And everyone else says palestinian state will not be established unless hamas disarms
soylentgreenishere on
When are these guys going to figure out that it’s over, and they lost
SuperKrusher on
A Palestinian state may happen, but not the one they want. Jerusalem as their capital? Not happening.
John_Williams_1977 on
Isn’t ‘Hamas’ a couple of guys in Qatar these days?
Shouldn’t we be – like a year passed – the point where victory is declared and we’re moving on?
We ended WW2 with literally millions of German soldiers still right there…
Daemoni-73 on
And when / if that ever happens, in couple years time they will be attacking and bombing again with some excuse. Like they have done for the past… How many decades now? Since the ~~60’s~~? EDIT: Early 50’s.
Even if there’s a Palestinian state, how this works is that Hamas will absolutely NOT disarm they’ve had decades to disarm and initiate the process towards statehood, so why believe Hamas now?
ImpressiveQuality363 on
The title may as well read “Hamas says it won’t disarm”
LogicallyMad on
Even if the world finds a way to make a two state solution work, Hamas will not disarm.
Lillienpud on
Dude. Y’all pretty much had that. Then you attacked israel. Pro tip: protect your people, not your state.
inbetween-genders on
Putting ~~my~~ all my money these dudes are lying.
LionXDokkaebi on
Let’s see how this goes:
* Palestinian state: established
* Hamas: still armed
* Palestinian state does something Hamas doesn’t like: coup
And we’re right back to where we were
Pellaeon112 on
They functionally had that before oct. 7th….
Forsaken-Cell1848 on
Translation: We keep giving Israel every reason not to work towards a two state solution.
FrogsJumpFromPussy on
Hamas have no say in anything from now on. They’re terrorists damaging both their people and the people of Israel. No discussion can even start with Hamas still in existence, let anlone armed, and they know it.
Shadowblade83 on
At least they are being honest about their delusions now.
When they planned for october 7th, they actually planned for the take-over of all of Israel, expecting the slaughter of innocents at the music festival to be the opening strikes of an all-out invasion. Which they thought Allah would give them.
They once again negotiate without realism. Israel will never accept Hamas as a partner in peace. The ship has sailed for Jerusalem (east) as a capital for the Palestinian state.
What this actually means is that Hamas is a negotiating partner that is not based in reality…or just in bad faith.
It leaved Israel with little choice but to fight on. It leaves the palestinian civilians to a worse fate with even more suffering. And the hostages that are intentionally starved by now I’m afraid won’t come back alive.
Fire and blood is the end if nobody else takes leadership away from Hamas. Sadly, Israel has little choice but to stay the course, no matter the international uproar.
shushi77 on
Well, it’s pretty obvious that an independent Palestinian state won’t be established until you disarm and stop kidnapping and strangling Jewish children.
miklat106 on
… With Jerusalem as their capital. Keep dreaming lol
EdmontonBest on
Media organizations stop giving terrorists a voice. They massacred people dancing, they don’t deserve to have their opinions published. They have no right to say anything at this point except „we unconditionally surrender.“
YakInner4303 on
Gaza was an independent Palestinian state. Had they gone once and for all cold turkey on their compulsive need to launch rockets over their border at Israel and their endless plotting to somehow conquer Israel and turn it into their very own Jew free, Islam only state, they might even have been able to get Israel to stop blockading everything with military potential.
Sadly, they didn’t and now they’re losing all their cropland and turning into an Urban prison with no food production capacity and always a few months of global food crisis away from starvation.
Carpantiac on
Every last Hamas terrorist needs to be hunted down the way Hanniah and Sinwar were. These terrorists are not looking for peace or a two state solution. They want Israel destroyed and they don’t care what happens to civilians, Palestinians or Israeli. Hunt them down.
smp7401 on
Exterminate them
NagyLebowski on
And „with Jerusalem as its capital“…they are just saying no peace. Which is not a surprise.
Creepy-Driver-6916 on
Good job France and England and friends 👌 I guess we are rewarding the aggressor now
ncolpi on
And people are still acting as though Hamas is the victim here
owen__wilsons__nose on
I really feel like people need to read about the breakdown of Oslo and the subsequent Antifada to understand why things are the way they are today
Secuter on
There’s about a 100% chance that Hamas will not disarm regardless of what they’re offered.
Estrelleta44 on
nah… as long as THEY (Hamas) exist, it should not be allowed.
DisasterNo1740 on
An independent Palestinian state must happen, it can not happen with Hamas running it nor with an armed Hamas.
anarchy-NOW on
Guess who will be the single party and armed forces of an independent Palestinian state?
TotalDC on
Even then… does anyone believe that hamas will not become a single party in Palestine?
GreaterGoodIreland on
At which point they’ll take over the government and use the Palestinian Army (which will have to be allowed to exist or else the state isn’t independent).
