boy i sure wish the tories were this proactive when they were in fucking power….
SlopProcessingUnit on
Mods can we stop people copying and pasting across multiple subs at once? Boring astroturfing scroats.
Acceptable_Rock_7175 on
The Conservatives always call for this stuff when out of power but do nothing when in power.
BeardedBaldMan on
That doesn’t sound like it’s an effective disincentive.
Did they mean that a percentage of the employer’s revenue determined by the percentage of illegal workers should be seized?
I think Deliveroo would find that an interesting risk to manage
PristineResearch5410 on
No-one is going to listen to the Tories. We’ve seen this all before. Talk tough on migration, do nothing, bring in a tax cut for the rich and increase the national debt. No-one is falling for it anymore.
Icy-Lavishness5139 on
I call for Conservatives to be deported and have their wages seized.
W35TH4M on
If they did this when they had power then maybe they’d still be in power
F133T1NGDR3AM on
Jesus christ.
The tories just need to sit down and shut up.
They’re like an arsonist that burns down your house, but wants to tell you how to clean up the wreckage.
VFequalsVeryFcked on
How are you going to catch illegal workers? They’re not documented and the country doesn’t have the resources to find, investigate, detain, or deport.
So unless they plan on raising taxes by 50% and risking riots, or enforcing taxation on their rich friends that don’t pay then (which won’t happen) then they aren’t going to be able to afford it.
AdOne9110 on
The conservatives could tell me drinking water is good for your health and I still wouldn’t listen to them.
Rot in hell you worthless traitors
bvimo on
Tory scum could have done this 13 months ago. Useless people.
Severe-Bicycle-9469 on
Surely the more effective measure is to go after the people employing them. If it becomes too much of a risk for employers to use them, they won’t. Rather than taking the wages of some deliveroo driver, tackle deliveroo
Both-Mud-4362 on
I get why they do it. Asylum applications can take 12+ months and the £80pm doesn’t go far. (I do think we need to work on speeding up the process and ensuring they perhaps can work whilst being processed provided they pay tax or something).
But at the same time they are currently in breach of UK asylum law at which point yes they should be deported. But where to when it’s not safe in their own country and therefore sending them back would be in breech of human rights.
As for those not seeking asylum and are illegal. Well they should be deported regardless of being caught working. They didn’t enter the country by legal means.
Mirzuirr on
Just wait a few months and Labour will do it anyways, Tory’s are done, they’ve been replaced by our current government, the alternative is now Farage or we seriously consider Lib Dems and Greens and split the entire vote for a change and hope governance is better for us all since no one person dominates the entire sphere
TheAdequateKhali on
Huh… how come they didn’t do it when they were in power?
Goosepond01 on
I’d comment but why bother, it’s going to be deleted anyway
ShondaVanda on
Or you could just give them temporary national insurance numbers and tax that income?
If they wanna work rather than sit in an asylum hotel, get the tax revenue.
Nice_Put4300 on
Is it just me or were the conservatives in power recently? No? Okay just me. Let’s carry on pretending the country is this way for random reasons.
Ok-Commission-7825 on
So they are also going to support wages for those jobs being high enough for people who actually have to live in the UK to live off right? … Right?
Visual-Economist5479 on
Deport anyone found working illegally.
Give exponential fines to anyone employing them including via sub contracting. (Deliveroo, Car Wash etc)
Enforce it, its not hard.
Alarmed_Inflation196 on
„Opposition says crap that attempts to make polling figures to up“. They would just make it worse
We haven’t forgotten recent history
Kobruh456 on
Why seize their wages though? Unnecessary cruelty when these people need to make a living. And the employers will just replace them with new workers to exploit, so it doesn’t solve any problem.
djpolofish on
Conservatives?… You mean populist goose marchers that want us to go back to a certain time in 1930s Germany.
History being repeated, blame those without money and power for all the problems created by the bourgeoisie.
peon47 on
And the people who hire illegal workers get sent to jail, too, right?
ucardiologist on
Tories?
But where were those tough guys in the last 15 years?
They have brought to the Uk 2 million Indians and Africans to suppress the wages for hard working people and make all of us poor at the hands of few billionaires and their predatory companies
Eg
Amazon they destroyed millions of Bussinesses that was employing millions and paid taxes
Where’s Amazon pays shit nothing
Uber another one reporting billions no taxes
Google eBay and many more
Bardsie on
So if I have a load of stuff I want hauling to the tip, and I pick a „man with a van“ who advertised that they’ll take trash and pay them to haul it away for me, I need to check that they have the correct garbage carrying licences, and I’ve they don’t, it’s me who faces a fine even though I’m not their employer but just took them at their word that they could do it.
But a delivery company isn’t liable for hiring people without the legal licensing to work because they are not their employer, they’re freelance delivery people?
There really is a two year justice system in this country, it’s just based on your bank balance.
hime-633 on
Chris Philp. Well, that tells me everything I need to know.
Penalise the COMPANIES who are hiring illegal workers ffs.
Next_Replacement_566 on
Well Tories made this. Cutting home office budget, cut policing, cut consulates, cut border security.
the_smug_mode on
Shame it’s just a bunch of lies like every other promise they made.
Flat_Manufacturer386 on
Uber Eats indirectly hire the illegal migrants, then hire the Lime Bikes to them to do the deliveries. It’s the companies profiting off this, that make this country so popular in the first place. You’ve got to deal with the causes, not the symptoms.
MrSierra125 on
Pointless if it’s not also followed up by workers rights.
zer0c00l81 on
So they did all this wholemeal power for 14 years?
