Why are we giving non UK nationals benefits in the first place? Because in any other country, you lose your job you’ve lost your visa and you’re kicked out.
AgeZealousideal6865 on
2021 census says there’s 4.1 million EU citizens with settled status in the UK resulting in an unemployment rate of around 19% for this grouping.
tb5841 on
Misleading headline, as it equates ‚Universal Credit‘ with being unemployed.
Those are not the same. Two thirds of people claiming universal credit are actually in work.
badgerandcheese on
Of course it had to be GB News.
Universal Credit doesn’t necessarily mean unemployed.
robbitybobs on
My wife’s from Africa. Came here the right way, paid the extortionate uni prices, waited in the (very long) queue and got residency. In the wider African community she’s part of she often comments to me how the government is seen as a joke and the system is not to be listened to but to be gamed. It infuriates her as someone who did it the right way and its quite funny to see her go off on illegal immigrants to the white leftists as they can’t throw back the usual ‚you’re just racist‘ to her. Really exposes their lack of ability to defend their position.
Lad69_7 on
New batch of GBeebies slop has been served, have at it reformorons
No-Environment-5939 on
Do they just mean immigrants who got ILR? regardless it’s gross to think about
swordoftruth1963 on
The vast majority of these are EU citizens settled here before Brexit where their rights were expressly maintained, as were the rights of Brits living in the EU
Rorydinho on
Universal credit shouldn’t be topping up wages for a start, it’s essentially the government subsidising poor-paying employers’ profits.
Migrants shouldn’t be working in these jobs as they absolutely will not be skilled jobs. Unemployed people already living here should be coaxed into these jobs.
Migrants absolutely shouldn’t be receiving benefits as that money could be better spent elsewhere (NHS, education, police, transport, employment schemes etc.).
Additionally, many migrants send remittance payments back to their home countries – this is money that is being directly extracted from the British economy and redirected to other countries’ economies.
A true triple whammy of making the nation poorer and further imperilling the country’s finances.
parasoralophus on
More propaganda from yet another opaque dark money Tufton Street ‚think tank‘, yay.
Why is this supposed to be news?
There are around 8 million people in the UK who claim universal credit, 1.3 million of which are not British citizens.
16% of the UK population are non-UK nationals, so this number is to be expected
This constant anti-immigrant rhetoric needs to stop, it does not help anyone except Reform Uk who want to win the next election using hate, fear and division.
The bigger problem is the job market and the fact that so many are claiming benefits, regardless of nationality
bonbonron on
The usual rage bait headlines getting the pensioners all riled up.
This country is so going to vote for that farage muppet.
Roundkittykat on
These are two separate things. One can be employed and receive universal credit – or unemployed and not claim universal credit.
Unlike UK citizens, many foreign nationals can only claim universal credit if they’re *in work*
Objective_Try8133 on
I think it’s clear from the comments here that firstly a lot of you haven’t read the article and secondly have a poor understanding of how visas work.
dJunka on
Fucking hell GBnews guys. We’ve fallen pretty far in the last year. They’re not even a news source by their own definition.
1-Xander-1 on
so 16% of the 8 million on uc are foreign. i personally dont care what nationality. what matters more is whether they have worked, paid their taxes, and been honest, law-abiding and productive individuals.
plenty of our native populace on UC dont do any of those things.
appletinicyclone on
Gbnews dot com
Okay imma start linking morning star online then if you all going try these bait articles
RoyalT663 on
I can imagine this is a well vetted and robust statistic with no way that the title is misleading in any way…
Valcenia on
Why in the ever-loving-fuck is GB News even allowed to be posted here. Like seriously. It’s bad enough that the Daily Mail and Telegraph are permitted, but, at the very least, they pretend to be factual sources of information. GB News is just an organisation of straight-up bullshit merchants, and that’s not uncommon knowledge. This headline, for example, is just a complete and utter lie. Not a half-truth, not a twisting of words, just an actual, outright lie. Why is this allowed?
knowledgewarrior2018 on
1.3m is still way too many. I have lived abroad before and if you dont have the means to support yourself you are out – no questions asked. This is nonsense, no serious country would ever let itself get to this point.
GenerallyDull on
If you are from another country and cannot sustain yourself – you should return to your home country.
