Grüne sind für Allianz nicht links genug, sagt Corbyn
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/31/greens-not-left-wing-enough-for-corbyn-alliance/
Von Half_A_
Grüne sind für Allianz nicht links genug, sagt Corbyn
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/31/greens-not-left-wing-enough-for-corbyn-alliance/
Von Half_A_
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Jezza, mate, you’re going to have to compromise and work with others at some point
And this is the problem with the British left right here. Sectarianism, refusal to work with anyone who isn’t pure enough and then you wondered why it’s so fractured that Reform win the election on 30% of the electorate.
The problem with Corbyn wasn’t that people didn’t like left-wing policies – it’s just that he’s shown time and time again that he was never the one to implement them.
Greens aren’t left wing enough? Damn, guess we need Stalin levels of evil to appease Corbs, eh?
I know corbyn is a tankie, but dude is looking a bit more unhinged.
He didn’t join the Greens because he saw them as liberals. We all knew this. Now he’s confirmed it.
Lefties have once again been caught out. Corbyn is a classic Labour person, he’s machine politics through and through. He doesn’t do open debate and holding hands. It’s his way or the highway.
In 2017, Labour under Corbyn refused to do deals with the Greens, even after Greens stood down candidates in many places.
In 2019, the Lib Dems, Greens and Plaid came together for a remain alliance and urged Corbyn to join to stop the tories. What did Labour under Corbyn do? Turn them down.
It’s going to be exactly the same situation here.
It’s the Farage assistance group as Neil Kinnock said.
Left of the Greens is certainly a position that I’m sure is going to get them a big majority in the next election…..
This is why I can’t stand the guy. Pious wanker that would rather watch the country burn than compromise even slightly on his politics.
Twat. Just fuck off.
>Jeremy Corbyn has ruled out an alliance between his new political party and the Greens.
>The independent MP claimed the Green party was locked in an “eternal, riven debate” over what they stood for and suggested the party was not Left-wing enough to formally join forces with.
>However, the former leader of the Labour Party said he would be willing to work with the Greens on specific issues.
>[Mr Corbyn’s decision to launch Your Party](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/07/26/jeremy-corbyn-my-party-might-be-called-your-party/) – a temporary, placeholder name – [with fellow former Labour MP Zarah Sultana](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/23/jeremy-corbyn-hard-left-party-vote/) has ignited calls from some campaigners to unite the Left of British politics.
>But Mr Corbyn told the commentator Owen Jones in an interview posted on YouTube that “we’re not forming an alliance” with the Greens.
>He said: “Would we work with them? Yes, on issues. Generally we would agree on environmental issues, we would agree on social justice issues.
>“They are not a socialist organisation and they seem to me into an eternal, riven debate between trying to appeal to a sort of semi-conservative voting suburban electorate as opposed to a committed, environmentally conscious electorate.
>“So yes, we work with them in Parliament and yes, we would co-operate, but we’re not forming an alliance with them.
>“They don’t want to form an alliance with us. But we do recognise each other’s positions and I think we will come to some good positions and good agreements in the future.”
There is a genuine rift in the Greens right now between the very left wing, generally young urban voting bloc and the more environmentally focused, generally older rural voters. Basically it’s the „Eat the Rich“ vs the „Protect the Village Green“ wings of the party. The current leadership election is basically between those two branches and yeah tbf the „Protect the Village Green“ Greens probably aren’t compatible enough with *newparty-v2-final-v3.doc* for any formal Alliance at this stage.
Oh good I see this sub is back to posting every Telegraph headline of Corbyn’s quotes taken out of context and then having a bunch of Adjective_NounNumber accounts play dumb and pretend it’s worth talking about or is some huge indictment of his political position.
Here’s the actual quote:
> We’re not forming an alliance [with the Greens]. Would we work with them? Yes, on issues. Generally we would agree on environmental issues, we would agree on social justice issues.
> They are not a socialist organisation and they seem to me into an eternal, riven debate between trying to appeal to a sort of semi-conservative voting suburban electorate as opposed to a committed, environmentally conscious electorate.
> So yes, we work with them in Parliament and yes, we would co-operate, but we’re not forming an alliance with them. They don’t want to form an alliance with us. But we do recognise each other’s positions and I think we will come to some good positions and good agreements in the future.
