Niedrige Wahlbeteiligung und ein unlauteres Wahlsystem: Wahlen in Großbritannien in der unteren Hälfte der Länder in Europa rangierten auf die untere Hälfte
https://theconversation.com/low-turnout-and-an-unfair-voting-system-uk-elections-ranked-in-the-bottom-half-of-countries-in-europe-260396
Von Shiny-Tie-126
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It’s as though people think Politicians just don’t listen to them and their concerns and so think it’s not worth bothering to vote.
Some version of PR would be great. The problem is the winners never want to implement it.
I’m not sure I care if it is a party list system like in Germany or STV like in Ireland.
The latter is fascinating but takes an eternity to count but either will give much more proportional outcome.
Edit: it’d also shatter the two party system (I know this is kind of happening already but to a much greater extent) so more people could actually vote in line with their political beliefs rather than for a big tent.
We really need to scrap FPTP. Otherwise you’re gonna end up with some proper whacky results if the vote is split between 5 (maybe 6 if Corbyns new party actually happens).
So much is made of winning votes from other parties and “swing” votes etc – and fair enough. But what we need to do is get people who don’t vote, to vote
Must confess I am still partial to MMPR. Allows you to keep local politicians but have PR
Low turnout? Given anyone who wants lower taxation / smaller state has no one credible to vote for, why bother voting?
The voting system is designed to keep two bad parties locked in at the top until they are both absolutely despised and removed from power 20 years after their natural expiry date
I’ll start voting as soon as I don’t have to pick between the lesser cunt
Use this when they say FPTP is still a robust system.
Unfair?!
Let’s go with proportional representation and have 100 governments a century with Reform having 200 seats. Yey…
UK citizens voted for this system. They had a chance to change it but they said no. Most people don’t want democracy. They want their side to win at all costs. Every time the Tory party win an election, the left start protesting the next day demanding they bet kicked out.
FPTP is just pure Stockholm Syndrome.
If it wasn’t for „thats just the way it always is“ there’s no way people would put up with it.
Im 20 and ever since i properly started actually caring about politics (circa 14 so 6 years ago) I physically cannot think off any party that i would actually want in power if i do vote (which is rare) its normally for a candidate with zero chance to win as a fuck off vote.
These days, you’re not voting for the best party, but for the least worst.
We aren’t even a democracy (because FPTP is undemocratic) so this doesn’t shock me at all to be honest.
Not the worst appraisal.
That registration could be higher is almost certainly fair.
Low turnout I think is more a symptom of how disliked all the options were last time round. Turnout alone isnt a good measure of democracy or the Soviet Union would have been the epicentre of democratic legitimacy. I’d be more interested in provision for turnout – eg how accessible is voting. If you could reasonable vote but instead decide to give the whole system two fingers, that’s not the same as you wanted to vote but the nearest polling booth was 30 miles away, in the middle of a roundabout, and only open from 2am to 4am.
The obligatory academic swipe at first past the post I ignored. There are no „good“ voting systems, they all have issues, whether its complexity, cost, representation of extremist views, pre or post election coalition building, accountability of MPs to voters and so on. More a case of pick which pro’s and con’s matter most to you and there’s almost certainly a voting system available for that.
Alot of areas it in pointless voting. My area for example has been Labour since records began. Always has been by a massive majority. So no point voting as you cant change anything. Labour will always win
I wish there was the option for a vote of no confidence on the ballot. Of course, we’d still need a government, but if the no confidence vote won, there could be consequences for the second place party who would become government. Like an earlier next election, maybe… or certain powers are limited in some way.
It’s probably a silly idea, but just some way for people to get across officially how disillusioned and upset they are – aside from spoiling the ballot, which doesn’t do anything.
Mandatory voting in both local and national elections, with a hefty fine if you don’t vote.
I mean this with the utmost of respect to you guys, I love your country, there’s a rwason I came here for uni.
But u want to see a truly broken electoral system?
I’ll tell ya abt my country. We consider 50% turnout an achievement for the ages
Don’t even get me started on the ways the parties chose candidates for lists, the fact that they reversed a change in order to benefit themselves or that we have mayors getting elected with as little as 20% in some cases, abd in some areas turnout equally low.
Your system may not be perfect and require some serious changes, totally agree with that. But it could be worse
A mandatory voting system like in Australia would be a great start
> In its election manifesto, Labour promised to “address the inconsistencies in voter ID rules”, “improve voter registration” and give 16 and 17-year-olds the right to vote in all elections. There needs to be firm action on electoral system change, automatic voter registration, campaign finance reform, voter identification changes and other areas.
Why not make it a mandatory action as a citizen? If someone can vote then they must vote. Failure to vote is a fine, imprisonment or both? Sure this works, not?…