Old_Doughnut_193 on
I dont understand what the fk this is supposed to mean. Im a foreign student but under no terms and circumstances can i receive or have received a single fucking penny from the government.
What does that mean? What does non-uk mean? Do the first generation british also fall into it, what about second or third generations? What foreigners? What does a foreigner mean?
I think about this but an ol tommy at spoons on benefits looking snarky at me wont think about this like that.
This is the type of rhetoric that sheds negative light onto us. The type of headline that the anti-immigration protestors take one glance, feed their foreign hate sentiment and once again we become the problem.
False-Tea-6308 on
Click bait. Unless you have IRL you do not have access to public funds.
SoggyWarz on
Haha 1.3million foreigners on UC, but when I needed it they made my life hell so I gave up (Probably the idea).
furious-pig on
This country is honestly fucked. It will soon be a shell country. I mean it basically already is. All work is outsourced, we have a few fat cats. Standard of living is shite, wages are shit, no housing, no infrastructure. Everything has red tape around it, we have no control over our borders. There’s an insane amount of infighting and we’re more divided than ever.
PresentationAny4456 on
We’re needing to dig super dams as rainfall lowers and temperatures rise… And the population goes out of control through the rise of population due to migrant families.
wjfox2009 on
Why are people upvoting garbage from the hard-Right GBNews?
Reflex81 on
The only non UK nationals who can claim benefits are those with indefinite leave to remain, which means they are entitled to stay in the UK. Visa holders / asylum seekers can’t claim benefits.
Dull_World4255 on
Why is it when something like this is posted, the left work vigorously in order to either a) incorrectly say the statement is false (it’s actually not), or, b) try to portray it as a good thing and then in their next breath, start claiming we should tax the wealthy because the countries broke?!
If you’re aware the country is in financial crisis, why would you not want to see money spent on an ever increasing number of dependent non-nationals?! Literally makes no sense.
Is it more important for someone one the left to simply get their own way or be seen as being the righteous and/or one of the ‚good guys‘, than it is to simply apply some common sense?
And before anyone starts to claim I’m a Farage supporter, I’m not! I simply can see what is happening before my own eyes.
A wealth tax based around assets may be a good way to go, but it never worked in France or Scandinavia and in fact cost almost as much to administer as it actually generated.
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Why are we giving non UK nationals benefits in the first place? Because in any other country, you lose your job you’ve lost your visa and you’re kicked out.
2021 census says there’s 4.1 million EU citizens with settled status in the UK resulting in an unemployment rate of around 19% for this grouping.
Misleading headline, as it equates ‚Universal Credit‘ with being unemployed.
Those are not the same. Two thirds of people claiming universal credit are actually in work.
Of course it had to be GB News.
Universal Credit doesn’t necessarily mean unemployed.
My wife’s from Africa. Came here the right way, paid the extortionate uni prices, waited in the (very long) queue and got residency. In the wider African community she’s part of she often comments to me how the government is seen as a joke and the system is not to be listened to but to be gamed. It infuriates her as someone who did it the right way and its quite funny to see her go off on illegal immigrants to the white leftists as they can’t throw back the usual ‚you’re just racist‘ to her. Really exposes their lack of ability to defend their position.
New batch of GBeebies slop has been served, have at it reformorons
Do they just mean immigrants who got ILR? regardless it’s gross to think about
The vast majority of these are EU citizens settled here before Brexit where their rights were expressly maintained, as were the rights of Brits living in the EU
Universal credit shouldn’t be topping up wages for a start, it’s essentially the government subsidising poor-paying employers’ profits.
Migrants shouldn’t be working in these jobs as they absolutely will not be skilled jobs. Unemployed people already living here should be coaxed into these jobs.
Migrants absolutely shouldn’t be receiving benefits as that money could be better spent elsewhere (NHS, education, police, transport, employment schemes etc.).
Additionally, many migrants send remittance payments back to their home countries – this is money that is being directly extracted from the British economy and redirected to other countries’ economies.
A true triple whammy of making the nation poorer and further imperilling the country’s finances.
More propaganda from yet another opaque dark money Tufton Street ‚think tank‘, yay.
