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33 Kommentare
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VPN service located outside of the EU.
Neutral and undecided may as well be in favor when talking about such a blatant attack on people’s privacy and the elimination of rights we should have on the basis of being human.
No one knows because even if your government is opposing this BS map isn’t showing this. Who made opposing/neutral in same color?
I strongly oppose this as a Dane, but I am not surprised. Our government is unhinged; they are taxing us so hard the state has a 5% of GDP surplus while several parts of healthcare and social security have broken down, they took away a holiday saying we needed to earn money money, and they are causing crazy inflation. Beef has increased in price by over 100% in the last year.
And now they want to monitor our chat?
This has all gone to hell. I need to contact them – this is unacceptable.
Can this be avoided by not using Google or Apple OS?
Remember to write your representatives
EXCEPT POLITICIANS. Just fuck off.
This entire thing stinks. Road to China but without long term planning.
What a fucking disgrace, it’s clear one cannot take fundamental rights for granted.
So I propose:
– Civilian surveillance ❌️
– Politician surveillance ✅️
Who works for who, and who has the biggest track record of corruption, your average law-abiding civilian, or the politicians with their hands in the cookie jar, tempted by the smell and salivating?
What I am really concerned of is that there will be a huge leak of personal info, including passwords, legal data, personal preferences, even privat stuff.This may and will be misused by the people in control.Can this prevent certain crimes, surely, but, most likely it will create a whole layer of the other criminal agenda.
It’s a strange question given that in not too distant future encryption and privacy will be a thing of the past when you listen to some narratives re: new generation computing, etc
Graphene OS should help. But we would be a few among the masses.
I am all for it IF I get to see the politician’s chats first
The problem is the following in my opinion.
This works for educated countries, where people elect non corrupt people. If all EU was in this case, I don’t see a problem with the gov controlling the phones and messages. This would stop the russian hybrid attack, this would stop a lot of terrorist organizations, radicals, and so on.
In cases where there’s corrupt politicians, this gives them the power to silence and control narratives and maintain their corruption mandate
Majority of the countries in favor are the countries effected by mass migration and huge crime rates mostly from those individuals. They probably have a strong need for this type of incentive.
The problem is that they’ll get it eventually. We should already be thinking of solutions that would just make this impossible.
Hmmmm. So Europe fights US bullying and tariffs.
Europeans then fight for the right of US corporations to know what is being communicated amongst Europeans and to prevent European governments getting access to the European knowledge that is being screened for US security purposes and monetised by US companies.
Can’t figure that one out…
I’m surprised nothing like a petition has been created / widely circulated here.
Literally 1984😭
„Except politicians“? Yeah, of course, rules for thee but not for me. Lots of horse shit these days that flies as „child protection“ to argument for Orwellian laws.. how stuff like this can be compatible with the principles of freedom, civil/human rights?
Interesting: The Netherlands is opposing or neutral about it, but we are part of the [nine-eyes.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes#Other_international_cooperatives) A reason why some people avoid VPN and DNS services in those countries.
In most european ountries, chatcontrol is unconstitutional – as it breaks the consitutional right to privacy of communication bye letters, emails or otherwise. Please contact whichever body enforces your consitution, and they can sue the elected goverment for breaking the consitution.
As this also breaks one of the human rights enforced by the EU – of privacy of communication, even if it somehow, unlikely, loses within a country, it can be brought to the human rights courts, where it will for sure lose.
Online petitions don’t work. Just enforce your rights as citizens, your consitutional rights. Contact whoever is enforcing your consitution and point out that your elected goverment is breaking it – which ever body enforces the constituion is separate from the goverment and there to control the goverment in times like this,
Genuine question : why is „neutral“ associated with „opposing“ instead of „undecided“ ?
Dude. Sweden is infested with criminal gangsters doing everything from hit jobs for the Iranian government to overtaking local institutions. Always killing the competition with guns and bombs. There is no way in hell the politicians will shoot down tools that can help the justice system catch these fuckers. Sadly, I think the voter majority agree.
Ngl scanning private messages makes me think they are slowly trying to federalize the EU, which i dunno i think this approach wont work out too well
But it might be just a dumb gut feeling
Would you let the mailman read your letter before you seal it?
That’s exactly what the EU’s “Chat Control” will do; forcing your phone to scan every message, photo, and file before it’s encrypted on WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, and more.
Politicians would be exempt. You wouldn’t.
This is being sold as “child protection,” but the EU’s own legal service says it violates fundamental rights. Once a backdoor into encryption exists, it’s not just governments who can use it. Hackers, criminals, and hostile states can too.
Today (with real encryption): Your message is locked on your phone. Not even WhatsApp, Signal, or Telegram (secret chat) can read it. Only the recipient can open it.
Under Chat Control: Your message is opened and scanned on your phone before encryption. If software thinks it finds “prohibited” content, even by mistake, it’s sent to authorities.
Austria opposes the plan, but 19 EU countries already support it. If Germany joins them, the law could pass in October.
Read more and act:
https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/#WhatYouCanDo
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MORE LINKS:
https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/
Internal EU lawyers’ warning:
https://netzpolitik.org/2025/internes-protokoll-eu-juristen-kritisieren-daenischen-vorschlag-zur-chatkontrolle/
What we know so far:
https://www.techradar.com/computing/cyber-security/the-eu-could-be-scanning-your-chats-by-october-2025-heres-everything-we-know
German summary:
https://www.it-boltwise.de/eu-plant-umfassende-ueberwachung-privater-nachrichten.html
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TL;DR: The EU wants to scan all private messages before encryption. Politicians would be exempt. If Germany backs the law in October, it could pass. This kills privacy for everyone else. Petition here: Stop Chat Control
Edit 1: added links
Edit 2: telegram isn’t end to end encrypted by default
*Except politicians?*
Excuse me, what the fuck. If there’s one job where transparency should be mandatory, it’s politician.
The current Swedish government has been a supporter of the EU’s „chat control“ initiative, also known as the Child Sexual Abuse (CSA) Regulation. Sources indicate that Sweden has consistently backed the proposal in EU Council meetings and listed it as a priority during its Council presidency.
However, the Swedish parliament itself has been divided on the issue. While the government has supported the regulation, there have been strong reactions from politicians across the political spectrum in Sweden, with some expressing concerns about privacy and fundamental rights.
I’m ashamed to see that so many are willing to accept privacy intrusions as long as someone screams „child abuse“. Don’t get me wrong, child abuse is horrible, but you can’t justify anything and everything by mentioning a single use case without mentioning all the ways it could be mis-used. Governmentally sponsored surveillance is a very slippery slope, and back doors into any and all communication is a serious breach of privacy.
Source: Gemini
There is no way that it would stand in Germany. It completely violates our constitution and EU law can’t touch that
Hello french person here : our government is made of people who lost the elections, so we don’t have any agency on what they vote for
This is so scary, please do everything you can to stop this.
To make it simple, you need to change your OS both on pc and smartphone, idk about smartphone but linux on pc should be the best option
Just saying, coincidentally in favour are countries which experience the biggest migration crisis.