They will say anything they want since words mean nothing.
Ok_Mixture4917 on
This country has been a joke my entire adult life, but never more than now. Holy shit.
philphan25 on
So Florida is going to be stuck with the bill and DeSantis will smile and go „I’m great“
snowlion000 on
If this facility belongs to the state of Florida then legal action be taken against the state?
GhostRappa95 on
They know this concentration camp will destroy what’s left of Florida’s economy and are trying to leave DeSantis holding the bag.
Responsible-Room-645 on
Even the Nazis weren’t stupid enough to have Hitler visit a concentration camp and have the media there.
enters_and_leaves on
Sounds like someone with a brain finally relayed how terrible of an idea this is to the appropriate people. That can only mean one thing; termination paperwork is currently being drawn up for that person.
Sufficient-Wish2446 on
Except that Trump and Noem both visited on the opening day kickoff giving the whole brand new United States Federal Concentration Camp Florida their approval. The fact that they are calling it Alcatraz signifies that it is comparable to Federal Prison Alcatraz.
AcanthisittaNo6653 on
Trump was there to mark his territory.
emileLaroche on
This is the formula:
1. Cook up some horrible thing.
2. Do the horrible thing.
3. Promote the horrible thing while shrieking that deranged Latino cannibals are eating themselves while tightly shackled on planes.
4. Fuck up the horrible thing completely because, by the way, it’s not just horrible but completely and floridly insane and totally unworkable.
5. Tell everyone you’ve never heard of the horrible thing because you’re already bored with it and spending all your energy thinking up the next horrible thing.
6. Repeat as often and as quickly as possible so people can’t keep up with the crazy end you can ratchet up the horribleness until it would make Goebbels bush.
Acceptable-Bus-2017 on
TACO as usual
AutomateAway on
this is just hand waving in front of a judge and completely bullshit, there’s no way this happens without Trump’s go ahead
restore_democracy on
Impeach DeSantis.
Ordinary_Pressure on
Everything about it is illegal. During a hurricane all 5,000 people would have to be moved away or they will drown. Desantis is having his buddy’s private for-profit companies build and manage it with no bid contracts and he is keeping all the contracts illegally hidden.
This thing costs $400 million a year and all of that is going to for-profit companies as a scam.
They built the cheapest prison of all time, but some how it costs $80,000 a year per bed. Each bed could have its own 1:1 prison guard at that price.
Everything about this is a scam and the only reason DHS would back away is they know bad information is about to be released of all the illegal activity.
Jayrrock on
More theater. And no popcorn.
trusttheseance on
I think Gator Gitmo just rolls off the tongue so much better.
UnexpectedAnomaly on
Oh did DHS finally figured out they’re going to get tried for crimes against humanity?
Fallen_Jalter on
Did somebody tell them one bad storm, it’ll be wiped from existence?
noudcline on
This trash heap cost $450m?! Doubt… I wanna see those receipts.
jgoble15 on
For any who read this article, it sounds more like the DHS aren’t taking responsibility for it, but that it’s still operational and moving forward.
I405CA on
DeSantis is a moron for forgetting this basic truism from Michael Wolff:
*Trump, who is lazy, lets other people be in charge — until they’re perceived as being in charge. Then they’re no longer in charge*
First rule of the TACO trade: Those who try to share the spotlight with Trump will get shoved out of the way so that they can’t. Trump always insists on coming first.
In any case, DeSantis received campaign donations from at least one of the contractors. So he owns the Gator Grift, perhaps more than he had wanted:
>**IRG Global, a company formed in February as an offshoot of ARS Global Emergency Management**, received a $19.6 million contract from Florida in mid-June to fly a plane load of refugees from Israel to Tampa, public records show. **IRG Global also has, so far, accepted a $1.1 million contract for support in setting up the new detention center**, a contract with the state said.
>IRG Global officials could not be reached for comment. **The company’s website shows it has no expertise in designing prisons or detainment facilities. It is a company geared toward disaster response.**
The parent company ARSGEM has a less than stellar history. From 2024:
>The continuing saga of the Houston-based plaintiffs’ law firm of McClenny Moseley & Associates, suspended and sanctioned for flooding courts with erroneous lawsuits against property insurers in Louisiana, has taken a new political twist in recent days. It also has highlighted an unexpected result of the 2022 law that ended assignments of insurance benefits in Florida.
>**ARS Global, a 60-year-old restoration and emergency management company** that was once connected to the McClenny law firm, **disputed a report published last week by the Orlando Sentinel newspaper. The article said that ARS has been paid as much as $45 million by the state of Florida after ARS donated more than $99,000 to Gov. Ron DeSantis’ reelection campaign.**
>The millions of dollars were for some disaster recovery services but also to transport undocumented migrant workers to Democratic-leaning parts of the country, along with evacuation flights for Israelis fleeing the Hamas war, the Sentinel reported. **The article quotes government watchdogs saying the state funding to ARS, despite its link to the McClenny firm and other legal questions, smacks of a “pay to play” scheme.**
Alligator Auschwitz is great when Trump needs a headline, but not so good when you’re in front a judge having to justify it.
sack-o-matic on
They’re not distancing themselves from it they’re just claiming that they’re not paying to build it because they’re reimbursing FL for it. Read the words they use.
teedeeguantru on
That 450 million came out of Florida FEMA funds? When they run out during of money during hurricane season, they can all go live there, then.
