
Trump:
Trump gab vor weniger als einer Stunde ein verrücktes Interview auf CNBC und bei der Umgebung 16:45 im Video Er sprach über die Schweiz, Tarife und eine Frau.
"ICH habe neulich etwas mit der Schweiz gemacht. Ich habe mit ihrem Premierminister gesprochen. Die Frau war nett, aber sie wollte nicht zuhören."
"Sie bezahlten im Wesentlichen keine Zölle. Und ich sagte: „Wir haben im Wesentlichen ein 41 -Milliarden -Dollar -Defizit mit Ihnen, Madam“ – ich kannte sie nicht – und Sie möchten 1% Zölle zahlen. “ Sie wollte 1%. Und ich sagte: »Sie werden nicht 1% Tarife zahlen.
Was ist überhaupt während dieser sogenannten Verhandlung passiert? Wie wurde die Schweizer Seite in so etwas gefangen? Sie stolpern nicht nur in ein Trump -Interview, das als Plattform verwendet wird, um Sie live im Fernsehen zu ziehen. Es ist peinlich. Er erinnerte sich nicht einmal, wer Kks war.
Das fühlt sich wirklich wie ein totaler Fehlzündung auf der Schweizer Seite an. Entweder haben sie sich nicht richtig vorbereitet oder sie dachten, sie könnten ihn leise niederreden
Könnte dies tatsächlich die Dinge in Bern aufrütteln? 39% und vielleicht schlechter wird einen großen Einfluss auf Arbeiter mit Entlassungen haben. Sie sollte zumindest die Rechenschaftspflicht übernehmen und wenn er am schlimmsten untergeht, biete sie ihren Rücktritt an. Sie wird immer noch 250.000 im Ruhestand verdienen, haha
Hier ist der Blick -Artikel, wenn Sie die Schweizer Pressereaktion lesen möchten:
https://www.blick.ch/fr/monde/je-ne-la-connais-pas-trump-evoque-les-negociations-en-direct-et-meprise-karin-keller-d21112003.html
Und das CNBC -Interview springen auf 16:45:
[https://www.cnbc.com/video/]()
Blick :Trump évoque les négociations en direct et méprise Karin Keller-Sutter
byu/Disastrous_Champion5 inSwitzerland
Von Disastrous_Champion5
25 Kommentare
Username checks out.
This is in no way the fault of the Swiss negotiators. Trump just uses Switzerland as a tool to make internal politics. And of course a senile old man doesn’t remember the Swiss Bundespräsidentin.
„What even happened during this so-called negotiation? How did the Swiss side get caught in something like this? You don’t just stumble into a Trump interview being used as a platform to drag you live on TV. It’s embarrassing. He didn’t even remember who KKS was.
This really feels like a total misfire on the Swiss side. Either they didn’t prepare properly or they thought they could talk him down quietly“
Your first mistake is believing anything Trump says.
You can’t ‚properly‘ prepare to talk with an insane person. I think we can hardly blame our governement for trying.
I refuse to blame Keller-Sutter for this. She was trying to explain the gold bullion thing to Trump, and whether due to mental incapability, or moral unwillingness, he was not hearing any of it.
Fuck them and cancel the F-35. The Rafale or Gripen are valid alternatives and european. Seriously, get over them.
Trump cannot open his mouth without telling a lie. 1% tarif? You actually believe KKS tried that after negotiations settled around 10% ?
It’s just Trump being Trump. Regardless of what KKS has done in the past, this is just us having to deal with the orange clown. It’s not a UBS situation.
After the disaster, this is the death knell for federal council KKS. Time for her to step down.
Kopp, Metzler, Leuthard, Amherd, KKS, easily half of all female federal council members turn out to be utterly incompetent. This ratio is far too high to be acceptable.
ETA:
Here’s the CNBC article with the interview [https://www.cnbc.com/video/2025/08/05/watch-cnbcs-full-interview-with-president-donald-trump.html](https://www.cnbc.com/video/2025/08/05/watch-cnbcs-full-interview-with-president-donald-trump.html)
Yeah I’m not happy with KKS, but this is hardly her fault. Trump just wants to mess with us.
I don’t think you need to believe Trump‘s account of conversation.
As far as we heard , CH was expecting 10% tariffs on goods that matter with some exclusions like Gold and Pharma. Pharma doesn’t have any tariffs anywhere because they will be part of section 232 investigations. And who applies tariffs on GOLD?
And how US calculates numbers is also very different. – As per US, trade deficit is 40 billion. But as per CH, it’s not because US is excluding services and including Gold.
– as per US, they want CH to pay them 40 Billion USD for the deficit. Who asks for money for buying goods from a supplier? Is this like a mafia system that you sell goods to mafia and also pay them to let you sell the goods?
Most likely Swiss government said that the trade deficit is 1% and Trump simply distorted the comments because he can
Let’s remember in this game, there is one party who will always say the truth and always live up to their end of commitments. Only one party will use right numbers and refrain from absurd comments.
That party is Switzerland.
He also today said quite clearly what is his objective
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/05/trump-says-pharma-tariffs-could-eventually-reach-up-to-250percent.html
So he for sure want to destroy Swiss export of pharma to US, which is main reason for this story he invented. Everything else is smoke and mirrors. There are no negotiations, India thought they had one and just learned there are more demands. Similar for Canada. Even if we accept 39% as normal he will push to 250%, as said loud and clear.
So I wouldn’t be so quick to blame our side and would start thinking Trump hasn’t been the most consistent negotiator, to put it nicely.