[https://bylinetimes.com/2024/02/15/another-new-anti-immigration-pressure-group-is-launched-from-tufton-street-and-met-with-reams-of-media-coverage/](https://bylinetimes.com/2024/02/15/another-new-anti-immigration-pressure-group-is-launched-from-tufton-street-and-met-with-reams-of-media-coverage/)
Why is this supposed to be news?
There are around 8 million people in the UK who claim universal credit, 1.3 million of which are not British citizens.
16% of the UK population are non-UK nationals, so this number is to be expected
This constant anti-immigrant rhetoric needs to stop, it does not help anyone except Reform Uk who want to win the next election using hate, fear and division.
The bigger problem is the job market and the fact that so many are claiming benefits, regardless of nationality
The usual rage bait headlines getting the pensioners all riled up.
This country is so going to vote for that farage muppet.
These are two separate things. One can be employed and receive universal credit – or unemployed and not claim universal credit.
Unlike UK citizens, many foreign nationals can only claim universal credit if they’re *in work*
I think it’s clear from the comments here that firstly a lot of you haven’t read the article and secondly have a poor understanding of how visas work.
Fucking hell GBnews guys. We’ve fallen pretty far in the last year. They’re not even a news source by their own definition.
so 16% of the 8 million on uc are foreign. i personally dont care what nationality. what matters more is whether they have worked, paid their taxes, and been honest, law-abiding and productive individuals.
plenty of our native populace on UC dont do any of those things.
Gbnews dot com
Okay imma start linking morning star online then if you all going try these bait articles
I can imagine this is a well vetted and robust statistic with no way that the title is misleading in any way…
Why in the ever-loving-fuck is GB News even allowed to be posted here. Like seriously. It’s bad enough that the Daily Mail and Telegraph are permitted, but, at the very least, they pretend to be factual sources of information. GB News is just an organisation of straight-up bullshit merchants, and that’s not uncommon knowledge. This headline, for example, is just a complete and utter lie. Not a half-truth, not a twisting of words, just an actual, outright lie. Why is this allowed?
1.3m is still way too many. I have lived abroad before and if you dont have the means to support yourself you are out – no questions asked. This is nonsense, no serious country would ever let itself get to this point.
If you are from another country and cannot sustain yourself – you should return to your home country.
I dont understand what the fk this is supposed to mean. Im a foreign student but under no terms and circumstances can i receive or have received a single fucking penny from the government.
What does that mean? What does non-uk mean? Do the first generation british also fall into it, what about second or third generations? What foreigners? What does a foreigner mean?
I think about this but an ol tommy at spoons on benefits looking snarky at me wont think about this like that.
This is the type of rhetoric that sheds negative light onto us. The type of headline that the anti-immigration protestors take one glance, feed their foreign hate sentiment and once again we become the problem.
Click bait. Unless you have IRL you do not have access to public funds.
Haha 1.3million foreigners on UC, but when I needed it they made my life hell so I gave up (Probably the idea).
This country is honestly fucked. It will soon be a shell country. I mean it basically already is. All work is outsourced, we have a few fat cats. Standard of living is shite, wages are shit, no housing, no infrastructure. Everything has red tape around it, we have no control over our borders. There’s an insane amount of infighting and we’re more divided than ever.
We’re needing to dig super dams as rainfall lowers and temperatures rise… And the population goes out of control through the rise of population due to migrant families.
Why are people upvoting garbage from the hard-Right GBNews?
The only non UK nationals who can claim benefits are those with indefinite leave to remain, which means they are entitled to stay in the UK. Visa holders / asylum seekers can’t claim benefits.
Why is it when something like this is posted, the left work vigorously in order to either a) incorrectly say the statement is false (it’s actually not), or, b) try to portray it as a good thing and then in their next breath, start claiming we should tax the wealthy because the countries broke?!
If you’re aware the country is in financial crisis, why would you not want to see money spent on an ever increasing number of dependent non-nationals?! Literally makes no sense.
Is it more important for someone one the left to simply get their own way or be seen as being the righteous and/or one of the ‚good guys‘, than it is to simply apply some common sense?
And before anyone starts to claim I’m a Farage supporter, I’m not! I simply can see what is happening before my own eyes.
A wealth tax based around assets may be a good way to go, but it never worked in France or Scandinavia and in fact cost almost as much to administer as it actually generated.