We have to get this out after the job increase announcement two days ago. Can’t keep the positive vibes going too long or else people might stop being rage farmed.
SkepticalMongoose on
This is based on departmental plan forecasts which are notoriously inaccurate. It assumes no new funding, no inflation adjustment, no population-based adjustments, and no renewal of time limited funding.
Everybody familiar with this type of document knows it’s not a reliable tool to make these kinds of predictions.
The headline is alarmist. There is no active plan afoot (not publicized at least) to lay off thousands of ESDC employees.
Godzilla52 on
Thousands actually seems pretty modest factoring in the growth the civil service has seen over the past decade. (around 257,000 in 2015 compared to 357,000 in 2025 etc.) Even cutting 10,000 would be less than 3% of the existing civil service etc. which tends to indicate the cuts are likely targeted rather than just across the board cuts etc.
The projected 6,700 would amount to a reduction of about 1.88% of the total. Granted that’s 18% of ESDC as the article points out, but COVID likely contributed to a swelling of the department’s size between 2019 & 2022 (the department grew from 23,000 to 35-36,000 in those three years etc.)
DJ_JOWZY on
We always are understaffed until we finally hire enough people where government starts to work well. Then folks turn around and say „government is working great, we need to find efficiencies.“
Truth is, we can make up the shortfall of having a well funded public service by increasing our revenue through taxation of wealth, higher marginal income, and capital gains. We don’t need to fire people to increase revenue.
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We have to get this out after the job increase announcement two days ago. Can’t keep the positive vibes going too long or else people might stop being rage farmed.
This is based on departmental plan forecasts which are notoriously inaccurate. It assumes no new funding, no inflation adjustment, no population-based adjustments, and no renewal of time limited funding.
Everybody familiar with this type of document knows it’s not a reliable tool to make these kinds of predictions.
The headline is alarmist. There is no active plan afoot (not publicized at least) to lay off thousands of ESDC employees.
Thousands actually seems pretty modest factoring in the growth the civil service has seen over the past decade. (around 257,000 in 2015 compared to 357,000 in 2025 etc.) Even cutting 10,000 would be less than 3% of the existing civil service etc. which tends to indicate the cuts are likely targeted rather than just across the board cuts etc.
The projected 6,700 would amount to a reduction of about 1.88% of the total. Granted that’s 18% of ESDC as the article points out, but COVID likely contributed to a swelling of the department’s size between 2019 & 2022 (the department grew from 23,000 to 35-36,000 in those three years etc.)
We always are understaffed until we finally hire enough people where government starts to work well. Then folks turn around and say „government is working great, we need to find efficiencies.“
Truth is, we can make up the shortfall of having a well funded public service by increasing our revenue through taxation of wealth, higher marginal income, and capital gains. We don’t need to fire people to increase revenue.