Die Mehrheit der Briten unterstützt Vermögenssteuer auf Super Rich

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/vast-majority-of-brits-back-a-wealth-tax-on-the-super-rich-poll-reveals_uk_686d4447e4b09ee5b9c96033

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    1. Alive-Turnip-3145 on

      _”Majority support taxing others to pay for themselves”_ – who would have guessed?

      Seriously though – we all need to start paying more taxes just to maintain services as they are. With an aging population and failing economy- even that might not be enough.

    2. KungFuSpoon on

      Majority of Brits support other people paying for things. I for one am shocked.

    3. ShondaVanda on

      People have been calling for closing the tax loopholes on big corporations for decades now. no one is surprised it’s finally come to this but I bet the labour party will find a way to side step making the big corporation fair their way and instead target individuals earning way less than what was intended.

    4. Best-Safety-6096 on

      Yes, the majority of people can often be stupid. This is a prime example of it.

      When even Labour economists such as Dan Neidle state that it is a dreadful idea then those in charge should get the message.

      Personally I think it would be hilarious as the fallout would be catastrophic.

    5. Next_Replacement_566 on

      In France and Germany, they have laws restricting the amount of dividends given to shareholders. That’s part of the reason they wanted Brexit.

    6. Not sure if this thread is being brigaded by Thatcherite trolls/bots or if the general public is actually stupid enough to believe that wealth shouldn’t be taxed.

    7. ConfusedQuarks on

      So people want Scandinavian type of welfare but not pay Scandinavian type of taxes and instead propose failed ideas like Wealth taxes?

    8. Lammtarra95 on

      The opinion poll is useless. We need economic growth. You might as well stop people in the street to ask how best to cure cancer.

    9. By the time it gets implemented, super-rich will be anybody with a house. But not people with a string of BTL houses, because they will be able to take advantage of a tax avoidance scheme.

    10. middleofaldi on

      The trouble is that wealthy people can move assets abroad. A land value tax is the only wealth tax that would work without having major side effects

    11. Wondering_Electron on

      The majority of brits are too thick to understand that there is no easy solution to taxing the super rich. Just ask them how in such a way that they won’t be affected themselves and they’ll have no clue.

    12. Psittacula2 on

      In outline alone it seems eminently a sensible proportional idea…

      However, a look at the history of taxation over the centuries:

      * What started as a temporary tax or tax on the rich invariably ended up a tax on everyone permanently before more taxes were added.

      Given the historic track record, I therefore do have unresolved questions concerning this idea and its future?

    13. If you have to work for your money you’re not rich. Yet Labour will find a way to make it an income tax all the same.

    14. I don’t disagree with it, but by wanting a globalised world the left has made this essentially impossible.

      It might’ve worked in the 50s but now? Companies and ultra rich will just leave.

    15. NO NO NO . It’s all because of gran getting an extra fiver benefits. And ehh aye ehh ohh small boats. Don’t forget small boats. Quick look over there. The rich are doing just dandy thank you. The rich have well paid accountants and lawyers. You have well not a leg to stand on . The tax system is not fit for purpose.

    16. haphazard_chore on

      The only realistic tax on wealth is a land tax. Any form of punitive tax on the wealthy will simply result in them leaving.

    17. Fullm3taluk on

      You can’t fucking funnel all the money to 1% of the population for generations and expect everyone to prosper

    18. Me too. Why do we always choose the option to tax those who cannot afford it?

      Get rid of the stupid triple lock too

    19. As much as i support a fair tax system (and it really isn’t fair at this time), i don’t think this wealth tax will work at all and what actually needs to happen is a serious discussion about all forms of tax (not just income tax) and wealth inequality because if this was a game you would need a wipe/reset.

      the wealth tax won’t really work because firstly, if you have 2 people, that’s 20 mil and not 10 mil and secondly. How the hell do you calculate current wealth without employing a million people to audit tax returns etc… Self reporting? It just has far too many flaws unless they get the detail really good.

      People earning income tax / are on PAYE are paying a fair amount (debateable with brackets, 100k tax trap etc..), probably too much if you look at cost of living etc due to the income tax rate not moving with inflation which has dragged millions into it.

      If your super wealthy already your currently just snowballing your wealth. You can have 10 mil sat in a family trust (not touchable by IHT) and if the average stock dividend is 5% you would make 500k a year doing nothing. Your not contributing apart from the capital gains you would pay which is far less than any PAYE worker as a percentage.

      the system is broken and the richest have no intention of fixing it for the average worker because.. why the fuck would they? As they say at the end of the big short (film about the 2008 financial crash).

