Der tschechische Präsident betrachtet die russische Besetzung von Teilen der Ukraine für das Überleben akzeptabler Preis. Er glaubt, dass es für die Ukraine unmöglich ist, in naher Zukunft alle Gebiete ohne wesentliche menschliche Verluste zu befreien.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/08/4/7524727/
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The temporary Russian occupation of part of Ukrainian territory may be the necessary price for Ukraine’s survival as a sovereign state.
**Source:** Czech President Petr Pavel in an interview with the [BBC](https://www.bbc.com/audio/play/w3ct7wzx), as reported by European Pravda
**Details:** Pavel said that it would be unfair for the West to pressure Ukraine to immediately liberate all occupied territories. In his words, the West does not want the destruction of the Ukrainian nation.
The Czech president said that Ukraine is not currently in a position to liberate the areas occupied by Russia in the foreseeable future, even with Western support, without significant human losses.
„Right now, Ukraine, with all Western Support, is not in a position to liberate occupied territories in a short time frame without a significant cost to lives. And of course, it will be very unfair from the West to push Ukraine to liberate all occupied territories right now, because we don’t want to exterminate the Ukrainian nation. We want them to survive as an independent sovereign country. And if there is a cost to renewing Ukraine as an independent autonomous state, if the cost is to accept that part of the territory will be temporarily occupied, without recognising it legally, then so be it. We will never recognise these occupied territories as legally Russian,“ Pavel said.
The Czech president believes that it is necessary to continue providing military aid to Ukraine, but, in his words, the war cannot be won on the battlefield. He believes that economic pressure from Europe and the United States is a more powerful tool to force Moscow to the negotiating table.
Pavel said that it was in the interests of both sides of the Atlantic to exert much greater economic pressure on Russia, noting that such pressure was very effective in terms of persuasion. He believed that, given the current state of the Russian economy, the Russians would not be able to withstand economic pressure for long. Therefore, he argued, if those measures were implemented, Russia would eventually have no choice but to sit down at the negotiating table, which it was currently refusing to do.
**Background:**
* In early July, Pavel stated that he [disagreed](https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/07/8/7520674/) with the assertion that Russia is currently winning the war against Ukraine.
* He also [pointed out](https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/07/8/7520683/) that both Russia and Ukraine have their own problems and limitations that prevent them from gaining an advantage in the war.
I guess realistically he is not totally wrong. Whether it is so clever to say it out loud is a different question. I don’t see how it’s particularly helpful at this point.
He is being realistic. People in the west are egging poor Ukrainians to fight on with adequate means Ukraine to win for the fear of escalation. There’s a certain level of Ukrainians being bamboozled into this. It is Ukraine taking on human casualties. There is no way to win against the Russians by grinding it out.
Taking 200-300 Taurus and Tomahawks against Crimea or Moscow only for 2-3 nights. These are the two places which will matter. Putin may go for a tactical nuclear response. That’s when the generals will turn on him.
That’s exactly what Zelensky’s position is too.
All territory within the pre-1990 borders is Ukrainian, by law, and recognised as such by the world. Ukraine will fight for it’s territory, but is prepared to accept a ceasefire which leaves Russian in de-facto but not de-jure control of some parts of Ukraine. Those parts can be returned through political and economic pressure later.
I’m just here to say how impressively white all his hair is.
And if there is a cost to renewing Ukraine as an independent autonomous state, if the cost is to accept that part of the territory will be temporarily occupied, without recognising it legally, then so be it. We will never recognise these occupied territories as legally russian,“ Pavel said.
Does he think the bodies won’t just keep piling up even if Ukraine lets Russia have the territories?
The problem with giving Putin the land he has taken is that it just encourages him to take more down the line once they’ve recovered the resources to make it possible.
The fact that The West and Europe did nothing when Putin took Crimea played a very large part in his belief that he could invade Ukraine with minimal opposition.
You cannot encourage dictators when they invade neighbors because they will keep doing it.
There has to be another off ramp given to Putin to end the war.
…showing all your cards before negotiations even start… I want to play poker against this guy.
Are there people believing otherwise? 🤔
The dude said the realest reality…
There is absolutely no strategic benefit for a leader in favour of Ukraine publicly saying this, regardless of its validity. Say it to Zelenskyy behind closed doors, yes, but public capitulation like this does nothing but strengthen Russia’s hand.
Status : Acceptance
And guess what else? If the rest of the world don’t truly support Ukraine, even more of their soldiers are going to die!
If we are going to enunciate logical consequences to our non-actions, we can begin there.
>The temporary Russian occupation of part of Ukrainian territory may be the necessary price for Ukraine’s survival as a sovereign state.
The subtitle of that article.
And the very reason why Russia will keep going now rather than later, if it is declared a ‚temporary‘ occupation by any political power.
No. He didn’t say that, implying permanent. He very clearly said that if it came to it, a temporary and non recognized occupation could be a temp solution…
Precision strike on Putin is the only thing that will solve this mess, the rest will crumble into infighting like it always do when Russia changes leadership.
Kharkiv?
Why to even talk about it if it’s not even an option. Russia said multiple times that they want Ukraine to give up MORE than they captured AND stop all the western supplies AND make Ukraine neutral AND limit Ukrainian army. So next time they would easily do what they planned to do in 2022 – walk in Kyiv and put their puppet government.
And you know, they won’t stop there, it would only increase their appetite. Jesus, people just don’t learn from their mistakes. History is doomed to repeat itself.
According to the Czech president’s logic, larger countries have the right to annex parts of smaller countries. …
But wait a minute, the Czech Republic is neither a superlative in the European Union in terms of size nor in terms of power.
With 470 million EU citizens and the world’s second-largest economy after the USA, Russia has no chance of winning the war against Ukraine and the EU.
Having read the article, the headline seems to misrepresent what he’s actually saying. He’s not saying that Russian occupation of Ukrainian territory is okay. He’s saying that he believes Ukraine cannot retake all it’s territory without very heavy losses and that the west may have to put up with Russia occupying those territories temporarily while a solution is found. He also implies that it’s up to Ukraine to decide what to do, not the west.
As unpalatable as it might be, the man served in the army for almost 40 years so he probably knows what he’s talking about when it comes to military matters.
They already lost parts of Ukraine… It wasn’t enough. It never will be. That’s not how psychopaths work.
The problem is
A. Russia wants the whole Ukraine.
B. Even if they say yes what stops Russia from attacking them in the future?
Before posting stupid comments, make sure to actually read the quote. Because the title of this article is pure clickbait.
The UN should award Ukraine parts of Czechoslovakia
Once Russians „temporarily“ occupies something, it tends to be very permanent. There is a reason Russia is the size it is today. The half-assed support the West gave in the past 3 years was while Ukraine is in such a predicament today.
I can see it happening through diplomatic reintegration.
Someone needs to give him a history book about Hitler and the annexation of the Sudatenland, so he can learn how well it worked when Europe thought they could prevent WWII by giving a power hungry leader the land be wanted.
Let Russians keep what they stole and they will come for the rest when they rebuild. Czech president failed history. You don’t negotiate with bully. You punch him so hard he bleeds.
The only way Ukraine can liberate all its land is to destroy Russias war logistics deep inside Russian territory and critical cash generating assets. That means key factories, all gas, petroleum and some hydro plants.
This will be the same argument when Russia goes for Kiev and then the Baltic and then Poland my question is will he be willing to give putin territory when he comes for Prague or will his message change
So the train is out of steam huh? How sad…