*Experts weigh in on the shocking exchange between a self-proclaimed fascist and the political commentator and journalist Mehdi Hasan.*
— sub-headline
Ok-Garcia-5605 on
Jubilee really thought they were gonna sandbag Mehdi with putting him in front of 20 4chan/qanon fascists, but they picked the wrong guy. He has seen people like throughout his career and he was more than ready the moment he realized what he was in for
F1Coder on
Like Trump is doing to America, so did Hitler completely destroy Germany.
PerniciousPlay on
He got fired and asked for money and got around 15k in a few hours.
theguy1336 on
And the rest of them gave a roaring applause when he said he’s a fascist. This is the largest political movement in your country right now. Nazis, pedophiles, oligarchs, and scammers. This is the US now
Intelligent-Key8997 on
I actually think the debate is a very good idea because it’s putting a spotlight on the extremism that’s alive and well in right-wing politics right now.
To those saying we shouldn’t “give these voices a platform,” I respectfully disagree. These aren’t just fringe outliers shouting into the void, they represent a very real and growing segment of political power and influence in this country. Pretending they don’t exist or trying to silence them doesn’t make the problem go away.
What does help is dragging these views into the daylight where they can be openly challenged, dissected, and recognized for what they are. That’s how people, especially those who might not be paying close attention, realize just how far things have drifted.
It’s not about promoting them. It’s about exposing them.
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.
If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
(The Art of War, Chapter 3: Attack by Stratagem
The first step to winning a fight is realizing you’re in one.
daizzy999 on
my least favorite part of all of this is where the goofy fascist dude lost his job but got $30K in donations
Original-Run-3801 on
This grifter is angry because he was fired for his political statements that he says are typical right-wing viewpoints. He is the modern GOP, not some outlier – they *are* fascists.
jupfold on
The most important part of that exchange is when he said “I’m not going to be a part of the group that he kills”
That’s what this is all about. Aside from the fact he is openly admitting this government is going to be killing people, everyone thinks they’re part of the in group until they’re not.
Just look at Trump. There is not a single person in his inner circle who hasn’t been chewed out and spat out under the bus when it was convenient to do so.
These fascists are all playing with Main Character mode turned on and think they are special.
But they’re not. Everyone who isn’t the “benevolent leader” is expendable.
Its-A-Spider on
>When Connor shared his vision of government under a “benevolent” autocrat, he stated, “I’m not going to be a part of the group that he kills.”
What the actual fuck is wrong with these people to not only say this, but to be proud of having that opinion.
rforest3 on
They were mean to the Catholic Church….and?
steve_ample on
The environment today makes them feel comfy and confident that they can take off the white, pointy hat with two eyeholes in it.
noeldr on
Incredible that admitting being a fascist is a normal thing.
BatemanHarrison on
The next Jubilee videos should be 1 Hungry Bear vs. 20 far right conservatives
Novel_Page_5510 on
And if you go to this human excrements “go fund Me” campaign, he’s raised a lot of money for himself. His supporters are throwing Hitler quotes out as they donate to him. This is a problem.
OriginalCultureOfOne on
Ah, to be back in the days when most of the vocal extremists only had a soapbox in a public park, and spent their days shouting gibberish at pigeons and passing joggers…
HallucinogenicFish on
> When Connor shared his vision of government under a “benevolent” autocrat, he stated, “I’m not going to be a part of the group that he kills.”
This is the crux. “I don’t care if he kills other people, as long as I’m part of the in-group.”
PastorNTraining on
We must cease referring to it as “conservatism” when dealing with fascists.
Conservatism involves preserving a value, a period in time, or a culture.
This is not conserving anything; it is transforming America into an autocracy.
This is not conservatism; it is authoritarianism.
throwaway_scallywag7 on
Every second watching this dude made my skin crawl. This guy and anyone like him are dangerous in every sense.
bloodandsunshine on
The follow up with Tim Miller was good – asking why he did it, what he thought may come.
