And these BACKBENCHERS on the fringes of the party wonder why they were left out of Cabinet.
They have also just guaranteed that Carney will never promote them to Cabinet in the future, and will be ignored by the people actually in charge of the government going forward.
Justin may have been sympathetic to these people, but it’s unlikely that Carney is as well. These people cannot read the room.
Justin_123456 on
Carney apparently agreed to this in June, in the room with Macron, as part of planned three way announcement between France/UK/Can.
Starmer then balked and reneged quite quickly, and Carney has been mum about it. So I assume they got threatening phone calls from Washington and immediately caved.
It was supposed to be elbows up, not knees down, Mark.
soaringupnow on
What difference would it make for Canada to recognize Palestine as a state?
Is it purely performative or are there any practical benefits for Palestinians?
RecoverSquare5390 on
Do it. Israel is insulting normally friendly liberal democracies with their bald-faced lies and horrific ethnic cleansing.
DJ_JOWZY on
As John Kerry said, Israel can be a Jewish state or a democratic state, but not both.
Canada should absolutely be calling for a two-state solution. But if a Palestinian state is impossible, then Canada should be calling for a one-state multi-ethnic country with equal rights for all. Call it Israel, call it Palestine, call it Israelestine, I don’t care. But the status quo can’t work any longer, and Canada needs to take a firm position now for a two-state or one-state solution.
KvotheG on
The Israeli government can only continue to blame hamas for the humanitarian aid crisis in Gaza, and blame criticism to their actions as nothing more than antisemitism, before the world stops taking them seriously. For a lot of people, hungry and dying children are the final straw. Really hard to continue the same excuses then.
Canada recognizing a Palestinian state probably won’t end the war, but western countries like France and Canada doing so will be the biggest shakeup in a generation on the issue. It might just help pave the way towards an actual two-state solution, and lasting peace where both Israelis and Palestinians can coexist.
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And these BACKBENCHERS on the fringes of the party wonder why they were left out of Cabinet.
They have also just guaranteed that Carney will never promote them to Cabinet in the future, and will be ignored by the people actually in charge of the government going forward.
Justin may have been sympathetic to these people, but it’s unlikely that Carney is as well. These people cannot read the room.
Carney apparently agreed to this in June, in the room with Macron, as part of planned three way announcement between France/UK/Can.
Starmer then balked and reneged quite quickly, and Carney has been mum about it. So I assume they got threatening phone calls from Washington and immediately caved.
It was supposed to be elbows up, not knees down, Mark.
What difference would it make for Canada to recognize Palestine as a state?
Is it purely performative or are there any practical benefits for Palestinians?
Do it. Israel is insulting normally friendly liberal democracies with their bald-faced lies and horrific ethnic cleansing.
As John Kerry said, Israel can be a Jewish state or a democratic state, but not both.
Canada should absolutely be calling for a two-state solution. But if a Palestinian state is impossible, then Canada should be calling for a one-state multi-ethnic country with equal rights for all. Call it Israel, call it Palestine, call it Israelestine, I don’t care. But the status quo can’t work any longer, and Canada needs to take a firm position now for a two-state or one-state solution.
The Israeli government can only continue to blame hamas for the humanitarian aid crisis in Gaza, and blame criticism to their actions as nothing more than antisemitism, before the world stops taking them seriously. For a lot of people, hungry and dying children are the final straw. Really hard to continue the same excuses then.
Canada recognizing a Palestinian state probably won’t end the war, but western countries like France and Canada doing so will be the biggest shakeup in a generation on the issue. It might just help pave the way towards an actual two-state solution, and lasting peace where both Israelis and Palestinians can coexist.