Das Drittel der jungen Menschen wollen fette Stöße als Nachfragespiralen
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/28/third-young-people-want-fat-jabs-demand-wegovy-mounjaro/
Von ThatchersDirtyTaint
Das Drittel der jungen Menschen wollen fette Stöße als Nachfragespiralen
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/28/third-young-people-want-fat-jabs-demand-wegovy-mounjaro/
Von ThatchersDirtyTaint
31 Kommentare
Good? – 70% of UK is Obese or Overweight. Anything that reduces that number will save billions in the NHS in the long run.
If only there was jab for exercise, binge drinking and poor diet. We could half the size of the NHS and workers could pocket the difference.
I see obese kids as victims, they need all the help they can get.
Young people have been bombarded with cheap food, they’ll have been brought up with poor diets, now there is a simple solution to being overweight of course they want it. Long term people need to adapt, eat less and more healthily, the jabs may help some get to a place they can do that.
How incredibly… Predictable it is that there’s so many people here who *still* just can’t be happy that there’s a way to help people lose weight. Rather sit around saying „well in my day your boot straps pulled you up by the throat and then screamed at you whilst your enemies laughed in your face“ than just let people who are obviously struggling in a way they aren’t have a little bit of support.
What a bunch of cunts. „Your obesity is costing the NHS!!!!“ at the same time as „This solution to your obesity is costing the NHS!!!!“
Fuck off man. Honestly I can’t with you all. Clearly have never struggled with anything yourselves.
People want results without the bother of all that effort and discipline? Wow what a completely new concept
Half of all MPs are on weight loss drugs but to get it on the NHS you have to be overweight and have a weight related health condition. They should lower that bar. I’m fortunate enough to be fit and active my whole life. I don’t think I will ever need the drug but clearly others do and not giving it to people until they develop a weight related health condition is cruel.
Everybody just wants the easy solution, nobody wants to put in any work at all to improve themselves. It’s the same with fat jabs, turkey teeth, crypto rich quick schemes.
It’s all just utter laziness nonsense
Whilst the jabs are likely a benefit. Are people not a little worried that the solution many are suggesting is for young people to potentially be dependent on medication (manufactured for a profit), to maintain a healthy weight for the rest of their life.
A third of young people need to stop eating shit and go to the gym.
Just do cardio it’s actually more fun. Ofc some people are limited disabled. But the endorphins from jogging/cycling etc are something else.
So many people I know that are on the jab are still eating really badly and none of them are making the healthy changes that are required.
I am on the jab and I thought long and hard about it, mostly due to the stigma of feeling like it is the easy option.
The thing is, I excercise 4 times (tennis, kickboxing, weights etc) a week and eat a very healthy diet, however I have PCOS and suffer terribly from insulin resistance. My body craves sugar and carbs (and yes, I do resist the urge).
Since being on the jab, those sugar cravings have completely been suppressed and now I am finally seeing my body look like a body who eats well and excercises. It’s been so vindicating for me.
The jab is great for helping people who are truly suffering but you MUST change your lifestyle if you had a very unhealthy and seditary one beforehand.
These are treatments of the symptoms not the core issue – bombarded with advertising and millions of fast food restaurants and now deliveries of said FF means there’s a scientific and highly calculated systematic addition process that is in place in US and now UK. Advertising is off the scale and it would be hard for any society to fight off this psychological warfare on health – billion dollar business. In a small town we have at least 8 McDonald’s, 4 KFC, 2 Burger King, GDK, Popeyes, Greggs everywhere and a drive through, and we wonder why everyone is overweight.
People see obesity as a moral issue, so it really shits them that there is a drug that can cure it.
I’ll give my perspective. it’s not about exercise and fitness. That’s actually entirely irrelevant. Started Mounjaro 3 weeks ago. I’m down 7kgs.
I was diagnosed with a Binge eating disorder several years ago. I have cPTSD and have lifelong struggles with food. I struggled with alcohol and have a highly fixative personality. If I discover a button that gives me serotonin, I’ll fucking smash that button until it falls off. Its been a lifelong struggle to never try drugs because I fear I would fucking LOVE drugs.
My son died 2 years ago and it triggered the worst bout of binge eating of my life. It was a daily struggle not to kill myself. My wife nearly died at the same time and looking after her and making sure she didn’t kill herself is genuinely the only thing that kept me going through those early months. I turned back to food as a coping strategy. Psycologists would call it a maladapted coping strategy but it’s preferable to alcohol so it’s what I lean on.
