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    2. FoxGranite on

      With something like this I would have issued a mandatory community service working with people and charities of different religions and ethnic backgrounds rather than jail, education is the best thing for people like this and I can guarantee after 15 months in jail his views will be exactly the same. Would’ve probably done the same with Lucy Connolly.

    3. ThatchersDirtyTaint on

      anyone got some insight as to why Lucy Connolly got 31 months and this guy 15 months?

    5. Dazzling_Whereas_183 on

      I do have a problem with this – I would prefer that the prosecution has to draw a much clearer line from “ Individual said X -> people committed violence and were directly inspired by individual saying X “

      For example “ burn down such and such hotel “ then people seeing the Tweedy, quickly sharing it/coordinating with their friends and then going to burn down the hotel.

      That is obviously incitement which led to violence – a clear problem.

    7. xParesh on

      I never used twitter. I always saw it as a place for morons to vent their stupidity and it always puzzled me why police gave is so much attention. Its just another forum like Reddit.

      I’m more concerned about ‚real‘ crimes like, muggings, shoplifting, burglary and harassment of women on the streets to name a few.

      I’d be totally fine with this guys sentencing if all the other ‚real‘ crimes were met with the same level of punishment.

      Sticks and stones and all that.

    8. AnalThermometer on

      The judge here, Jeremy Richardson KC, in another situation gave a [man who produced child pornography ](https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/online-sheffield-pervert-who-preyed-on-childs-vampire-fascination-is-spared-from-prison-3909607)with a 13-year-old a community order instead of jail time. There’s no reason this requires anything more than a suspended sentence or community order, and it appears to be his first offense which usually grants leniency. Plus he pleaded. When tweets are taken more seriously than other crimes, guys like this frankly feel like sacrificial lambs to try and put a lid on the UK’s current political tension.

    9. Apprehensiv3Eye on

      >Go on Rotherham, burn any hotels [with asylum seekers]

      He didn’t say that. As per the [Guardian article](https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/jul/02/surrey-joseph-haythorne-jailed-social-media-post-x-southport-murders), he said

      >Go on Rotherham. Burn any hotels with them scruffy bastards in it

      Obviously we all know he was referring to asylum seekers given the context, but he didn’t technically refer to asylum seekers directly, so it seems weird that the BBC would imply he did.

    10. Cumulus-Crafts on

      Me: I want Cillian Murphy

      Parent: We have Cillian Murphy at home

      Cillian Murphy at home:

    11. Evening_Job_9332 on

      Any news on the people holding signs asking for women to be hanged? They can’t be far behind right?

    13. roddz on

      Locking these people up doesn’t fix them if anything it just radicalises them further, give them a community service order or something instead.

    14. South-Stand on

      1. I think this used Tory legislation (2015 PACE Act?). 2. Bernie Spofforth should be in jail next to Lucy Connolly.

    15. AreYouNormal1 on

      Freedom of speech prople: if I stood outside your house with a banner and a loudhailer shouting that everyone that lived in your house was a paedophile, would you champion my right to free speech, or kick my teeth in/call the police/sue me for slander?

      Free speech and consequence free speech are not the same thing.

    16. francisdavey on

      Sources: so others don’t have to look (some have asked).

      Joseph Haythorne was sentenced for „publishing material intended to stir up racial hatred“. I assume contrary to section 19 of the Public Order Act 1986 [https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64/section/19](https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64/section/19)

      Sentencing guide: [https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/racial-hatred-offences-hatred-against-persons-on-religious-grounds-or-grounds-of-sexual-orientation/](https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/racial-hatred-offences-hatred-against-persons-on-religious-grounds-or-grounds-of-sexual-orientation/)

      For reference, Lucy Connolly was charged under the same section. Her sentencing remarks explain her sentence: [https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/R-v-Lucy-Connolly.pdf](https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/R-v-Lucy-Connolly.pdf) – she was senteced to 31 months.

      As I understand the BBC report, we won’t get full reasons until next week, but the judge wanted to make sure that the defendant did not have to wait any longer.

      Why was his lower? Without the full breakdown, I don’t know, but from the report it seems that he:

      „He realised within that short lapse of time how wrong, damaging and bad those words were,“ Ms Brasoveanu told the court.

      „His regret and remorse are echoed by the fact that he’s pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity.“

      Whereas in Lucy Connolly’s case we have:

      „Similarly whilst I accept you regret your actions and I have been referred to messages in which you say that you disagree with racism and violence, it is clear from the evidence of your own words in the days following your actions, what you said to the police and what you said to the probation officer that you have little insight into, or acceptance of, your actions.“

      There also seems to have been mental health problems in the man’s case which were not shown to exist in Lucy’s case. The much shorter time and lesser distribution may be further factors.

    17. hfFvx4G6xU4ZEgzhSM9g on

      What happened to the Labour MP who gave a speech about the need to cut the rioters‘ throats? Is he in prison yet? I bet everything I own that he isn’t.

    18. wildcharmander1992 on

      To the people who say „the woke left have gone to far , arresting people for a tweet/Facebook post“

      If this was a Muslim man saying „burn the churches“

      You’d demand his head on a pike and for counter terrorism teams to step in

      It’s not that hard. If you’re encouraging or suggesting violence or criminal activity in any form you deserve punished for it

    19. Samuel71900 on

      Wonder if the same will happen to kneecap
      If not , something must be two tier

    20. Old_Operation_5116 on

      OUTRAGEOUS, it’s a totalitarian state! A man should be able to say he wants to burn down his local mosque without consequence!

      What a backwards world we live in where this isn’t allowed!

    21. Asuddenwalrus on

      Something wrong with everyone in the comments thinking this is a normal and completely fine thing to happen when literally rapists and pedophiles get less time, you could commit manslaughter and get this amount of time.

      Utter nonsense.

    22. Alternative-Bird-894 on

      But no consequences for kneecap? Anyone who denies two tier justice in this country is either blind or intentionally dishonest.

      For reference, I don’t think anyone should be put in prison for speech, especially not when violent criminals and rapists walk free, but the difference in treatment is stark. Maybe a suspended sentence, a social media ban, or a fine, but prison is ridiculous, especially when they complain about there not being enough prison space and start releasing dangerous individuals into society.

    23. Viviaana on

      And yet those men who live streamed themselves raping a 15 year old didn’t get jailed, I’m fine with punishing people who try to invite violence but is this really worse than gang rape!??

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