There is value in such a large platform demonstrating how embarrassing it is to be that angry and ignorant – as much as the debate crowd will tell you shame doesnt make change, it hits hard now and then.
Knotknighm on
Think my favorite part is the quick cutaway to that girl who is looking around and seems to have finally realized that maybe these people are fucking lunatics.
kittyyykatttt on
Why does he say „quite frankly“ so damn much?
deckard1980 on
I’ve been enjoying the clips of this guy eviscerating right wingers recently. And all so politely
chodelycannons on
This is what happens when “fuck you, got mine” becomes normalized in public discourse and civics
chaoslord on
Jesus Christ, one fucking poem, probably the most important one ever written, certainly more important than their fucking space daddy fantasy book, would teach them all they need to know about facism, but they’re too dumb/ignorant/hateful to absorb it. I mean Niermoller’s „First They Came“.
nico-72 on
Hear me out: a new maga cruise line that just…stays at sea. We can stock them up with food and supplies but no internet. They’ll be with their people and can live the rest of their lives in bliss, the way they want, away from all of us.
dafones on
I just hope that we get to a point where mainstream Republican voters agree that this did not age well.
TrafficLegitimate940 on
He lost his job and started a donation page.
Syphillisdiller1 on
I just wish we could get this kid to speak frankly on the topic. Maybe even quite frankly.
teddybearkilla on
The scariest part to me was that blond woman that is clearly in the wrong party starts off saying she’s the children of immigrants then half the room instantly votes to kick her.
ChrisEFWTX on
They are whiny bitches?
IllustriousKoala7924 on
That they are evil and creepy and desperately need therapy? That isn’t new.
Friendly-Zone-2470 on
And then conservative men cry when women dont want them. @women, stop fucking these guys. They fancy themselves fascists. And they arent even cute.
Neat_On_The_Rocks on
This exchange is the one that went viral. But the one that really was something to watch was the girl with immigrant parents.
She basically kept saying “my parents were immigrants but they’re not anymore.” The cognitive dissonance was astounding
JerrysKIDney on
I watched this last night and I’ve met people with fascist ideas but I’ve never met someone that openly admits to being one. I guess we didnt meet but you know what I mean
stfuhonkey24 on
Wrong. Conservatives have always been like this. Just allowed to be louder about it now because mainstream media platformed white supremacist talking points for decades and no one listened to minorities when we tried to say how entrenched and insidious these values are in white communities. Tired of the lack of accountability for this
alk_adio_ost on
These are not the conservatives we grew up with. This is what fascism looks like.
SillyAlternative420 on
This fucking manchild needs to be excommunicated from the Catholic Church.
Touting those opinions do not line up with modern day Catholic Ideology and the church should take a firm stance that this is the case.
Inside-Palpitation25 on
Maga wants a fascist country. They do not care if trump cheats, lies, steals, or murders, as long as they get what they want! They will never turn on him.
truthovertribe on
So, first off the maxim „power corrupts“ has only been reaffirmed time and time again in human history.
Second, any societal model which instills checks and balances to power will be less corrupt than societies which don’t, given the first maxim is true.
Third…any historian knows the first maxim is true. Given enough power „The Church“ became insufferably corrupt. The inquisitions being exhibit A.
Fourth, the American people seem to be choosing „religious“ autocratic rule, negating all checks and balances, essentially tossing our Constitution to the four winds (horses of the apocalypse)?
For what? A man who made vows of fidelity to 3 wives and cheated on them all *before* he became President?
This is the „benevolent“ autocrat who is going to return us to „favor with God as a Christian nation“?
Yes, this martyred „paragon of virtue“ can „return us to greatness“ only if he’s awarded complete unquestioned power with NO checks and balances?
You, Christian faithful, would seemingly give up your democracy, hard fought for and all the checks and balances to power it included to someone who claimed Epstein as one of his good friends for 15 (possibly plus) years?