Now, when I say exercise doesn’t matter, it’s because you cannot conceive of how much food I am capable of eating. At 160kg (my peak weight since my son died) I completed a 100km ultra marathon. I can deadlift 200kg, overhead press 110kg, bench 120kg and run 10km (not sure the time actually won’t be anything to brag about).
What led me to MJ? I ruptured a disc. I was crazy fatigued for about 3 months after the ultra. I was gardening and pulled a 100kg sack of gravel along a path and in doing so ruptured my L1/S1 disc developing sciatica. I’d managed to get my weight back down from the peak at 160kg to ~150kg. I was initially bed bound by my back pain.
That was October 2024. Managed to get an MRI in Feb 2025, started physio June 2025, thank you NHS. I kept my weight to 145kg-152kg over this period.
Ever since my boy died I’ve been _desperately_ trying to get mental health support. My salary dropped by 2/3rds after his death (contractor fuck IR35). Despite my diagnosis of CPTSD, binge eating disorder and red flags for suicide after 6 months of pushing nearly daily I was offered peer led group support. Bear in mind my wife was immediately referred to the birth trauma team, given EMDR, EBT and many other supporting MH treatments. As a man your mental health is completely transparent to any professional service.
So, back is injured, can’t train. Can’t get mental health support, cannot get referred to an eating disorder clinic because and I quote „they’re really for anorexia and bulimia“ struggling to deal with my Binge Eating disorder.
So what the fuck would you do? Mounjaro has come as a bit of a god send tbh. I had to pay for it myself so had to bin off my gym membership (can’t use it anyway thanks to my jelly baby quality discs) and it’s £120+/month for 4 injections. I’m on 2.5mg and I’ve lost >7kg in 3 weeks. As of 20 minutes ago I’m 139.8kg.
I’ll be back to my goal weight of 120kg within the next 12 months. This is the weight that I ran 30km races and competed in powerlifting and strongman. For me it’s a formidable weight.
If you are someone who thinks it’s wrong to use these drugs then call your MP and tell them to fund Mental Health services in the NHS. This isn’t an exercise crisis, or people ‚being lazy‘ this is a mental health crisis.
These jabs are solving the symptoms of that crisis but those symptoms feed into it. Once the weight is off I believe my discs will recover because I’m certain they’re a weight related injury (100km at 160kg will fucking do that).
To all of those people saying „as soon as they stop they’ll put the weight back on“ no studies have shown that you put the same amount back on and also if I have to be on this long term then that’s what I’ll do. I’ll die either way might as well die capable and strong.
Demanding it and actually losing weight are two different things.
Example, they are obease for a reason, poor life choices, excessive eating and lazy non-active
Take the jab, the second they stop using the jab they’ll e obeae again.
Those that have changed their habits and are now slowly losing weight, will keep that fat off after the jab.
Just because you want it, doesnt entitle you to it, actually do something first.
Its a good thing people want to be slimmer, but the double edge sword of this is people dont do it via exercise. Your physical weight is only 1 part of your overall health.
Getting out to the gym, a run or walk not only helps maintain weight but has a whole host of other positive physical and mental benefits. Sure some disabled people cant, but the vast majority can
They help with fat loss and blood sugar control and some have cardio protective benefits. But around 30% of the weight loss can come from muscle loss and bone loss. It’s vital to preserve these as much as possible especially as we age. They’re vital to longevity and for not becoming frail in our elderly years. So if you must couple it with a high quality high protein intake and do some serious resistance training to preserve the muscle and some bone !
I’m on Mounjaro since March. I’ve now got a BMI of 40 and started with a BMI of 54. It’s expensive as it’s not prescribed on the NHS in Wales apart from at Tier 3 weight management where they told me I’d likely be offered it within 3 months if I had obesity alongside 3 other health conditions and these were the most serious kind – sleep apnoea, heart disease etc. There were tiers with the one I’d fall into being around a 12-18 month wait.
The jabs are incredibly effective for me but they’re not effective for everyone. The hormone just doesn’t work for some people in the same way that weight loss surgery regarding the hormone doesn’t work for 10% of patients. Yes, there’s appetite suppression but if you over eat calories in smaller portions (cakes, pastries, chocolate etc) you still won’t lose weight.
I’m all for the injections being available on the NHS but I’m very much pro teaching people about food and cooking. I’ve had to learn how to weigh my food because I realised I can’t trust myself to eyeball anything. It’s boring, monotonous, extremely time consuming and annoying at times but I do it because I need to learn how to. One day I won’t need to weigh and calorie count as severely because I’ll just be able to eyeball it but today, that’s not what’s happening.