      „I have a feeling in a few years people are going to be doing what they always do when the economy tanks. They will be blaming immigrants and poor people „

    20. initiali5ed on

      Let’s hope Labour have got the Balls to do it as the Conformers consistently do the opposite.

    21. It must be so much easier to tax the masses. Shame the politicians don’t have a spine.

    22. Tax on super wealthy will be tax on each and every owner in the not so distant future.

      And you will not jump over it.

    23. Whilst I completely understand where people are coming from in their feeling and demand for such an action. It must be said that it never ends at the billionaires and the poor never get the money. Its been tried and there’s a reason we are almost a century into liberal democracy and Wealth taxes have never stuck around.

      We need to start looking at people from abroad who buy it assets in the UK with no real consideration of how to develop it. Economy begins with bits and pieces and these arn’t being offered to the nation at a price affordable to its people due to the competition from the global market.

      The consolidation of individual prosperity should be the goal. Let people make their own wealth, then they wont care about yours. This nation is horrifically unfair to the aspirational youth and innovative individuals, lower business rates, fuel duty and lower energy costs would be a nice start.

      If we are to make the rich do something at least make it a direct contribution to local services and businesses rather than a tax that will get lost in the great blob that is the UK state.

      we need to get away from Market or taxes, its an effective mechanism that includes both instruments that is need to fix the unfairness and restrictions to individual wealth creation that will benefit our communities.

    24. Majority of people want to win the lottery what a ludicrous question to ask

    25. SojournerInThisVale on

      In other news, the majority of Brits don’t understand economics 

    26. OneCheesecake1516 on

      The problem is that if such a policy is implemented the Super rich and corporations will just move their tax liabilities overseas so in the end everyone in the UK will lose out and normal tax payers will shoulder the burden.

      UK Deliberate Tax Defaulters

      https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/publishing-details-of-deliberate-tax-defaulters-pddd/current-list-of-deliberate-tax-defaulters

      Starmer sugar daddy Lord Alli is set to make hundreds of thousands from a tax haven-registered firm – so of course he doesn’t have declare it or pay tax on it.

      Lower income families pay more tax than super rich.

      https://equalitytrust.org.uk/news/press-release/uk-still-taxes-the-poorest-more-than-the-richest/

    27. Academic-Key2 on

      If the billionaires leave they’ll also leave their properties and free up the housing market for regular folks. Let them leave, it was never money that made UK amazing 

    28. Jimmy_h4t99 on

      Take control if how they operate in this country, if they don’t comply push them out, there will always be another company who wants to make willing to step in

    29. BlueMoonCityzen on

      A lot of time, huff and puff being spent on a tax that fundamentally doesn’t work with proof across the globe. I think the super rich need to pay far more tax too but some of the stuff I’m seeing like a ‘private jet tax’ and such, just isn’t going to bring in the money. Not enough people to collect it from.

      How about:

      Higher taxes on dividends

      Higher taxes on property income

      Higher taxes on interest income (with higher nil rate thresholds to compensate for those in the middle)

      An additional additional rate of income tax for income over a silly amount (say 50% on all income over £500k-£1m)

      Changing SDLT/Council Tax to a land value tax that in itself would be a feasible form of wealth tax

      A higher rate of inheritance tax on the highest value estates

      But no, we’ll waste time saying ‘tax the rich’ without any substance behind it. Exhausting.

    30. Rhinofishdog on

      No, majority of Brits don’t want taxes on „Super Rich“ (which we don’t have).

      Majority of Brits think taxes on „Super Rich“ won’t affect them.

    31. Well ya. Majority of brits arent super rich. Democracy should be about voting yourself money not being brainwashed into voting rich people even more.

    32. Watch as the wealth tax will end up being over 100k/house over £1m which is most professionals in London

    33. Zealousideal_Top9939 on

      Genuine question:

      Is there anywhere that a wealth tax has been successful?

    34. lukethenukeshaw on

      Because we have these billionaires money in QE taking money from them and giving it to the government will cause more inflation. We need to burn their money and not spend it !!!

      Inflation is a lose lose game

    35. Define super rich; if you are aiming for people with SIPP over 1 million, then you are mistaken.

    36. Common-Ad6470 on

      It’s just as well for the minority rich that they have the politicians who decide tax policy in their pocket then otherwise who knows where this could end…😳

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