What they didnt? Colour me shocked
sprocket314 on
Why do illegal immigrants come to the UK and not other countries instead?
The UK treats them better than other countries. If the UK puts them in camps like the Calais one instead of hotels, with no freedom of movement, if they didn’t get them spending money, if they gave them the absolute minimum required by the letter of the law and not an inch more and if they were all deported expeditiously once their asylum claim is denied, then fewer would come.
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boy i sure wish the tories were this proactive when they were in fucking power….
Mods can we stop people copying and pasting across multiple subs at once? Boring astroturfing scroats.
The Conservatives always call for this stuff when out of power but do nothing when in power.
That doesn’t sound like it’s an effective disincentive.
Did they mean that a percentage of the employer’s revenue determined by the percentage of illegal workers should be seized?
I think Deliveroo would find that an interesting risk to manage
No-one is going to listen to the Tories. We’ve seen this all before. Talk tough on migration, do nothing, bring in a tax cut for the rich and increase the national debt. No-one is falling for it anymore.
I call for Conservatives to be deported and have their wages seized.
If they did this when they had power then maybe they’d still be in power
Jesus christ.
The tories just need to sit down and shut up.
They’re like an arsonist that burns down your house, but wants to tell you how to clean up the wreckage.
How are you going to catch illegal workers? They’re not documented and the country doesn’t have the resources to find, investigate, detain, or deport.
So unless they plan on raising taxes by 50% and risking riots, or enforcing taxation on their rich friends that don’t pay then (which won’t happen) then they aren’t going to be able to afford it.
The conservatives could tell me drinking water is good for your health and I still wouldn’t listen to them.
Rot in hell you worthless traitors
Tory scum could have done this 13 months ago. Useless people.
Surely the more effective measure is to go after the people employing them. If it becomes too much of a risk for employers to use them, they won’t. Rather than taking the wages of some deliveroo driver, tackle deliveroo
I get why they do it. Asylum applications can take 12+ months and the £80pm doesn’t go far. (I do think we need to work on speeding up the process and ensuring they perhaps can work whilst being processed provided they pay tax or something).
But at the same time they are currently in breach of UK asylum law at which point yes they should be deported. But where to when it’s not safe in their own country and therefore sending them back would be in breech of human rights.
As for those not seeking asylum and are illegal. Well they should be deported regardless of being caught working. They didn’t enter the country by legal means.
Just wait a few months and Labour will do it anyways, Tory’s are done, they’ve been replaced by our current government, the alternative is now Farage or we seriously consider Lib Dems and Greens and split the entire vote for a change and hope governance is better for us all since no one person dominates the entire sphere
Huh… how come they didn’t do it when they were in power?
I’d comment but why bother, it’s going to be deleted anyway
Or you could just give them temporary national insurance numbers and tax that income?
If they wanna work rather than sit in an asylum hotel, get the tax revenue.
Is it just me or were the conservatives in power recently? No? Okay just me. Let’s carry on pretending the country is this way for random reasons.
So they are also going to support wages for those jobs being high enough for people who actually have to live in the UK to live off right? … Right?
Deport anyone found working illegally.
Give exponential fines to anyone employing them including via sub contracting. (Deliveroo, Car Wash etc)
Enforce it, its not hard.
„Opposition says crap that attempts to make polling figures to up“. They would just make it worse
We haven’t forgotten recent history
Why seize their wages though? Unnecessary cruelty when these people need to make a living. And the employers will just replace them with new workers to exploit, so it doesn’t solve any problem.
Conservatives?… You mean populist goose marchers that want us to go back to a certain time in 1930s Germany.
History being repeated, blame those without money and power for all the problems created by the bourgeoisie.
And the people who hire illegal workers get sent to jail, too, right?
Tories?
But where were those tough guys in the last 15 years?
They have brought to the Uk 2 million Indians and Africans to suppress the wages for hard working people and make all of us poor at the hands of few billionaires and their predatory companies
Eg
Amazon they destroyed millions of Bussinesses that was employing millions and paid taxes
Where’s Amazon pays shit nothing
Uber another one reporting billions no taxes
Google eBay and many more
So if I have a load of stuff I want hauling to the tip, and I pick a „man with a van“ who advertised that they’ll take trash and pay them to haul it away for me, I need to check that they have the correct garbage carrying licences, and I’ve they don’t, it’s me who faces a fine even though I’m not their employer but just took them at their word that they could do it.
But a delivery company isn’t liable for hiring people without the legal licensing to work because they are not their employer, they’re freelance delivery people?
There really is a two year justice system in this country, it’s just based on your bank balance.
Chris Philp. Well, that tells me everything I need to know.
Penalise the COMPANIES who are hiring illegal workers ffs.
Well Tories made this. Cutting home office budget, cut policing, cut consulates, cut border security.
Shame it’s just a bunch of lies like every other promise they made.
Uber Eats indirectly hire the illegal migrants, then hire the Lime Bikes to them to do the deliveries. It’s the companies profiting off this, that make this country so popular in the first place. You’ve got to deal with the causes, not the symptoms.
Pointless if it’s not also followed up by workers rights.
So they did all this wholemeal power for 14 years?
What they didnt? Colour me shocked
Why do illegal immigrants come to the UK and not other countries instead?
The UK treats them better than other countries. If the UK puts them in camps like the Calais one instead of hotels, with no freedom of movement, if they didn’t get them spending money, if they gave them the absolute minimum required by the letter of the law and not an inch more and if they were all deported expeditiously once their asylum claim is denied, then fewer would come.