside the hotels to help! Get them to work in old age homes too! My mum needs her bum wiped and would prefer if some bigot did it.
Jesus there are so many people talking absolute rubbish…
Pre-Brexit and Covid most Farms, whether it be Fruit, Dairy or, Vegetable would use agencies to recruit seasonal workers.
These agencies would hire people who did this for a living overseas and bring them to the UK.
The agency workers would be paid minimum wage and most farmers would have caravans, porter cabins etc in a corner of one their fields for the workers to stay in.
The workers would spend x number of months in the UK, working long days 6, sometimes 7 days a week.
Even thou they were minimum wage because of the long hours they worked and their spending was minimal they could earn a lot money so it was well worth their time.
Then the one two punch of Brexit and Covid made coming to the UK no longer worth it.
They can earn more money going to Spain, France, Germany, Greece, Netherlands etc.. andnot be hated by the public or media like in the UK.
Our unemployment rate is 4.7%. 16-24 is like 14%. Is there really no way to help get these people out of work into places like this that need workers? No doubt the pay is abysmal and wouldn’t cover even a fraction of what people need to live now
Sounds like an advertising problem.
Maybe they should start with the basics and list hours and wages in their job descriptions.
https://careers.arla.com/job/Aylesbury-Production-Operator-Aylesbury-Dairy/1229775901/
What the Government should do is pay for kids in schools to drive.{Like America.}. How much money then would you save in the long term due to kids actually having the skill to drive when they left. And then they could drive to the farms.
The general public must think farmers never stop moaning about something 😅
But it has been one thing after another this year.
Do we not have prisons bursting at the seams with potential workers, who might actually progress into farming full time?