Latrodectus702 on
Catch-22
TurbulentWinters on
Hamas needs to be eliminated completely. Can’t trust those scum to keep their word
Prudent-Matter317 on
I think this might actually be Hamas surrendering, in a way. They know full well this will never happen. They’ve given up. They’re just making one last attempt at dragging every man, woman, and child in Gaza down with them.
I hope everyone who supported Hamas is happy with themselves. Give yourself a pat on the back. You right side of history, you.
How dare you have ever sat there, safe in your room with your fancy phones, and supported these psychopaths.
How fucking dare you.
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And everyone else says palestinian state will not be established unless hamas disarms
When are these guys going to figure out that it’s over, and they lost
A Palestinian state may happen, but not the one they want. Jerusalem as their capital? Not happening.
Isn’t ‘Hamas’ a couple of guys in Qatar these days?
Shouldn’t we be – like a year passed – the point where victory is declared and we’re moving on?
We ended WW2 with literally millions of German soldiers still right there…
And when / if that ever happens, in couple years time they will be attacking and bombing again with some excuse. Like they have done for the past… How many decades now? Since the ~~60’s~~? EDIT: Early 50’s.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict)
Even if there’s a Palestinian state, how this works is that Hamas will absolutely NOT disarm they’ve had decades to disarm and initiate the process towards statehood, so why believe Hamas now?
The title may as well read “Hamas says it won’t disarm”
Even if the world finds a way to make a two state solution work, Hamas will not disarm.
Dude. Y’all pretty much had that. Then you attacked israel. Pro tip: protect your people, not your state.
Putting ~~my~~ all my money these dudes are lying.
Let’s see how this goes:
* Palestinian state: established
* Hamas: still armed
* Palestinian state does something Hamas doesn’t like: coup
And we’re right back to where we were
They functionally had that before oct. 7th….
Translation: We keep giving Israel every reason not to work towards a two state solution.
Hamas have no say in anything from now on. They’re terrorists damaging both their people and the people of Israel. No discussion can even start with Hamas still in existence, let anlone armed, and they know it.
At least they are being honest about their delusions now.
When they planned for october 7th, they actually planned for the take-over of all of Israel, expecting the slaughter of innocents at the music festival to be the opening strikes of an all-out invasion. Which they thought Allah would give them.
They once again negotiate without realism. Israel will never accept Hamas as a partner in peace. The ship has sailed for Jerusalem (east) as a capital for the Palestinian state.
What this actually means is that Hamas is a negotiating partner that is not based in reality…or just in bad faith.
It leaved Israel with little choice but to fight on. It leaves the palestinian civilians to a worse fate with even more suffering. And the hostages that are intentionally starved by now I’m afraid won’t come back alive.
Fire and blood is the end if nobody else takes leadership away from Hamas. Sadly, Israel has little choice but to stay the course, no matter the international uproar.
Well, it’s pretty obvious that an independent Palestinian state won’t be established until you disarm and stop kidnapping and strangling Jewish children.
… With Jerusalem as their capital. Keep dreaming lol
Media organizations stop giving terrorists a voice. They massacred people dancing, they don’t deserve to have their opinions published. They have no right to say anything at this point except „we unconditionally surrender.“
Gaza was an independent Palestinian state. Had they gone once and for all cold turkey on their compulsive need to launch rockets over their border at Israel and their endless plotting to somehow conquer Israel and turn it into their very own Jew free, Islam only state, they might even have been able to get Israel to stop blockading everything with military potential.
Sadly, they didn’t and now they’re losing all their cropland and turning into an Urban prison with no food production capacity and always a few months of global food crisis away from starvation.
Every last Hamas terrorist needs to be hunted down the way Hanniah and Sinwar were. These terrorists are not looking for peace or a two state solution. They want Israel destroyed and they don’t care what happens to civilians, Palestinians or Israeli. Hunt them down.
Exterminate them
And „with Jerusalem as its capital“…they are just saying no peace. Which is not a surprise.
Good job France and England and friends 👌 I guess we are rewarding the aggressor now
And people are still acting as though Hamas is the victim here
I really feel like people need to read about the breakdown of Oslo and the subsequent Antifada to understand why things are the way they are today
There’s about a 100% chance that Hamas will not disarm regardless of what they’re offered.
nah… as long as THEY (Hamas) exist, it should not be allowed.
An independent Palestinian state must happen, it can not happen with Hamas running it nor with an armed Hamas.
Guess who will be the single party and armed forces of an independent Palestinian state?
Even then… does anyone believe that hamas will not become a single party in Palestine?
At which point they’ll take over the government and use the Palestinian Army (which will have to be allowed to exist or else the state isn’t independent).
Catch-22
Hamas needs to be eliminated completely. Can’t trust those scum to keep their word
I think this might actually be Hamas surrendering, in a way. They know full well this will never happen. They’ve given up. They’re just making one last attempt at dragging every man, woman, and child in Gaza down with them.
I hope everyone who supported Hamas is happy with themselves. Give yourself a pat on the back. You right side of history, you.
How dare you have ever sat there, safe in your room with your fancy phones, and supported these psychopaths.
How fucking dare you.