Sometimes being PM you have to do two things at once.
andrew0256 on
Starmer is the personification of a middle class lefty. He has progressive instincts but not the lived experience. Neither does the chancellor. Both he and Ms Reeves would do well to sit down with Angela Rayner without parasitic advisors in the room and hear about life on the edge from someone who knows.
I get some reform of the benefit system is necessary, but as with the WFA, and child allowances, when they get round to it, they need to properly understand what these things mean for end users. Only then should ideas be shared with MPs for discussion before announcing anything.
smegabass on
Starmer just isn’t much of a leader. He is a living example of the Peter principle.
He would be a great number 1 but never the Prime.
NadalaMOTE on
Or maybe it’s because the policy is wank and everyone knows it.
haphazard_chore on
Like others have said he’s like a windsock, weak and simply changes course when the wind blows.
WGSMA on
Sorry, but your Sec of State and Whips are there to do that for you. Why didn’t they?
Silly_Triker on
That’s because he’s fallen in the same trap that Boris Johnson did. He’s playing the part of Prime Minister for the media, rather than actually being the Prime Minister of Parliament. Once you notice this, you realise his downfall is inevitable.
He’s always been weak domestically, and on foreign affairs he has extremely easy media wins by simply mentioning Ukraine, or being pro-Israel, or pretending to be nice for Trump and the domestic and international media love him for it and labels everything he does as a diplomatic masterstroke.
Everybody wants to be Churchill. Our media is begging for it. For a country that has nothing to cheer about except the days of a very long bygone era. There is this national obsession with “playing the part” without putting in the graft. Even then, Churchill was only good as a wartime leader and awful in almost every other way.
xParesh on
Of course he did.
Let’s hope PM is back in charge and his MPs haven’t got a unhealthy taste of his blood.
beIIe-and-sebastian on
Oh, maybe you shouldn’t have called your MP’s ’noises off‘ and claimed the ability to ‚read the room‘ whilst at the G7.
Nima-night on
Yes following trump in an ideological war against the poorest in society is not a good look it works in America but not in England and will get you hated by most normal people in society.
Do what the English people want and asked their MPs for not what your new American felon buddy wants you to do starmer try and not be a total SIR and recognise what the comonners want in the UK.insted of corporations
GayWolfey on
Reeves will lose her job over this. It’s his only play left other than tax rises
512134 on
Exactly what the electorate has been begging the government not to do
Cognitive_Offload on
The UK needs a real socialist party, and like the US, Britain needs electoral reform and to get past a predominantly 2 party system.
wkavinsky on
No, you lost grip of it, because it is so antithetical to what the Labour Party stands for, and unlike, and the sycophants surrounding you and Reeves, a lot of the more common members of parliament still stand for those „traditional Labour values“.
No doubt all those who rebelled against you on this will be deselected at the next election, but for now, they are **doing their jobs**.
ThatGuyMaulicious on
Isn’t that what a cabinet is for? Problem is Labour right now believe in nothing. There’s no united vision most of the stuff Keir Starmer is doing right now he doesn’t truly believe in. So if you don’t believe in something then how are you going to achieve the best outcome for that belief? He resorted to someone telling him what a woman is, if the grooming gang issue is indeed an issue, lost all political power over his own party over reforms that weren’t explicitly in the election and so Labour MPs would’ve been going in thinking „yeah we’ll protect all the vulnerable.“ When the leadership had other plans.
He keeps on going on about difficult decisions but hasn’t actually done any and in the process of these supposed „difficult“ decisions he’s created a black hole separate from the ones the Tories apparently created, sent borrowing to fucking Mars and is as strong as a leaf in a gust of wind. There’s just no spine to him.
Draeiou on
yea he’s concentrating on other countries instead of his own and speaking rhetorics about going to war for other countries while his is in crisis
jonthebrit38a on
I think it’s really fair enough. Not a huge fan but they listened. Call it a u turn as essentially it’s good for everyone. Take a breath and look at this properly.