Oceanbreeze871 on
Trump really hates DeSantis
“In a court filing Thursday responding to a lawsuit from environmental groups, the DHS claimed that it had “not implemented, authorized, directed or funded” the construction of the new ICE detention center made up of tents on a defunct airstrip in Miami-Dade County.
“Florida is constructing and operating the facility using state funds on state lands under state emergency authority and a preexisting general delegation of federal authority to implement immigration functions,” the filing said. “
ChooChooBananaTrain on
“Section 287 (g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act so that “any decision to detain aliens … would be Florida’s decision, not DHS’s,” according to Politico’s Gary Fineout. A majority of states have such an agreement with ICE, which allows immigration officers to collaborate with state and local officials.”
– so if the above is true, then Democratic states can choose/instruct ICE not to detain aliens and Trump can do nothing? You see, this is the issue they want their cake and to eat it too.
They want to say “we built this detention facility” and when the rooster comes home to roost, they deny it and it becomes floridas problem.
This is where the rest of the states are dumb. I would be looking at this statement as a Dem and taking it at face value. The only way to beat these idiots is to play their game.
“Oh, it’s for the states to decide?”, in that case stop ICE from detaining people in your states.
styeco on
Sure, they know full well of the atrocities that will be going on there once the press is gone and the doors are closed. Distancing yourselves from the coming concentrations camps early, smart.
PosterAnt on
I wonder how that building will be after a hurricane comes through
mrcanard on
BTW, the new concentration camp in Florida that is expected to cost around $450 million annually, with funding primarily coming from FEMA reimbursements.
OkTouch5699 on
So Western NC doesn’t get the Fema money offered, but plan to give Florida 450 million (or did plan) of Fima money to build a concentration camp. Everyday I wake up, hoping it makes sense, and I just can’t. I feel like I’m stuck in a horrible nightmare that I can’t wake up from.
thingsorfreedom on
This is a familiar pattern They want the headlines. In court they deny all responsibility.
bjdevar25 on
So, no money in FEMA for disaster relief, but $450 million for a concentration camp? Think about this Floridians when the hurricanes arrive.
Mode_Historical on
They’re realizing that rainy season started in june and all the access roads and service roads will be underwater. HURRICANE season is worst between September 15th and 30th, when hurricanes are more active.
This was a bad idea before they started. DeSantis saw an opportunity to distract from the $10million he and his wife embezzled for the Florida Republicans.
Mode_Historical on
Welcome to Florida, It’s not the heat! ITS THE STUPIDITY!
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They will say anything they want since words mean nothing.
This country has been a joke my entire adult life, but never more than now. Holy shit.
So Florida is going to be stuck with the bill and DeSantis will smile and go „I’m great“
If this facility belongs to the state of Florida then legal action be taken against the state?
They know this concentration camp will destroy what’s left of Florida’s economy and are trying to leave DeSantis holding the bag.
Even the Nazis weren’t stupid enough to have Hitler visit a concentration camp and have the media there.
Sounds like someone with a brain finally relayed how terrible of an idea this is to the appropriate people. That can only mean one thing; termination paperwork is currently being drawn up for that person.
Except that Trump and Noem both visited on the opening day kickoff giving the whole brand new United States Federal Concentration Camp Florida their approval. The fact that they are calling it Alcatraz signifies that it is comparable to Federal Prison Alcatraz.
Trump was there to mark his territory.
This is the formula:
1. Cook up some horrible thing.
2. Do the horrible thing.
3. Promote the horrible thing while shrieking that deranged Latino cannibals are eating themselves while tightly shackled on planes.
4. Fuck up the horrible thing completely because, by the way, it’s not just horrible but completely and floridly insane and totally unworkable.
5. Tell everyone you’ve never heard of the horrible thing because you’re already bored with it and spending all your energy thinking up the next horrible thing.
6. Repeat as often and as quickly as possible so people can’t keep up with the crazy end you can ratchet up the horribleness until it would make Goebbels bush.
TACO as usual
this is just hand waving in front of a judge and completely bullshit, there’s no way this happens without Trump’s go ahead
Impeach DeSantis.
Everything about it is illegal. During a hurricane all 5,000 people would have to be moved away or they will drown. Desantis is having his buddy’s private for-profit companies build and manage it with no bid contracts and he is keeping all the contracts illegally hidden.
This thing costs $400 million a year and all of that is going to for-profit companies as a scam.
They built the cheapest prison of all time, but some how it costs $80,000 a year per bed. Each bed could have its own 1:1 prison guard at that price.
Everything about this is a scam and the only reason DHS would back away is they know bad information is about to be released of all the illegal activity.
More theater. And no popcorn.
I think Gator Gitmo just rolls off the tongue so much better.
Oh did DHS finally figured out they’re going to get tried for crimes against humanity?
Did somebody tell them one bad storm, it’ll be wiped from existence?