Why? Why? Why?
You should ask yourselves why.
Power corrupts and Mr. Trump proved himself corrupt *before* he was given autocratic power by y’all.
Do you really think this is a multiplicative situation? No… it’s not! It’s additive. Take one corrupt man and give him maximum power and you only ADD to his corruption!
And ..by extension President Trump supporters, your own.
BabyYodaX on
* They are some of the ugliest motherfuckers I have ever seen in my life.
* They are some of the dumbest motherfuckers ever. Send all of them back to school.
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*Experts weigh in on the shocking exchange between a self-proclaimed fascist and the political commentator and journalist Mehdi Hasan.*
— sub-headline
Jubilee really thought they were gonna sandbag Mehdi with putting him in front of 20 4chan/qanon fascists, but they picked the wrong guy. He has seen people like throughout his career and he was more than ready the moment he realized what he was in for
Like Trump is doing to America, so did Hitler completely destroy Germany.
He got fired and asked for money and got around 15k in a few hours.
And the rest of them gave a roaring applause when he said he’s a fascist. This is the largest political movement in your country right now. Nazis, pedophiles, oligarchs, and scammers. This is the US now
I actually think the debate is a very good idea because it’s putting a spotlight on the extremism that’s alive and well in right-wing politics right now.
To those saying we shouldn’t “give these voices a platform,” I respectfully disagree. These aren’t just fringe outliers shouting into the void, they represent a very real and growing segment of political power and influence in this country. Pretending they don’t exist or trying to silence them doesn’t make the problem go away.
What does help is dragging these views into the daylight where they can be openly challenged, dissected, and recognized for what they are. That’s how people, especially those who might not be paying close attention, realize just how far things have drifted.
It’s not about promoting them. It’s about exposing them.
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles.
If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
(The Art of War, Chapter 3: Attack by Stratagem
The first step to winning a fight is realizing you’re in one.
my least favorite part of all of this is where the goofy fascist dude lost his job but got $30K in donations
This grifter is angry because he was fired for his political statements that he says are typical right-wing viewpoints. He is the modern GOP, not some outlier – they *are* fascists.
The most important part of that exchange is when he said “I’m not going to be a part of the group that he kills”
That’s what this is all about. Aside from the fact he is openly admitting this government is going to be killing people, everyone thinks they’re part of the in group until they’re not.
Just look at Trump. There is not a single person in his inner circle who hasn’t been chewed out and spat out under the bus when it was convenient to do so.
These fascists are all playing with Main Character mode turned on and think they are special.
But they’re not. Everyone who isn’t the “benevolent leader” is expendable.
>When Connor shared his vision of government under a “benevolent” autocrat, he stated, “I’m not going to be a part of the group that he kills.”
What the actual fuck is wrong with these people to not only say this, but to be proud of having that opinion.
They were mean to the Catholic Church….and?
The environment today makes them feel comfy and confident that they can take off the white, pointy hat with two eyeholes in it.
Incredible that admitting being a fascist is a normal thing.
The next Jubilee videos should be 1 Hungry Bear vs. 20 far right conservatives
And if you go to this human excrements “go fund Me” campaign, he’s raised a lot of money for himself. His supporters are throwing Hitler quotes out as they donate to him. This is a problem.
Ah, to be back in the days when most of the vocal extremists only had a soapbox in a public park, and spent their days shouting gibberish at pigeons and passing joggers…
> When Connor shared his vision of government under a “benevolent” autocrat, he stated, “I’m not going to be a part of the group that he kills.”
This is the crux. “I don’t care if he kills other people, as long as I’m part of the in-group.”
We must cease referring to it as “conservatism” when dealing with fascists.
Conservatism involves preserving a value, a period in time, or a culture.
This is not conserving anything; it is transforming America into an autocracy.
This is not conservatism; it is authoritarianism.
Every second watching this dude made my skin crawl. This guy and anyone like him are dangerous in every sense.
