What does an early leaver mean? Do they not finish primary school? Secondary? Uni?
LittlePiggy20 on
Tradesmen, probably. Just from what I know anyway.
LilleDjevel on
Because the shcool system is shit and punishes people who fall behind or out of it instead of catching them and helping them get back on track.
And they just keep adding more and more rules to fuck over people who are on the way out already.
Teachers are also not really at fault here as they just keep getting bullshit they need to do piled on from the goverment instead of room to actually focus on teaching (teacher I know spendt more time last year writing reports than actual class related stuff, for some strange reason she’s burned out and want a new job).
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Optimal_Mouse_7148 on
Thing is… I have lived in many countries and in certain places you have to have a university degree or two to make any kind of money.
While in Norway you can makeextremely good money on almost any job. So a lot of people dont feel they need to get very educated. Like my brother who runs his own welding company.
And another factor is… Norway often comes out looking bad on a lot of international surveys like these because Norway is a very well organised country with a lot of available statistics. While other countries may not have equally accurate statistics and therefore end up looking great… Due to lacking information.
Impressive_Lime_6973 on
You don’t need a degree here to be rich
albraa_mazen on
Maybe there is no financial motivation to carry on learning. If a high school graduate income is the same as a bachelor’s after taxes, Y should you carry on learning?
The main reasons given are: bullying, lack of support at school, loneliness, illness, lack of motivation, lack of apprenticeship places, lack of support at home, and general problems with well-being.
Past_Consequence_536 on
I earn more with no formal education beyond the basics then a friend in a management position in my kommune for instance. University degrees are mostly memes and a heavy debt burden with little influence on your earning ability outside very narrow specialized fields.
ztunelover on
Just out of curiousity is this counting as permanent out or people that defer post secondary learning at a later age? Because correct me if I’m wrong do a significant number of people do military service then do post secondary education a little later?
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What does an early leaver mean? Do they not finish primary school? Secondary? Uni?
Tradesmen, probably. Just from what I know anyway.
Because the shcool system is shit and punishes people who fall behind or out of it instead of catching them and helping them get back on track.
And they just keep adding more and more rules to fuck over people who are on the way out already.
Teachers are also not really at fault here as they just keep getting bullshit they need to do piled on from the goverment instead of room to actually focus on teaching (teacher I know spendt more time last year writing reports than actual class related stuff, for some strange reason she’s burned out and want a new job).
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Thing is… I have lived in many countries and in certain places you have to have a university degree or two to make any kind of money.
While in Norway you can makeextremely good money on almost any job. So a lot of people dont feel they need to get very educated. Like my brother who runs his own welding company.
And another factor is… Norway often comes out looking bad on a lot of international surveys like these because Norway is a very well organised country with a lot of available statistics. While other countries may not have equally accurate statistics and therefore end up looking great… Due to lacking information.
You don’t need a degree here to be rich
Maybe there is no financial motivation to carry on learning. If a high school graduate income is the same as a bachelor’s after taxes, Y should you carry on learning?
Here’s an article (in Norwegian) on why young people drop out of upper secondary school (16-19, videregående), which isn’t compulsory. https://www.nrk.no/vestfoldogtelemark/xl/derfor-valgte-ungdommene-a-slutte-pa-videregaende-skole-1.15145971
The main reasons given are: bullying, lack of support at school, loneliness, illness, lack of motivation, lack of apprenticeship places, lack of support at home, and general problems with well-being.
I earn more with no formal education beyond the basics then a friend in a management position in my kommune for instance. University degrees are mostly memes and a heavy debt burden with little influence on your earning ability outside very narrow specialized fields.
Just out of curiousity is this counting as permanent out or people that defer post secondary learning at a later age? Because correct me if I’m wrong do a significant number of people do military service then do post secondary education a little later?