This situation is easily resolved with a raclette and CocaCola (the guy doesn’t drink alcohol)
It’s all about pharma and he doesn’t really care about anything else. Everything else is just political pressure to force pharma before his pharma tariffs are applied. So he doesn’t really care how he treated KKS. As matter of fact, making her look bad is ideal because she will in turn (he probably hopes) force Pharma to look at prices of drugs sold to US.
This is translated from that Blick article:
>In the same interview, Trump also announced high tariffs on pharmaceuticals, which he would announce „in about a week.“ „We’re going to start with low tariffs on pharmaceuticals, but in a year—a year and a half at most—they’ll go up to 150 percent, and then to 250 percent. Because we want the drugs to be made in our country,“ the US president said.
u/Disastrous_Champion5 about the video, do you mean take the livestream to 16h45 or is there a specific video title we should be looking at?
Don’t believe a single word the orange ape utters.
For all we know she could have offered 100% but he couldn’t do the math..
I don‘t think she did a great job in the negotiations, but Trump is lying again, no surprise there. In the discussions with his team they were close to a 10% tariff agreement. The trade deficit is fueled by Gold exports from Switzerland to the US that are the direct consequence of Trump’s idiotic tariffs and weakening of the dollar. The Donald is also ignoring the services deficit that Switzerland has with the US. The strong Swiss pharmaceutical companies are a problem as he wants to force Pharma companies to lower their high prices in the US that are partially caused by the broken US health system. Another US allegation is the Swiss ‘currency manipulation‘ meaning to artificially weaken the Swiss Franc vs. the US Dollar. Everybody can check how the CHF/US Dollar course has changed over the last time…..
One clear mistake she made was bragging to the media how she was successful in negotiating with Trump and that she somehow found access to him. That‘s enough for him to freak out and throw all negotiations over board. At the end he is a malignant narcissist who lies, threatens and cheats all day long. Let‘s see what the Swiss visit to the US will achieve. He clearly has no problems to increase tariffs to 100 or 200% if Switzerland retaliates and Switzerland can‘t do much, they are not China. So there is not much Switzerland can do other than sucking up to this felon, learn from this and lower dependency from the US over time.
I’m a bit torn on the issue of how much to blame KKS and the others.
Yes the federal council did not negotiate well with the orange pedo buffoon.
However, how can a rational, rather buenzli, Swiss politician face a deranged idiot that thinks that having a trade deficit means “losing” some kind of game? Two quotes come to mind (not verbatim because I don’t want to look them up):
“I have a huge trade deficit with my barber, he never buys shit from me!” and
“Never play chess with a pigeon, no matter how good you are, it will knock the pieces over, shit on the table an walk around like it won”
Except you cannot avoid playing chess with this particular pigeon…
We have a Prime Minister?
The guy is modeling tariffs to the trade balance, this already makes no sense at all, you can’t blame people when they fail negotiating with him, he’s basically a magic 8 ball.
Trump is an idiot. No amount of explaining from her side will convince him.
The only thing that works is licking his ass and having a brown tongue.
The BR needs to understand that this guy is not someone that can be reasoned with facts and logic, he wants people to kneel before him, tell him how he’s the greatest ever and lick his ass.
I mean, playing Trump’s idiotic games, should we print a lot of CHF and buy a lot of gold back from the US ?
That will devalue the CHF and „fix the deficit“ (lol). He’ll be happy and when he’s gone we sell back the gold
„What even happened during this so-called negotiation? How did the Swiss side get caught in something like this? You don’t just stumble into a Trump interview being used as a platform to drag you live on TV. It’s embarrassing. He didn’t even remember who KKS was.“
How on Earth is it in KKS‘ control what Trump claims on a TV interview several days later?
Trump himself can’t even control what Trump says half the time, how can anyone else prevent him from claiming whatever he wants?
This bad for Switzerland but Switzerland right now needs to expand their trade deals with other nations and start to ignore the crazy orange clown . You don’t fight or reason with a madman with conventional means . Switzerland can and needs to take a second look at other world markets and expand there until the USA comes back to their senses. Which is going to take decades to fix .
If a pharma is protected under a patent, there will be not much choices for the buyers.
But maybe I am missing something?
Trump: We couldn’t afford to have the deficits. Look, I did something with Switzerland the other day. I spoke to their prime minister. The woman was nice, but she didn’t want to listen. And they paid essentially no tariffs. And I said, we have a $41 billion deficit with you, madam. I didn’t know her. I said, we have a $41 billion deficit, and you want to pay 1% tariffs. You wanted 1%. I said, you’re not going to pay 1%. We lose… Because I view deficit as loss. You know, you have some people… By the way, I think, Jeremy…
Interviewer: Pharmaceuticals are a big issue with Switzerland. I think…
Trump: Well, I’ll go into pharmaceuticals… they make a fortune with pharmaceuticals, and they make pharmaceuticals in China and Ireland and everything else. And within the next week or so, we’re going to be announcing tariffs on… Specifically, this is a separate class than the 15 percent tariffs on sort of everything. These are excluded classes, I call them. I like to call them excluded, like steel, aluminum, et cetera.
Interviewer: Right, the 232.
Trump: Well, we’re going to be announcing on semiconductors and chips, which is a separate category, because we want them made in the United States. And, by the way, they’re being made in the United States. You know, we have the biggest in the world, as you know, from Taiwan, is coming over and spending $300 billion in Arizona, building the biggest plant in the world for chips. and semiconductors. But on pharmaceuticals, we’ll be putting an initially small tariff Right. on pharmaceuticals, but in one year, one and a half years maximum, it’s going to go to 150%, and then it’s going to go to 250%, because we want pharmaceuticals made in our country.