The follow up with Tim Miller was good – asking why he did it, what he thought may come.
There is value in such a large platform demonstrating how embarrassing it is to be that angry and ignorant – as much as the debate crowd will tell you shame doesnt make change, it hits hard now and then.
Think my favorite part is the quick cutaway to that girl who is looking around and seems to have finally realized that maybe these people are fucking lunatics.
Why does he say „quite frankly“ so damn much?
I’ve been enjoying the clips of this guy eviscerating right wingers recently. And all so politely
This is what happens when “fuck you, got mine” becomes normalized in public discourse and civics
Jesus Christ, one fucking poem, probably the most important one ever written, certainly more important than their fucking space daddy fantasy book, would teach them all they need to know about facism, but they’re too dumb/ignorant/hateful to absorb it. I mean Niermoller’s „First They Came“.
Hear me out: a new maga cruise line that just…stays at sea. We can stock them up with food and supplies but no internet. They’ll be with their people and can live the rest of their lives in bliss, the way they want, away from all of us.
I just hope that we get to a point where mainstream Republican voters agree that this did not age well.
He lost his job and started a donation page.
I just wish we could get this kid to speak frankly on the topic. Maybe even quite frankly.
The scariest part to me was that blond woman that is clearly in the wrong party starts off saying she’s the children of immigrants then half the room instantly votes to kick her.
They are whiny bitches?
That they are evil and creepy and desperately need therapy? That isn’t new.
And then conservative men cry when women dont want them. @women, stop fucking these guys. They fancy themselves fascists. And they arent even cute.
This exchange is the one that went viral. But the one that really was something to watch was the girl with immigrant parents.
She basically kept saying “my parents were immigrants but they’re not anymore.” The cognitive dissonance was astounding
I watched this last night and I’ve met people with fascist ideas but I’ve never met someone that openly admits to being one. I guess we didnt meet but you know what I mean
Wrong. Conservatives have always been like this. Just allowed to be louder about it now because mainstream media platformed white supremacist talking points for decades and no one listened to minorities when we tried to say how entrenched and insidious these values are in white communities. Tired of the lack of accountability for this
These are not the conservatives we grew up with. This is what fascism looks like.
This fucking manchild needs to be excommunicated from the Catholic Church.
Touting those opinions do not line up with modern day Catholic Ideology and the church should take a firm stance that this is the case.
Maga wants a fascist country. They do not care if trump cheats, lies, steals, or murders, as long as they get what they want! They will never turn on him.
So, first off the maxim „power corrupts“ has only been reaffirmed time and time again in human history.
Second, any societal model which instills checks and balances to power will be less corrupt than societies which don’t, given the first maxim is true.
Third…any historian knows the first maxim is true. Given enough power „The Church“ became insufferably corrupt. The inquisitions being exhibit A.
Fourth, the American people seem to be choosing „religious“ autocratic rule, negating all checks and balances, essentially tossing our Constitution to the four winds (horses of the apocalypse)?
For what? A man who made vows of fidelity to 3 wives and cheated on them all *before* he became President?
This is the „benevolent“ autocrat who is going to return us to „favor with God as a Christian nation“?
Yes, this martyred „paragon of virtue“ can „return us to greatness“ only if he’s awarded complete unquestioned power with NO checks and balances?
You, Christian faithful, would seemingly give up your democracy, hard fought for and all the checks and balances to power it included to someone who claimed Epstein as one of his good friends for 15 (possibly plus) years?
Why? Why? Why?
You should ask yourselves why.
Power corrupts and Mr. Trump proved himself corrupt *before* he was given autocratic power by y’all.
Do you really think this is a multiplicative situation? No… it’s not! It’s additive. Take one corrupt man and give him maximum power and you only ADD to his corruption!
And ..by extension President Trump supporters, your own.
* They are some of the ugliest motherfuckers I have ever seen in my life.
* They are some of the dumbest motherfuckers ever. Send all of them back to school.