G_Morgan on
I suppose he cannot say „Starmer doesn’t know which voting block he’s actually trying to court“.
TheChattyRat on
Obviously suboptimal but it’s rare a politician takes responsibility at all nowadays.
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Sometimes being PM you have to do two things at once.
Starmer is the personification of a middle class lefty. He has progressive instincts but not the lived experience. Neither does the chancellor. Both he and Ms Reeves would do well to sit down with Angela Rayner without parasitic advisors in the room and hear about life on the edge from someone who knows.
I get some reform of the benefit system is necessary, but as with the WFA, and child allowances, when they get round to it, they need to properly understand what these things mean for end users. Only then should ideas be shared with MPs for discussion before announcing anything.
Starmer just isn’t much of a leader. He is a living example of the Peter principle.
He would be a great number 1 but never the Prime.
Or maybe it’s because the policy is wank and everyone knows it.
Like others have said he’s like a windsock, weak and simply changes course when the wind blows.
Sorry, but your Sec of State and Whips are there to do that for you. Why didn’t they?
That’s because he’s fallen in the same trap that Boris Johnson did. He’s playing the part of Prime Minister for the media, rather than actually being the Prime Minister of Parliament. Once you notice this, you realise his downfall is inevitable.
He’s always been weak domestically, and on foreign affairs he has extremely easy media wins by simply mentioning Ukraine, or being pro-Israel, or pretending to be nice for Trump and the domestic and international media love him for it and labels everything he does as a diplomatic masterstroke.
Everybody wants to be Churchill. Our media is begging for it. For a country that has nothing to cheer about except the days of a very long bygone era. There is this national obsession with “playing the part” without putting in the graft. Even then, Churchill was only good as a wartime leader and awful in almost every other way.
Of course he did.
Let’s hope PM is back in charge and his MPs haven’t got a unhealthy taste of his blood.
Oh, maybe you shouldn’t have called your MP’s ’noises off‘ and claimed the ability to ‚read the room‘ whilst at the G7.
Yes following trump in an ideological war against the poorest in society is not a good look it works in America but not in England and will get you hated by most normal people in society.
Do what the English people want and asked their MPs for not what your new American felon buddy wants you to do starmer try and not be a total SIR and recognise what the comonners want in the UK.insted of corporations
Reeves will lose her job over this. It’s his only play left other than tax rises
Exactly what the electorate has been begging the government not to do
The UK needs a real socialist party, and like the US, Britain needs electoral reform and to get past a predominantly 2 party system.
No, you lost grip of it, because it is so antithetical to what the Labour Party stands for, and unlike, and the sycophants surrounding you and Reeves, a lot of the more common members of parliament still stand for those „traditional Labour values“.
No doubt all those who rebelled against you on this will be deselected at the next election, but for now, they are **doing their jobs**.
Isn’t that what a cabinet is for? Problem is Labour right now believe in nothing. There’s no united vision most of the stuff Keir Starmer is doing right now he doesn’t truly believe in. So if you don’t believe in something then how are you going to achieve the best outcome for that belief? He resorted to someone telling him what a woman is, if the grooming gang issue is indeed an issue, lost all political power over his own party over reforms that weren’t explicitly in the election and so Labour MPs would’ve been going in thinking „yeah we’ll protect all the vulnerable.“ When the leadership had other plans.
He keeps on going on about difficult decisions but hasn’t actually done any and in the process of these supposed „difficult“ decisions he’s created a black hole separate from the ones the Tories apparently created, sent borrowing to fucking Mars and is as strong as a leaf in a gust of wind. There’s just no spine to him.
yea he’s concentrating on other countries instead of his own and speaking rhetorics about going to war for other countries while his is in crisis
I think it’s really fair enough. Not a huge fan but they listened. Call it a u turn as essentially it’s good for everyone. Take a breath and look at this properly.
I suppose he cannot say „Starmer doesn’t know which voting block he’s actually trying to court“.
Obviously suboptimal but it’s rare a politician takes responsibility at all nowadays.