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    1. Numerous-Bike-4951 on

      Theres far more to gain in the center right right now then loss to the center left as economically most center lefts will still feel throw their support behind the Liberals.

      As long as Carney can maintain and stay out of social policy battles for the next year or two as he focuses economically, there’s not too much risk to losing left to gain right for him .

      Pierre atm has far more risk at bleeding heavy from both enda of his support base.

    2. The NDP’s political opportunities will only open up once its internal conflicts and financial woes are sorted out. While I do hope there is a brighter future for the party, I’m just not seeing it right now.

    3. The ideal political balance at this point would be the Liberals being somewhere between the Mulroney Campbell PC’s and Chretien/Martin Liberals to consolidate the centre to centre-right vote while the NDP consolidate the centre to centre-left vote while the CPC and PPC are relegated to third/fourth party status, or to where they were in the Social Credit era etc. I feel like that way more Canadians would get what they want politically.

      The LPC would have to adopt more social democratic policies to remain competitive with the NDP and the NDP would have to adapt more third way policies in terms of trade/market liberalization and balanced fiscal policy to remain competitive with the Liberals while the general discourse would be focused on evidence driven policy etc. (especially since the CPC and Reform/Alliance party before them have really dumbed down the political discourse in the past decade)

    4. Neat_Let923 on

      Here’s a list of the Conservative core values and if the current Liberals agree with them:

      * **Anti-Immigration** – Nope
      * **Anti-Environmental Protection** – Nope
      * **Anti-Regulation** – Nope
      * **Foreign Investment** (traditionally Conservative, PP moved away from that to more align with nationalism) – Nope
      * **Pro-Christian Values** (anti LGBT+, abortion, and so on) – Nope
      * **Anti-Social Welfare** – Nope
      * **Lower Taxes** – Nope, since he’s stated raising taxes will be the last resort but it may be needed
      * —————
      * **Pro-Economic Expansion and Resource Development** – Yes
      * **Pro-Fiscal Responsibility**
      * **Limited government spending** – Yes and No… Again, it’s limiting some things where they can while also expanding spending in other ways. (i.e., not the Trudeau way)
      * **Balanced budgets** – Yes, but properly and intelligently (i.e., not the Harper way)
      * **Trade liberalization** – Yes, though I think no matter what party was in power this would be a goal right now
      * **National Unity and Patriotism** – Yes
      * **Pro-Military Investment** – Yes
      * **Pro-Strong Law and Order** – Unknown… I actually don’t know where Carney stands on this stuff. It really hasn’t been a part of his platform from what I remember and he’s focused right now on so many other things…

      So out of those where I indicated YES, which ones do they think the NDP should put pressure on?

      I feel like the NDP’s arguments right now are entirely focused on the Economic Expansion and Resource Development side of things that the Liberals are trying to do. That’s ONE core value out of all of them… If that’s how they define the Liberals as moving more to the right then I think they have a very skewed idea of what the left and right are…

    5. It’s a huge opportunity for the NDP. Lots of voters aren’t down with prioritising military spending, putting the environment to the side, halting progress on social programs, shrinking government, etc.

      Trudeau you could at least argue he was *trying* to do progressive things.

      Carney’s politics are clearly popular but he has created a huge opening on the left the NDP could turn into significant seat gains.

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