Bottom line is, any soldiers standing against Trump will be marginal at best and probably only the extreme left of the bunch. Most of our military supports the President
TheLamentOfSquidward on
Not really. If soldiers were doing that Trump wouldn’t still be president. Cope article is cope.
CrucioIsMade4Muggles on
This will certainly help the recruitment crisis.
brain_overclocked on
>She’s speaking out as part of a campaign launched by About Face, a veterans’ group which today—July Fourth—is launching a “Right to Refuse” campaign arguing that service members deserve the right to refuse unlawful or immoral orders, in the hope that Congress will pass a law offering stronger protections to service members who do so. Founded by Iraq War veterans concerned about the immorality of that conflict, About Face has in recent years heard from service members with objections to sending weapons to Israel, dismantling DEI within the military, and especially, recently, the prospect of being pawns in Trump’s authoritarian fantasy, whether in the crackdown in Los Angeles or the military parade in Washington, D.C.
>Brittany Ramos DeBarros, organizing director of About Face, is an Afghanistan veteran who once faced court-martial for speaking out against that war while still in uniform. She acknowledges that Congress isn’t going to pass this law quickly enough to deal with the current constitutional crises—if at all—but she sees it as a rallying point for military communities. Families and service members need support in trying to navigate this moment, she says, and many are finding each other and organizing. From her own experience, she knows that the military can make you feel crazy if you disagree with it.
>“So I think it’s profound,” she said, “that people are organically breaking out of that enough to start talking to each other about, ‘I’m really concerned about this. What are you thinking you’re gonna do?’” DeBarros says many are wondering what is in their own best interests—but also what is the most moral choice: Is it better to resign publicly or “better to have more people within the military when that moment comes who are willing to stand up and do something and do the right thing? Which is a complicated question for people to sit with.” On the one hand, service members risk losing their benefits and going to prison if they refuse orders; but if they don’t refuse unlawful orders, she said, many will “live with the moral injury and consequences of carrying out something that they knew was wrong.”
Accurate-Guava-3337 on
They can’t take a stand right now and it’s gonna bitch slap them in the end.
Jgmcsee on
They don’t care. ICE is going to be the military now.
Lkpincognito on
Makes sense why he’s trying to replace them and give ICE a bigger budget than the Marines. His new private army is only loyal to him
GhostMause14 on
Need Show, No Talk
jimicus on
Which is why Trump’s brownshirts won’t be soldiers.
They’ll be ICE.
Kamamura_CZ on
That’s blatantly undemocratic! America voted for fascism (albeit semi-consciously, like a drunk giving his wallet to a prostitute), how dare they oppose the Will of the People! (TM).
Luckily, El Salvador is busy building nice, cozy gulags for the „homegrowns“, as Trump affectionally calls them.
My dear, fluffy homegrowns! Time to replant you to a foreign soil!
**America, the land of unlimited freedom** (not for everyone, but we don’t nitpick, do we…)
darth_helcaraxe_82 on
I believe it when a headline comes out saying that the Marines refuse command to aid ICE. Until then the military ain’t refusing orders from Trump. The day it happens I’ll be happily surprised, yet I wouldn’t hold out hope.
TAC1313 on
Where is this happening? I don’t believe it for a second.
Migrant-With-MK47 on
You mean the same ones who voted for him?
N0N4GRPBF8ZME1NB5KWL on
No, they’re not.
Critically32 on
Former*
This is meaningless.
Leave A Reply
Du musst angemeldet sein, um einen Kommentar abzugeben.
15 Kommentare
Bottom line is, any soldiers standing against Trump will be marginal at best and probably only the extreme left of the bunch. Most of our military supports the President
Not really. If soldiers were doing that Trump wouldn’t still be president. Cope article is cope.
This will certainly help the recruitment crisis.
>She’s speaking out as part of a campaign launched by About Face, a veterans’ group which today—July Fourth—is launching a “Right to Refuse” campaign arguing that service members deserve the right to refuse unlawful or immoral orders, in the hope that Congress will pass a law offering stronger protections to service members who do so. Founded by Iraq War veterans concerned about the immorality of that conflict, About Face has in recent years heard from service members with objections to sending weapons to Israel, dismantling DEI within the military, and especially, recently, the prospect of being pawns in Trump’s authoritarian fantasy, whether in the crackdown in Los Angeles or the military parade in Washington, D.C.
>Brittany Ramos DeBarros, organizing director of About Face, is an Afghanistan veteran who once faced court-martial for speaking out against that war while still in uniform. She acknowledges that Congress isn’t going to pass this law quickly enough to deal with the current constitutional crises—if at all—but she sees it as a rallying point for military communities. Families and service members need support in trying to navigate this moment, she says, and many are finding each other and organizing. From her own experience, she knows that the military can make you feel crazy if you disagree with it.
>“So I think it’s profound,” she said, “that people are organically breaking out of that enough to start talking to each other about, ‘I’m really concerned about this. What are you thinking you’re gonna do?’” DeBarros says many are wondering what is in their own best interests—but also what is the most moral choice: Is it better to resign publicly or “better to have more people within the military when that moment comes who are willing to stand up and do something and do the right thing? Which is a complicated question for people to sit with.” On the one hand, service members risk losing their benefits and going to prison if they refuse orders; but if they don’t refuse unlawful orders, she said, many will “live with the moral injury and consequences of carrying out something that they knew was wrong.”
They can’t take a stand right now and it’s gonna bitch slap them in the end.
They don’t care. ICE is going to be the military now.
Makes sense why he’s trying to replace them and give ICE a bigger budget than the Marines. His new private army is only loyal to him
Need Show, No Talk
Which is why Trump’s brownshirts won’t be soldiers.
They’ll be ICE.
That’s blatantly undemocratic! America voted for fascism (albeit semi-consciously, like a drunk giving his wallet to a prostitute), how dare they oppose the Will of the People! (TM).
Luckily, El Salvador is busy building nice, cozy gulags for the „homegrowns“, as Trump affectionally calls them.
My dear, fluffy homegrowns! Time to replant you to a foreign soil!
**America, the land of unlimited freedom** (not for everyone, but we don’t nitpick, do we…)
I believe it when a headline comes out saying that the Marines refuse command to aid ICE. Until then the military ain’t refusing orders from Trump. The day it happens I’ll be happily surprised, yet I wouldn’t hold out hope.
Where is this happening? I don’t believe it for a second.
You mean the same ones who voted for him?
No, they’re not.
Former*
This is meaningless.