We eat massive portions of crap food and many of us don’t have a lot of variety in our diets. The jabs aren’t intended to be used for life in the majority of cases and once you come off them that appetite comes back like an elastic band. If we don’t get to the root of the problem, it doesn’t matter how many people lose huge amounts of weight if they’re going to put it back on. It’s a huge expense for the NHS just to have the same problem to deal with in 2 years. The NHS feel it enough with weight loss surgeries. Some people put the weight back on after 2 years when the surgery ‘settles in’ but with the injections it’s a lot more people doing the same thing.
There’s no easy answer. You can’t prescribe injections like sweets and say ‘this will fix the problem’. It won’t. It needs to be multi disciplinary and also in the community.
I’m one of the fat people on fat jabs! Lost 2 stone 8 since April and I have never found losing weight so manageable. I cannot tell you how even when I did try my absolutely hardest, how impossible it was for me to stop thinking about snacks. If there was a chocolate bar in the cupboard I would think about it **constantly** until I gave in and eventually ate it.
And even going “cold turkey” didn’t help, because I’d go days without it and then crash out and binge.
For the first time in my life, I’m eating regularly, small and healthy meals. I’m having maybe a strip of a galaxy chocolate bar for my dessert at the end of the day. The rest is just normal food. Sure I have a take away now and then, but it’s once a month rather than 2-3 times a week.
Now I don’t know what’s going to happen when I get to my goal weight, but I’ll face it as it comes. If it turns out I just can’t manage my weight and eating without it, so be it. I’ll pay the £130 a month to stay this way and it be manageable. I have never felt so good in my life.
I’m a bit mixed on everyone taking the easy route. Yes some people need it for complex issues, but I think weight loss the old fashioned way instills discipline, planning, a goal setting mindset and persistence that you just don’t get from hopping in the jab.
If you are not going to do meal plans, workout regularly or track calories before the jab. Taking the shortcut won’t suddenly make you more likely to do that.
I wonder how many of the HAES crowd and people that tell themselves they are happy being obese will take up the drug now that there’s an „easy way“ to get in shape.
I believe there are a significant number of people that tell themselves they don’t want/need to lose weight but that if you offered them a magic red button that’d immediately transform them to their ideal weight, they’d push it.
The moral of the story is that people know what they’re doing is wrong, but don’t actually want to put the effort into fixing it and it’s a shame. Many of these people would be unsympathetic to substance abusers, but we should feel bad for them because they won’t take responsibility for their portion sizes.
We need yearly health checks for everyone, if someone is found to be living an unhealthy lifestyle by choice they should pay a national insurance surcharge. The more healthy someone is the less they pay, the less healthy someone is the more they pay.
Fat people exist: „this is an outrage“
New drug made that helps fat people: „this is an outrage“
They should be made to follow a diet as well or they might use it as an excuse to eat like a pig and jab it away.
Anything but have a bit of self control and eat less I suppose
The need for instant gratification in all facets of living is insatiable.
Sometimes people are overweight/obese because of medical conditions and hormonal imbalances.
I have always eaten one to two meals a day (I’ve never been able to eat more), and exercise quite a lot. Yet I still put on a massive amount of weight for no explanation. A blood test later we discover I have Hashimoto’s (hypothyroidism) and unless I get fat-burning meds I cannot lose that extra weight.
God forbid they just eat less and exercise. It’s not like they’re young or anything…
Quelle surprise. The battle for people to take responsibility for their own well being has taken another blow.
As I understand it, those who are prescribed weight loss injections on the NHS are monitored through a weight loss service and given advice on healthy eating and exercise and how to maintain a healthy lifestyle. Many of the private pharmacies who prescribe them online are relying on the patient to tell the truth about their initial weight before starting on them, and just prescribe without the support moving forwards. I’m sure that’s not always the case but it seems to be in the main.
What people don’t understand is that however much you fight it, you can’t do better than yo-yo-ing if your biology is screwed up enough. You’ll lose control at *some* point, like stopping yourself scratching an eternal itch.
It’d make sense to me to use the weight-loss jabs just at those moment where you’d otherwise be on the rising flank of the yo-yo. Like when life events happen and mess up your discipline. Then go back to self-control when that’s sufficient.
Sensible diet, regular exercise and food education is the only way to treat obesity. We eat breakfasts out at the weekend and seeing obese people have a full English fry up is all too common. I used to see it at work too in the cafe at breakfast time whilst getting a coffee.