Nothing he’s said here is anything but obvious common sense but we have to deal with people pretending it’s some crazy statement from a lunatic lefty.
hahahaha, that’s hilarious, Corbyn just isn’t up to being a national leader
I was listening to an interview with a former New Labour minister (I can’t remember which, but they came over as very sensible) who despairingly remembered their time as a local candidate or activist in a more left leaning local Labour Party. When they were planning the leaflets for an upcoming election there was a concern raised „I don’t think we can include [major local issue] on the leaflet, because then we won’t have enough space to discuss the situation in Guatemala…“
This story is the Old Left in a microcosm.
A man whose current parliamentary allies are essentially Johnsonite Tories with Palestinian flags, is in no position to lecture anyone about not being left-wing enough.
The direction of the country is going right, you’re gonna have to compromise and work with people.
Greens arent left wing enough but he has no problem working with the socially conservative sectarian mps.
What? Greens are as left as it gets. What is this man smoking?
If the new party can actually field candidates in every constituency and have a sensible fully costed manifesto, I can honestly see them doing well. The Tories have no chance, Labour have proved they have no clue what they are doing, the Greens and Lib Dems have no chance. The racists among us will vote Reform no matter what but a lot of people just want a viable alternative and maybe this can be it.
The Greens could have been an alternative, and last time out I’d have voted Green if they’d put a candidate up, in my constituency the only choices were Tory, Labour, Reform, Lib Dem and some racist independent. I voted Labour to kick the Tories out but I hate Starmer and what the party is doing right now.
I know it’s the Telegraph, but it seems like 95% of people commenting here haven’t even opened the article.
No one read the full quote from a Telegraph article about Corbyn in these comments and it shows
I watched the Owen Jones interview they’ve made this article from, he said largely something like:
„I respect the Green Party and thier Leader, and we would like to work with them, however thier focus is not entirely on [the issues your party represents] and they get tied in a lot of [nimby stuff]. I’m not even sure they would would want to work with us“
Anyone commenting on this thread just having read the headline as a „We will not work with them full stop“ should watch the interview
Please read the actual article and don’t get headline baited by the torygraph.
The Telegraph are just being divisive. Ignore them.
Suggest people watch the interview with Owen Jones, which was a broad ranging and interesting discussion and make up their own minds, rather than forming an opinion based on this biased headline. [https://youtu.be/49jppx61YhY?si=HS7EcfnJCPYuKsFj](https://youtu.be/49jppx61YhY?si=HS7EcfnJCPYuKsFj)
I mean, he’s right?
I stood for the Green Party and I am a member. But the Greens are having their own factional and ideological battle over leadership now about what they stand for. The front runners of the leadership election are is a left wing candidate and two co-leaders who are all about broad, mass appeal and want to avoid being left wing. So exactly what Corbyn has said.
The Green Party have never been socialist, and have always had the battles between the various factions (watermelons, kiwis, mangos) that at various times hold ascendency of the party.
During the elections when Corbyn was leader, the Green Party’s attacks on Labour were aimed at Corbyn and aimed at him being a populist who wasn’t realistic. A frankly Tory attack line that many of us members weren’t happy with and not in line with the Greens „better kind of politics“.
Closer to an actual election, and when the Green Party has decided it’s ideological direction, this would be a conversation worth having again.
If you actually listen to what he says instead just reading the Telegraph headline, it makes a lot more sense.
The thing is he’s right the greens are too conservative in some respects. See the full quote.
“They are not a socialist organisation and they seem to me into an eternal, riven debate between trying to appeal to a sort of semi-conservative voting suburban electorate as opposed to a committed, environmentally conscious electorate.”
“So yes, we work with them in Parliament and yes, we would co-operate, but we’re not forming an alliance with them.”
Sensationalist article as usual. ‚No we wont form an alliance with them, yes we will work with them‘. Saved you a click.
Forming alliances at this point is fucking stupid as you are basically on the hook for everyone of the other parties policies. Committing to working together in parliament is enough.
Either way if the opportunity came where greens and ‚your party‘ could have a majority together (not saying this will happen) I’m sure his answer would be different
So true. And it was a major misplay in the last election. The space was open for innovation and Reform grabbed it all.
Even the fact they say no to nuclear makes them a non starter.
How many actually read this article? Because what he said and what the title says are wildly different. For the record I am no Corbyn fan I just hate media headlines.
We are never getting out of the FPTP hellhole are we? UK will genuinely burn before any political progress is made.
The headline is typical Torygraph spin..
Corbyn didn’t totally rule out working with the Greens what he said was that they aren’t a socialist party and that they’re in an internal debate so he’s not interested in a formal alliance right now.. But he’s still open to issue-based cooperation..
So yeah, it’s based on something he said but the headline typically oversimplifies it to sound more dramatic than it actually is..