This trash heap cost $450m?! Doubt… I wanna see those receipts.
For any who read this article, it sounds more like the DHS aren’t taking responsibility for it, but that it’s still operational and moving forward.
DeSantis is a moron for forgetting this basic truism from Michael Wolff:
*Trump, who is lazy, lets other people be in charge — until they’re perceived as being in charge. Then they’re no longer in charge*
First rule of the TACO trade: Those who try to share the spotlight with Trump will get shoved out of the way so that they can’t. Trump always insists on coming first.
In any case, DeSantis received campaign donations from at least one of the contractors. So he owns the Gator Grift, perhaps more than he had wanted:
>**IRG Global, a company formed in February as an offshoot of ARS Global Emergency Management**, received a $19.6 million contract from Florida in mid-June to fly a plane load of refugees from Israel to Tampa, public records show. **IRG Global also has, so far, accepted a $1.1 million contract for support in setting up the new detention center**, a contract with the state said.
>IRG Global officials could not be reached for comment. **The company’s website shows it has no expertise in designing prisons or detainment facilities. It is a company geared toward disaster response.**
>[https://www.gulfshorebusiness.com/alligator-alcatraz-taxpayer-funding/](https://www.gulfshorebusiness.com/alligator-alcatraz-taxpayer-funding/)
The parent company ARSGEM has a less than stellar history. From 2024:
>The continuing saga of the Houston-based plaintiffs’ law firm of McClenny Moseley & Associates, suspended and sanctioned for flooding courts with erroneous lawsuits against property insurers in Louisiana, has taken a new political twist in recent days. It also has highlighted an unexpected result of the 2022 law that ended assignments of insurance benefits in Florida.
>**ARS Global, a 60-year-old restoration and emergency management company** that was once connected to the McClenny law firm, **disputed a report published last week by the Orlando Sentinel newspaper. The article said that ARS has been paid as much as $45 million by the state of Florida after ARS donated more than $99,000 to Gov. Ron DeSantis’ reelection campaign.**
>The millions of dollars were for some disaster recovery services but also to transport undocumented migrant workers to Democratic-leaning parts of the country, along with evacuation flights for Israelis fleeing the Hamas war, the Sentinel reported. **The article quotes government watchdogs saying the state funding to ARS, despite its link to the McClenny firm and other legal questions, smacks of a “pay to play” scheme.**
>[https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/southeast/2024/02/27/762336.htm](https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/southeast/2024/02/27/762336.htm)
Looks like Alligator Tacos tonight
Alligator Auschwitz is great when Trump needs a headline, but not so good when you’re in front a judge having to justify it.
They’re not distancing themselves from it they’re just claiming that they’re not paying to build it because they’re reimbursing FL for it. Read the words they use.
That 450 million came out of Florida FEMA funds? When they run out during of money during hurricane season, they can all go live there, then.
Trump really hates DeSantis
“In a court filing Thursday responding to a lawsuit from environmental groups, the DHS claimed that it had “not implemented, authorized, directed or funded” the construction of the new ICE detention center made up of tents on a defunct airstrip in Miami-Dade County.
“Florida is constructing and operating the facility using state funds on state lands under state emergency authority and a preexisting general delegation of federal authority to implement immigration functions,” the filing said. “
“Section 287 (g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act so that “any decision to detain aliens … would be Florida’s decision, not DHS’s,” according to Politico’s Gary Fineout. A majority of states have such an agreement with ICE, which allows immigration officers to collaborate with state and local officials.”
– so if the above is true, then Democratic states can choose/instruct ICE not to detain aliens and Trump can do nothing? You see, this is the issue they want their cake and to eat it too.
They want to say “we built this detention facility” and when the rooster comes home to roost, they deny it and it becomes floridas problem.
This is where the rest of the states are dumb. I would be looking at this statement as a Dem and taking it at face value. The only way to beat these idiots is to play their game.
“Oh, it’s for the states to decide?”, in that case stop ICE from detaining people in your states.
Sure, they know full well of the atrocities that will be going on there once the press is gone and the doors are closed. Distancing yourselves from the coming concentrations camps early, smart.
I wonder how that building will be after a hurricane comes through
BTW, the new concentration camp in Florida that is expected to cost around $450 million annually, with funding primarily coming from FEMA reimbursements.
So Western NC doesn’t get the Fema money offered, but plan to give Florida 450 million (or did plan) of Fima money to build a concentration camp. Everyday I wake up, hoping it makes sense, and I just can’t. I feel like I’m stuck in a horrible nightmare that I can’t wake up from.
This is a familiar pattern They want the headlines. In court they deny all responsibility.
So, no money in FEMA for disaster relief, but $450 million for a concentration camp? Think about this Floridians when the hurricanes arrive.
They’re realizing that rainy season started in june and all the access roads and service roads will be underwater. HURRICANE season is worst between September 15th and 30th, when hurricanes are more active.
This was a bad idea before they started. DeSantis saw an opportunity to distract from the $10million he and his wife embezzled for the Florida Republicans.
Welcome to Florida, It’s not the heat! ITS THE STUPIDITY!